Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

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Rufus Stone

6,422 posts

57 months

Sunday 12th May
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Some people will take it literally.

bitchstewie

51,673 posts

211 months

Sunday 12th May
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Funny how out of all the things he could have gone for about Abbott the thing he went for was her colour don't you think?

Same as out of all the things Lee Anderson could legitimately criticise Khan for he went straight for the "Islamist" angle.

Could just be coincidence I guess.

If you chaps really want to defend that sort of thing you go for it.

smn159

12,786 posts

218 months

Sunday 12th May
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Frank Hester certainly does sound like a weapons grade

thetapeworm

11,301 posts

240 months

Sunday 12th May
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smn159 said:
Frank Hester certainly does sound like a weapons grade
Indeed, the additional quote stuff surely just adds to how abhorrent he is rather than diluting the Abbott bits? I'm keen to ensure he's seen for what he is, a general scumbag that's also racist rather than just a racist.

carlo996

5,922 posts

22 months

Sunday 12th May
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bhstewie said:
Funny how out of all the things he could have gone for about Abbott the thing he went for was her colour don't you think?

Same as out of all the things Lee Anderson could legitimately criticise Khan for he went straight for the "Islamist" angle.

Could just be coincidence I guess.

If you chaps really want to defend that sort of thing you go for it.
Bingo for stewie.

Lefty, race card, seeking offence….

S600BSB

4,880 posts

107 months

Sunday 12th May
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thetapeworm said:
smn159 said:
Frank Hester certainly does sound like a weapons grade
Indeed, the additional quote stuff surely just adds to how abhorrent he is rather than diluting the Abbott bits? I'm keen to ensure he's seen for what he is, a general scumbag that's also racist rather than just a racist.
That’s fair.

Dagnir

2,006 posts

164 months

Sunday 12th May
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carlo996 said:
bhstewie said:
Funny how out of all the things he could have gone for about Abbott the thing he went for was her colour don't you think?

Same as out of all the things Lee Anderson could legitimately criticise Khan for he went straight for the "Islamist" angle.

Could just be coincidence I guess.

If you chaps really want to defend that sort of thing you go for it.
Bingo for stewie.

Lefty, race card, seeking offence….
You missed off smug, patronising and condescending...

Dagnir

2,006 posts

164 months

Sunday 12th May
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bhstewie said:
Funny how out of all the things he could have gone for about Abbott the thing he went for was her colour don't you think?

Same as out of all the things Lee Anderson could legitimately criticise Khan for he went straight for the "Islamist" angle.

Could just be coincidence I guess.

If you chaps really want to defend that sort of thing you go for it.
It wasn't though. That's the whole point of the full transcript.


His point was that they're both so unbelievably st they make him want to be irrational even though he's not.

Seems you're still willfully ignoring the context?



The passive aggressive last sentence is just weak. Predicable but weak. Be better.

bitchstewie

51,673 posts

211 months

Sunday 12th May
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Water off a ducks back.

Like I said if you want to defend that sort of thing you go for it not sure how that's supposed to be passive aggressive.

NerveAgent

3,352 posts

221 months

Sunday 12th May
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bhstewie said:
Water off a ducks back.

Like I said if you want to defend that sort of thing you go for it not sure how that's supposed to be passive aggressive.
Why are you so obsessed with trying to paint a picture of anyone who doesn’t immediately agree with whatever your current outrage as “defending” something. It’s such a polarised mindset.

You aren’t as good at reading others thoughts as you think. (Quite the opposite in my experience).

Dagnir

2,006 posts

164 months

Sunday 12th May
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bhstewie said:
Water off a ducks back.

Like I said if you want to defend that sort of thing you go for it not sure how that's supposed to be passive aggressive.
Ditto.


And I also don't beleive you don't understand what's passive aggressive about what you wrote.


I respect your intellect more than that.

Killboy

7,491 posts

203 months

Sunday 12th May
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Dagnir said:
Ah, excellent, my thanks for the added context.

Not sure if I had seen the full transcript written as such but it certainly supports my position and undermines the media narrative....shockingly!

Stewie - I assume you hadn't read the whole thing either...any comment?

Does the full context chnage your views at all, or can't you get past the fact that a tory mentioned race?
It doesn't help my view at all, he sounds sexist now too! Classy

captain_cynic

12,190 posts

96 months

Sunday 12th May
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NerveAgent said:
bhstewie said:
Water off a ducks back.

Like I said if you want to defend that sort of thing you go for it not sure how that's supposed to be passive aggressive.
Why are you so obsessed with trying to paint a picture of anyone who doesn’t immediately agree with whatever your current outrage as “defending” something. It’s such a polarised mindset.

You aren’t as good at reading others thoughts as you think. (Quite the opposite in my experience).
He's not... You're trying to claim he is.

Why are you so obsessed with anyone who criticises the Tories, especially when that criticism is deserved.

NerveAgent

3,352 posts

221 months

Sunday 12th May
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captain_cynic said:
NerveAgent said:
bhstewie said:
Water off a ducks back.

Like I said if you want to defend that sort of thing you go for it not sure how that's supposed to be passive aggressive.
Why are you so obsessed with trying to paint a picture of anyone who doesn’t immediately agree with whatever your current outrage as “defending” something. It’s such a polarised mindset.

You aren’t as good at reading others thoughts as you think. (Quite the opposite in my experience).
He's not... You're trying to claim he is.

Why are you so obsessed with anyone who criticises the Tories, especially when that criticism is deserved.
I’m not, hence why I never post anything like that. (And I’m not a Tory) (unlike bhiestewie)

DeejRC

5,850 posts

83 months

Sunday 12th May
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S600BSB said:
thetapeworm said:
smn159 said:
Frank Hester certainly does sound like a weapons grade
Indeed, the additional quote stuff surely just adds to how abhorrent he is rather than diluting the Abbott bits? I'm keen to ensure he's seen for what he is, a general scumbag that's also racist rather than just a racist.
That’s fair.
The bloke is an ahole. I don’t think this is a difficult conclusion to reach. In that transcript I think the racism bit is the nicest thing he said cos the rest of it was far worse! It doesn’t need to be “ism” related or anti/against any one particular thing, you can just take an overall position across the whole diatribe and go “yep, ahole”.
Or is this too simplistic for some ppl?

thetapeworm

11,301 posts

240 months

Sunday 12th May
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DeejRC said:
The bloke is an ahole. I don’t think this is a difficult conclusion to reach. In that transcript I think the racism bit is the nicest thing he said cos the rest of it was far worse! It doesn’t need to be “ism” related or anti/against any one particular thing, you can just take an overall position across the whole diatribe and go “yep, ahole”.
Or is this too simplistic for some ppl?
I'm glad others see this as I sure as heck didn't share the extended version to offer him any kind of excuse or paint him as an acceptable human.

As someone in the industry that's lived near the office he and the company have always had an awful reputation for stuff like this, he wasn't exactly hiding until he was needed as useful ammo against Sunak.

Riff Raff

5,141 posts

196 months

Sunday 12th May
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thetapeworm said:
DeejRC said:
The bloke is an ahole. I don’t think this is a difficult conclusion to reach. In that transcript I think the racism bit is the nicest thing he said cos the rest of it was far worse! It doesn’t need to be “ism” related or anti/against any one particular thing, you can just take an overall position across the whole diatribe and go “yep, ahole”.
Or is this too simplistic for some ppl?
I'm glad others see this as I sure as heck didn't share the extended version to offer him any kind of excuse or paint him as an acceptable human.

As someone in the industry that's lived near the office he and the company have always had an awful reputation for stuff like this, he wasn't exactly hiding until he was needed as useful ammo against Sunak.
We've probably missed the 'niche' explanation.

DeejRC

5,850 posts

83 months

Sunday 12th May
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“He’s an ahole” is a niche explanation??
Now I’m definately lost.

Riff Raff

5,141 posts

196 months

Sunday 12th May
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DeejRC said:
“He’s an ahole” is a niche explanation??
Now I’m definately lost.
A page or so back Dagnir said:
Noted that is a very niche explanation but I hope the nuance has come through.

carlo996

5,922 posts

22 months

Sunday 12th May
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captain_cynic said:
He's not... You're trying to claim he is.

Why are you so obsessed with anyone who criticises the Tories, especially when that criticism is deserved.
Who is defending them, that’s a big difference to be perma offended.