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Personally, I think the rider whose chances of winning the Tour have increased the most is Roglic. Whilst I'd fancy Pogacar to beat him if they were both coming to the Tour fresh, if he rides the Giro to win, I think he'll have his work cut out against Roglic and a very focused Bora.
We've seen before that whilst Pogacar is a generational talent, he's by no means unbeatable. And I think Roglic will savour the opportunity of dishing out a little payback for 2020.
We've seen before that whilst Pogacar is a generational talent, he's by no means unbeatable. And I think Roglic will savour the opportunity of dishing out a little payback for 2020.
WestyCarl said:
LM240 said:
Paris Roubaix.. probably my favourite of the one day races.
Just incredible performance from MVDP today.
The speed and aggressive style of racing is just bonkers.
Pretty much 30mph average for 160 miles!!! That’s crazy over pan flat tarmac, let alone over the cobbled sections.
Agreed and the apparent ease that MVDP just rode away from the bunch was incredible.Just incredible performance from MVDP today.
The speed and aggressive style of racing is just bonkers.
Pretty much 30mph average for 160 miles!!! That’s crazy over pan flat tarmac, let alone over the cobbled sections.
To be fair, Cancellara and Boonen both made it look easy the years they similarly jetted off the front to win solo.
johnpsanderson said:
WestyCarl said:
LM240 said:
Paris Roubaix.. probably my favourite of the one day races.
Just incredible performance from MVDP today.
The speed and aggressive style of racing is just bonkers.
Pretty much 30mph average for 160 miles!!! That’s crazy over pan flat tarmac, let alone over the cobbled sections.
Agreed and the apparent ease that MVDP just rode away from the bunch was incredible.Just incredible performance from MVDP today.
The speed and aggressive style of racing is just bonkers.
Pretty much 30mph average for 160 miles!!! That’s crazy over pan flat tarmac, let alone over the cobbled sections.
To be fair, Cancellara and Boonen both made it look easy the years they similarly jetted off the front to win solo.
oddball1313 said:
S100HP said:
To be fair the same was said about Cancellara back in the day
was the possible existence of motors known about around 2010?https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/fo...
https://www.granfondoguide.com/Contents/Index/3323...
Feels like only yesterday, can't believe it was 14 years ago. I'm getting old.
Stevie Williams, first British male winner of the Fleche Wallonne. Brilliant effort!
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/stevie-williams...
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/stevie-williams...
S100HP said:
oddball1313 said:
S100HP said:
To be fair the same was said about Cancellara back in the day
was the possible existence of motors known about around 2010?https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/fo...
https://www.granfondoguide.com/Contents/Index/3323...
Feels like only yesterday, can't believe it was 14 years ago. I'm getting old.
lauda said:
Personally, I think the rider whose chances of winning the Tour have increased the most is Roglic. Whilst I'd fancy Pogacar to beat him if they were both coming to the Tour fresh, if he rides the Giro to win, I think he'll have his work cut out against Roglic and a very focused Bora.
We've seen before that whilst Pogacar is a generational talent, he's by no means unbeatable. And I think Roglic will savour the opportunity of dishing out a little payback for 2020.
Pogacar is still human, physiologically there are plenty of riders with similar FTP/kg, where he's a little unusual is that he's good at pretty much everything.We've seen before that whilst Pogacar is a generational talent, he's by no means unbeatable. And I think Roglic will savour the opportunity of dishing out a little payback for 2020.
Again that's a factor of people being able to train like a pro with diet, monitors and power pretty much as soon as they've finished their growth spurt.
When riders were first getting into scientific training (and no that's not a euphemism for drugs) with power and monitoring they started applying it to specialisation and as a result we ended up with specialists being unbeatable by generalists in their domain. Gradually I suspect that they are working out that with the exception of the most specialised sprinters the physiology is pretty similar for most efforts and that you don't really loose anything by training for everything.
The second bit of it is that better bikes and wide tyres mean that the skill of riding cobbles is reduced so that again the rider with the best FTP/kg frequently wins.
Finally as the levels and professionalism in the pro peleton equalises all races and race stages are hard, the basic minimum wage domestique has an ftp/kg of about 6w/kg and thus you rarely end up with isolated team leaders. They normally go head to head and the best rider wins. Furthermore with scientific race schedules those best riders will then be pretty consistently good so they end up with incredible win/loss ratios.
lauda said:
I’m watching but I don’t feel like there’s an awful lot of jeopardy in the result. Watching UAE ripping the peloton to pieces yesterday and dropping the likes of Bardet was rather ominous.
I’m looking forward to watching the highlights tonight as was stunned at it almost blowing apart yesterday. Very glad for the winner (in case folks haven’t seen the result,) and I can’t remember a first stage in any recent times (TT and TTT aside) where such gaps popped up - regardless of final gaps?It was certainly a ‘statement’ of intent!
I turned over from Toulouse v Quinns at half time and slotted nicely into the last 10km of stage 2.
Avg 24kph @ 7% incline then Pog hit the burners on 11% incline. Went upto 27kph. BoC tried to stick with him but paid a price losing 1min in the end. G was easily best of the rest but played safe and secure. I’m presuming the game plan there is stay in the game, be best of the rest and pick up any mishap from Pog for the win.
Discounting Pog though, I’d say G is in some fair shape as I think he could have ridden away and “gapped” the rest of the lead group over that last 5km if he pushed. Not bad for the old man!
Avg 24kph @ 7% incline then Pog hit the burners on 11% incline. Went upto 27kph. BoC tried to stick with him but paid a price losing 1min in the end. G was easily best of the rest but played safe and secure. I’m presuming the game plan there is stay in the game, be best of the rest and pick up any mishap from Pog for the win.
Discounting Pog though, I’d say G is in some fair shape as I think he could have ridden away and “gapped” the rest of the lead group over that last 5km if he pushed. Not bad for the old man!
I see Gesink crashed and broke his hand so is now out.
Not huge news as such, but just makes you think. You work so hard to get in shape, to peak and perform at a race that is part of your year goal, and it ends so abruptly, likely outside of your control.
Not the first, or last rider to injure themselves in the first day or so of a GT, but just felt sorry for him.
Not huge news as such, but just makes you think. You work so hard to get in shape, to peak and perform at a race that is part of your year goal, and it ends so abruptly, likely outside of your control.
Not the first, or last rider to injure themselves in the first day or so of a GT, but just felt sorry for him.
S100HP said:
lauda said:
I’m watching but I don’t feel like there’s an awful lot of jeopardy in the result. Watching UAE ripping the peloton to pieces yesterday and dropping the likes of Bardet was rather ominous.
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