Turbo trainers/Zwift/Peleton

[okgo]

Tried Rouvy the other day. Hated it, switched to Zwift ten minutes in. Gradient/effort felt miles off. Barely anyone in the game and only 1 second power display? Are the fking mad?!

All of the apps surely sync to Strava/TPGarmin? Basic stuff non?

[Smitters]

Harpoon said:

Smitters said:

Ignoring the fact I'll not be using an Apple device again after having my perfectly functional iPhone developed into obsolescence, I paid half the cost of an iPad 10.

Tower PC was 90, GPU 65 and a 650w power unit 40.

Which GPU did you go for? I've got a refurb Dell i5 I got for Zwift with the intention of adding a GPU but then saw the price of a low profile GTX 1650 - ouch! I'm currently using a i3 NUC and it sometimes struggles on a big group ride at 1080p.

A used Nvidia Geforce gtx 980ti. I'm not sure it'll physically fit, but it's a voyage of discovery. And I have a dremel. Holes mean cooling right?

[Tim O]

I too built a specifically for Zwift.

Dell base unit7th gen i5 (£90), 8gb of ram I had in a drawer, used graphics card, Nvidia GeForce 1050ti (£70). Fitted a Crucial 1Tb ssd (£40?). I already had a monitor.

Works very well, runs Zwift in Ultra, no problem.

Some useful information on PC requirements here:

https://zwiftinsider.com/zwift-pc-guide-2/

Edited by Tim O on Wednesday 28th February 21:24

[Smitters]

Tim O said:

I too built a specifically for Zwift.

Dell base unit7th gen i5 (£90), 8gb of ram I had in a drawer, used graphics card, Nvidia GeForce 1050ti (£70). Fitted a Crucial 1Tb ssd (£40?). I already had a monitor.

Works very well, runs Zwift in Ultra, no problem.

Some useful information on PC requirements here:

https://zwiftinsider.com/zwift-pc-guide-2/

Edited by Tim O on Wednesday 28th February 21:24

Bit of an own goal. Ebay image showed a full size tower case. It definitely isn't. Power supply and card are unlikely to fit! I'll connect everything and get proof of life and then worry about housing it.

[Dan_1981]

Any users of mywhoosh?

Much smaller user base but never really used zwift for the social element.

I do enjoy the gamification / challenge side of things.

My whoosh any good?

[emicen]

Dan_1981 said:

Any users of mywhoosh?

Much smaller user base but never really used zwift for the social element.

I do enjoy the gamification / challenge side of things.

My whoosh any good?

It’s usually gets a mention everything someone starts a Zwift alternative thread, latest mention I recall was in this very thread back in December

lauda said:

ferrisbueller said:

ferrisbueller said:

sebdangerfield said:

ferrisbueller said:

Zwift's annual subs is starting to rack up. Anyone using MyWhoosh?

Considering it's £12.99 monthly and they've only just started to offer annual subs I thought £129.99 was decent value when all my other subs are skyrocketing.

I think I've been on it since lockdown, so that's how it's racking up. £129.99 is a good discount, but there are free apps that might do what I need, as a casual hour-a-day cardio fix.

I've been using MyWhoosh for a week, just to try it out. I can't see what Zwift offers for £12.99 that isn't in MyWhoosh for free as far as my needs are concerned.

Zwift has the advantage of not effectively being state-owned by a repressive dictatorship. If that sort of thing matters to you.

[M1K3]

OK made the switch to Zwift this morning, a question I have is on the screen when it asks to connect your gear. Currently I have the following:

Wahoo tickr fit
Wahoo kickr rollr
Garmin power meter pedals

What should I be connecting for

Cadence
Power source

I ask because currently I have them both connected to my pedals, but I am not convinced this is best for ERG mode.

[okgo]

I’ve only ever used my Powermeter for cadence and power. Don’t trust the garbage they put in turbo units. Though things have likely improved in that regard.

[andy-ski]

M1K3 said:

OK made the switch to Zwift this morning, a question I have is on the screen when it asks to connect your gear. Currently I have the following:

Wahoo tickr fit
Wahoo kickr rollr
Garmin power meter pedals

What should I be connecting for

Cadence
Power source

I ask because currently I have them both connected to my pedals, but I am not convinced this is best for ERG mode.

That’ll be the correct way.
You could add another cadence sensor but I’d say the pedals do a great job of that, and you won’t see/feel any difference anyway.
I take it the rollers over resistance controlled by Zwift and you’ll use gears in normal riding and racing not ERG mode. In ERG mode you don’t really need to change gears.
What is it you’re not convinced of?

[M1K3]

I'm only using it in workout so in theory (if I understand ERG mode correctly) I should be able to pedal at say 80 rpm for 250w output, but every time I tried that I'm over 300.

I'll test again in the morning on flatter terrain.

[andy-ski]

M1K3 said:

I'm only using it in workout so in theory (if I understand ERG mode correctly) I should be able to pedal at say 80 rpm for 250w output, but every time I tried that I'm over 300.

I'll test again in the morning on flatter terrain.

You do understand correctly!
Try an easier gear on your bike as maybe the rollers have a range of resistance you exceeded?

[CooperS]

So I’ve just received an email saying Zwift is going up to £17.99.


I may need to think about how much I really use it (a couple times a month).

Anyone on Rouvy or TrainerRoad? I kinda like the ease of Zwift but mentally I don’t use it enough to make it make sense

[FamousPheasant]

CooperS said:

So I’ve just received an email saying Zwift is going up to £17.99.


I may need to think about how much I really use it (a couple times a month).

Anyone on Rouvy or TrainerRoad? I kinda like the ease of Zwift but mentally I don’t use it enough to make it make sense

Just got the same email. I usually cancel it at this time of year and go outside, but the weather has been so rubbish I've been zwifting later this year. Will certainly encourage me to get back out.

[stargazer30]

The Zwift FB forum is seeing a few peed off people. 30% increase right when the weather is getting better and people traditionally use Zwift less or not at all. It's a bit of an own goal by them.

[numtumfutunch]

stargazer30 said:

The Zwift FB forum is seeing a few peed off people. 30% increase right when the weather is getting better and people traditionally use Zwift less or not at all. It's a bit of an own goal by them.

Totally this, bonkers timing

OK, so I know its £60/year however the mark up is significant and Im not seeing any new functionality or routes so I'll probably duck out for the summer and just do some free workouts when it rains

[okgo]

Hilarious timing. Brain transplants all round at Zwift towers.

[resolve10]

I've just cancelled my Zwift as well. It was difficult to justify at £12.99 a month as an occasional user, no chance at £17.99.

I'm a runner who dabbles with a bit of cycling to keep leg strength up so not worth it for me personally, though I do like the competitive element of the racing from time to time.

I often get very inconsistent performance with Zwift as well, I've used it in a couple of properties and the internet connection is never perfect (when is it in a garage?!) but it's so frsutrating as one ride can be totally fine and then the next is hampered by 5-10 dropouts where riders disappear and reappear.

Just had a look at the MyWhoosh website - what's the catch? It looks graphically as good as Zwift and has all the workout & racing features, but no option to subscribe. How does it make money?

[numtumfutunch]

resolve10 said:

I've just cancelled my Zwift as well. It was difficult to justify at £12.99 a month as an occasional user, no chance at £17.99.

I'm a runner who dabbles with a bit of cycling to keep leg strength up so not worth it for me personally, though I do like the competitive element of the racing from time to time.

I often get very inconsistent performance with Zwift as well, I've used it in a couple of properties and the internet connection is never perfect (when is it in a garage?!) but it's so frsutrating as one ride can be totally fine and then the next is hampered by 5-10 dropouts where riders disappear and reappear.

Just had a look at the MyWhoosh website - what's the catch? It looks graphically as good as Zwift and has all the workout & racing features, but no option to subscribe. How does it make money?

I imagine theres revenue in selling your data but more relevantly theyre waiting for critical mass to start making it subscription only - my Zwift subs run out next week so Im going to cancel anyway as a protest and see what MyWhoosh is like. Nowt to lose now the suns out

[22]

I got a year subscription with my hub thing, but have just set to not renew (end of the year). Imagine there'll be lots of similar.

[Pedaller]

okgo said:

Hilarious timing. Brain transplants all round at Zwift towers.

This was my initial reaction too, but on 2nd thought they always get a big drop in subs as the northern hemisphere summer arrives. Would most of the people cancelling due to this price hike today be cancelling this month anyway because summer is coming (for most of their user base)? I would guess yes.

If they did this during winter they would have people rage cancelling in a very lucrative period for them. Doing it now lets the dust settle before winter. I think people will suck it up and come back once the dark, wet nights are back and they’ve had time to sample other platforms, and realised they will pay the extra for Zwift despite its many flaws.