What happened to all the older workers?

What happened to all the older workers?

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Olivera

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7,218 posts

240 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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It occurred to me when I was in the office last week (IT/finance) that the number of working professionals younger than me (44) appears to vastly exceed those older than me. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 10:1 ratio of younger to older. The number of workers aged 50+ probably dwindles even more.

So, what happened to all of the older workers, e.g. the entire professional cohort that were older than me when I started working life ~20-25 years ago? Is this the 'missing worker' conundrum observed since Covid, with increasing numbers of older professionals retiring earlier, going part time, or switching career to something else entirely? If so I'm surprised at how pronounced it appears to be, albeit in my entirely anecdotal case.

Has anyone else mused on this?

JuanCarlosFandango

7,836 posts

72 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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I've noticed the same, they really do thin out. No explanation as such. Maybe they go contracting/consulting if in engineering and IT? Set up their own firms? I know a lot of people brought forward retirement or a change of career during covid but it can't be everyone my age and up!

Mr Pointy

11,318 posts

160 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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We've all filled our boots & retired.

Mammasaid

3,899 posts

98 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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Or WFH in the garden soaking up the rays...

otolith

56,444 posts

205 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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Smaller part of the working population, and a higher rate of non-employment.

cml24

1,416 posts

148 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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Only appears to be a very slight dip in the 50 to 64 bracket covid onwards.

Although they have always been a smaller percentage at work than the younger two groups.

Maybe very sector dependant and potentially more part time and WFH in that age bracket as they are more likely to be finically secure (speculating)

cml24

1,416 posts

148 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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Also, is your perception changing?

When you started work, everyone was in the 'old bracket'...

Olivera

Original Poster:

7,218 posts

240 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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otolith said:


Smaller part of the working population, and a higher rate of non-employment.
That graph is what I'd expect, slightly more younger workers than older (compared to myself). Again anecdotally this isn't what I see in a professional and well paid environment, that is numbers rapidly diminish, especially 50+.

GT3Manthey

4,554 posts

50 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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Quite a few bolted after covid hit having worked out they hated being in an office and enjoyed their new found freedom.

otolith

56,444 posts

205 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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Olivera said:
That graph is what I'd expect, slightly more younger workers than older (compared to myself). Again anecdotally this isn't what I see in a professional and well paid environment, that is numbers rapidly diminish, especially 50+.
You've got a 5:4 ratio between people younger than you to people older than you, and you then have a lower proportion of the older people in work. If you're in a well paid profession, the opportunity to retire early is greater. Could also be that your workplace doesn't pay senior people as competitively as it pays junior people, so they're buggering off to competitors as they get older - or that your corporate structure just doesn't have space for career progression of senior staff.

bigandclever

13,823 posts

239 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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If you believe Age UK (and why wouldn't you) there are 3.5million 'economically inactive' people aged between 50 and 64. Of those, 1.3million are sick and 0.5million are "caring for family and home".

rallye101

1,967 posts

198 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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They all work for me and get a nosebleed if asked to work more than x2 days a week, less after school holidays when flights are cheap...I'm just jealous!!

GiantCardboardPlato

4,308 posts

22 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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otolith said:


Smaller part of the working population, and a higher rate of non-employment.
Why are there so many fewer people over 60?
This smells like a cover up to me.
Is the government kidnapping old people and keeping them camps somewhere

GiantCardboardPlato

4,308 posts

22 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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Maybe your employer/organisation has an age discrimination problem?

98elise

26,761 posts

162 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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cml24 said:
Also, is your perception changing?

When you started work, everyone was in the 'old bracket'...
Yup. When you're 20, everyone over 30 is old, and everyone over 50 is a fossil.

Edited by 98elise on Monday 5th June 14:12

98elise

26,761 posts

162 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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GT3Manthey said:
Quite a few bolted after covid hit having worked out they hated being in an office and enjoyed their new found freedom.
For me it was IR35. I would be paying a lot more tax than someone on PAYE so decided it was time to stop handing the government the majority of my earnings.

I'm now a drain on society smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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Good question, I am 49, work in IT and I am the oldest person in my office. I am really hoping I can afford to retire at 60, but I actually wonder if I will even have a job by then.

I have no idea where they have all gone, I got talking to a guy on a plane trip last year who used to work in IT and he decided to retire at 45. I worked with an older VB6 contractor back in around 2008 who would have been mid 50s at the time. He said this was his last contract and that he was going to retire now as he didn't want to learn anything new.

I can only assume one of the following 3 scenarios happen

1)They hate their jobs, do the maths and realise that they can retire early
2)They get made redundant, can't find another job and decide to retire
3)They get made redundant, can't find another job and end up doing something completely unrelated, possibly with the least amount of responsibility possible.

It's all very well the government telling us all we have to work until a minimum of 67, but what do you do if nobody will employ you?

I think the governments big Universal Basic Income experiment during Covid is the reason a lot of people in their 50s have decided to jack it all in. Whilst they were getting paid Furlough they realised there was more to live than working and they could survive on less money than they expected.

bigpriest

1,616 posts

131 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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otolith said:


Smaller part of the working population, and a higher rate of non-employment.
No need for % on both the axis and the data points
Blue for boys and Pink for girls?

Visualisation yellow card offences.

GiantCardboardPlato

4,308 posts

22 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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bigpriest said:
No need for % on both the axis and the data points
Blue for boys and Pink for girls?

Visualisation yellow card offences.
Can i bring you to a conference please?

StevieBee

12,965 posts

256 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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It's a perfect storm of a larger number of older-mid aged people being able to capitalise on what were incredibly generous pensions back in the late 80s and 90s and benefiting from inheritance to much higher levels than have been seen previously. The end terrance ex-council house they grew up in is now worth £0.5m which when added to a decent final salary pensions and a paid-off mortgage means they can remove themselves from the workplace and lead a prosperous life whilst doing diddly squat.

I've yet to determine if this is a good thing (for society) or not. One the one hand you're loosing experience. But on the other, it forces innovative thinking unencumbered from a 'we don't do things like that' mentality that can prevail amongst the older generation.