Israel invaded

[Carl_VivaEspana]

Reading the news, it looks like there is a IDF tank formation and troops amassing for the Israeli's to move into Rafah.

[fizz47]

The so called liberal state and democracy where Israelis are now trying to burn UNRWA headquarters in East Jerusalem.

A crowd accompanied by armed men were witnessed outside the compound chanting “Burn down the United Nations” (see video below 👇 from Israeli media).

https://x.com/unlazzarini/status/17886439519451507...


Knowing how people love to defend the indefensible there will be no doubt be sick people who will try to defend this and make excuses …

[Ridgemont]

JJJ. said:

https://time.com/6909636/gaza-death-toll/

Here we go again. The magical 30000 figure.


‘In the case of Gaza, acknowledging that there was an appalling and extremely deadly attack on October 7th, and that over 30,000 Gazans have died since, mostly women and children, seems like the most basic of cornerstones of reality on which to move toward constructive discussion and eventual resolution.’

Interesting figure 30,000. As of March 15th this year.

Now let’s try say December 2023.
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6063/Statist...

So that was how many in December?

Now January 2024
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/1/21/gaza-...

25000? Say what?

February 2024… wait for it

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/2/29/gaza-...

Oh.

Well onto March.

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-...

Well I guess it’s an increase.


This is the most incompetent genocide ever…

[Ridgemont]

fizz47 said:

The so called liberal state and democracy where Israelis are now trying to burn UNRWA headquarters in East Jerusalem.

A crowd accompanied by armed men were witnessed outside the compound chanting “Burn down the United Nations” (see video below ?? from Israeli media).

https://x.com/unlazzarini/status/17886439519451507...


Knowing how people love to defend the indefensible there will be no doubt be sick people who will try to defend this and make excuses …

Can’t say I blame them. The UNRWA is in hock to Hamas. As has been shown multiple times on this thread. Feel free to look up UNRWA Palestinian text books.

[JJJ.]

Many more similar articles were these came from.

''Israel still has no proof of Unrwa terrorist claims – but damage to aid agency is done''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/22/isra...

''UNRWA has not received any information, let alone any evidence, from the Israeli Authorities or any other Member State about the above claim. UNRWA became aware of this claim first from international media and later from a press briefing by an Israeli government official. ''

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/unrwa-claims-v...

[JJJ.]

Ridgemont said:

Well I guess it’s an increase.


This is the most incompetent genocide ever…

Well done!

[Ridgemont]

JJJ. said:

Ridgemont said:

Well I guess it’s an increase.


This is the most incompetent genocide ever…

Well done!

Well that or the most incompetent ever allegation of genocide.

YMMV.

[fido]

JJJ. said:

Many more similar articles were these came from.

''Israel still has no proof of Unrwa terrorist claims – but damage to aid agency is done''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/22/isra...

''UNRWA has not received any information, let alone any evidence, from the Israeli Authorities or any other Member State about the above claim.?UNRWA became aware of this claim first from international media and later from a press briefing by an Israeli government official.?''

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/unrwa-claims-v...

But enough evidence for the UN to fire the 10 people mentioned below? Smells like massive arse-covering to me.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68875...

"Israel initially alleged that 12 UNRWA staff took part in the Hamas attacks on southern Israel, which saw 1,200 people killed and about 250 taken hostage.

UNRWA fired the 10 of those employees who were still alive and a separate investigation by the UN's Office of Internal Oversight into those allegations is ongoing."

It doesn't really look that great for them ..

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-allegati...

Edited by fido on Thursday 9th May 23:47

[Ridgemont]

JJJ. said:

Many more similar articles were these came from.

''Israel still has no proof of Unrwa terrorist claims – but damage to aid agency is done''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/22/isra...

''UNRWA has not received any information, let alone any evidence, from the Israeli Authorities or any other Member State about the above claim.?UNRWA became aware of this claim first from international media and later from a press briefing by an Israeli government official.?''

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/unrwa-claims-v...

Really? Because Israel see’s that very differently

https://govextra.gov.il/unrwa/terror-links/

[Ridgemont]

And the idea that the UNRWA hasn’t been compromised, certainly as far as the Israelis are concerned, for years is for the birds. As any cursory review of even a basic resource as Wikipedia would make clear…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNRWA

[JJJ.]

Ridgemont said:

JJJ. said:

Many more similar articles were these came from.

''Israel still has no proof of Unrwa terrorist claims – but damage to aid agency is done''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/22/isra...

''UNRWA has not received any information, let alone any evidence, from the Israeli Authorities or any other Member State about the above claim.?UNRWA became aware of this claim first from international media and later from a press briefing by an Israeli government official.?''

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/unrwa-claims-v...

Really? Because Israel see’s that very differently

https://govextra.gov.il/unrwa/terror-links/

Israel??????? Ha, ha, ha., the best laugh of the day. Israel see's everything differently, wonder why... The country is on the back foot in more ways than one, propaganda and lies are not an optional policy.

[Ridgemont]

JJJ. said:

Ridgemont said:

JJJ. said:

Many more similar articles were these came from.

''Israel still has no proof of Unrwa terrorist claims – but damage to aid agency is done''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/22/isra...

''UNRWA has not received any information, let alone any evidence, from the Israeli Authorities or any other Member State about the above claim.?UNRWA became aware of this claim first from international media and later from a press briefing by an Israeli government official.?''

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/unrwa-claims-v...

Really? Because Israel see’s that very differently

https://govextra.gov.il/unrwa/terror-links/

Israel??????? Ha, ha, ha., the best laugh of the day. Israel see's everything differently, wonder why... The country is on the back foot in more ways than one, propaganda and lies are not an optional policy.

I don’t really care about what you believe. I’m just pointing out that the comment from the Guardian is incorrect.

[Biker 1]

Looks like St Greta joined the pointless bandwagon - presumably Israel is causing global boiling as well (???)

https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-80062...

[Solocle]

JJJ. said:

Why am I not surprised with your retort. The lady has rocked your insecure little boat, no doubt.

You really do go low with trying to play the man rather than the subject matter, you should be embarrassed.

Go on disagree or take issue with the Jewish lady, leave a comment in YT vid!

Edited by JJJ. on Thursday 9th May 12:21

Why would I watch nonsense posted by you, when the very title you so conveniently quote illustrates that she's one of those JVP types who go around enabling antisemites to say "look, we're not racist, we have Jewish friends!"

If the arguments she makes are so valid then how is her being Jewish or not of any relevance?

And yet you're obsessed with her being Jewish. I wonder why...

I also wonder why the one local instance of "Free Palestine" graffiti that I have seen just so happened to be by the rear entrance to a local synagogue...

But, instead of confronting the vile racism in the anti-Israel movement, it's all "look, we have Jews! We can't be racists. We're just antizionists.". off.

[Chamon_Lee]

Solocle said:

JJJ. said:

Why am I not surprised with your retort. The lady has rocked your insecure little boat, no doubt.

You really do go low with trying to play the man rather than the subject matter, you should be embarrassed.

Go on disagree or take issue with the Jewish lady, leave a comment in YT vid!

Edited by JJJ. on Thursday 9th May 12:21

Why would I watch nonsense posted by you, when the very title you so conveniently quote illustrates that she's one of those JVP types who go around enabling antisemites to say "look, we're not racist, we have Jewish friends!"

If the arguments she makes are so valid then how is her being Jewish or not of any relevance?

And yet you're obsessed with her being Jewish. I wonder why...

I also wonder why the one local instance of "Free Palestine" graffiti that I have seen just so happened to be by the rear entrance to a local synagogue...

But, instead of confronting the vile racism in the anti-Israel movement, it's all "look, we have Jews! We can't be racists. We're just antizionists.". off.

You've got a narrative and you're so blind by it you cant see the trees from the forest.

[Countdown]

Ridgemont said:

Really? Because Israel see’s that very differently

https://govextra.gov.il/unrwa/terror-links/

Strange then that it hasnt managed to produce any actual evidence....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/22/isra...

https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-unrwa-unite...

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/23/1246613547/unrwa-is...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/unrwa-review-israel-...

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hasbara

[fido]

Countdown said:

Strange then that it hasnt managed to produce any actual evidence....

So they were just fired for no reason?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68875...

"Israel initially alleged that 12 UNRWA staff took part in the Hamas attacks on southern Israel, which saw 1,200 people killed and about 250 taken hostage.

UNRWA fired the 10 of those employees who were still alive and a separate investigation by the UN's Office of Internal Oversight into those allegations is ongoing."

It's not really up to Israel to investigate this compromised/corrupt organisation.

[JJJ.]

Solocle said:

JJJ. said:

Why am I not surprised with your retort. The lady has rocked your insecure little boat, no doubt.

You really do go low with trying to play the man rather than the subject matter, you should be embarrassed.

Go on disagree or take issue with the Jewish lady, leave a comment in YT vid!

Edited by JJJ. on Thursday 9th May 12:21

Why would I watch nonsense posted by you, when the very title you so conveniently quote illustrates that she's one of those JVP types who go around enabling antisemites to say "look, we're not racist, we have Jewish friends!"

If the arguments she makes are so valid then how is her being Jewish or not of any relevance?

And yet you're obsessed with her being Jewish. I wonder why...

I also wonder why the one local instance of "Free Palestine" graffiti that I have seen just so happened to be by the rear entrance to a local synagogue...

But, instead of confronting the vile racism in the anti-Israel movement, it's all "look, we have Jews! We can't be racists. We're just antizionists.". off.

You're obviously disturbed by this Jewish lady's views and convictions, you're boat has been truly rocked.

Instead of getting all Zionist about the video, you know the the type of thing. Roaring, shouting, disagreeing vermently with anybody that doesn't tow the Zionist line even if it means accepting that two plus two is five and trying to make everything personal when the facts are not favourable to your dogma and twisted logic, why bother saying anything at all...
If ever there was a case for saying nothing and saying nothing again, you should really consider that policy.

I've posted video up again just in case anybody missed it.

https://youtu.be/4mEuE-XiHj4? Oksi=3rwz8F528c0f15Pd

Edited by JJJ. on Friday 10th May 11:19

[Puddenchucker]

JJJ. said:

Instead of getting all Zionist about the video, you know the the type of thing. Roaring, shouting, disagreeing vermently with anybody that doesn't tow the Zionist line even if it means accepting that two plus two is five and trying to make everything personal when the facts are not favourable to your dogma and twisted logic, why bother saying anything at all...

Change Zionist to anti-Israeli and the exact same accusation could be levelled at you.

JJJ. said:

If ever there was a case for saying nothing and saying nothing again, you should really consider that policy.

Practice what you preach.




(And for the record, I don't condone the way Israel is conducting itself in Gaza or the West Bank)

[s1962a]

Biden is getting a lot of heat for threatening to stop arms shipments. Given the backlash, it's unlikely he'll actually go through with it, as he'll lose support from lobby groups and donors otherwise.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-freezing-arms-...

This guy sums it up well

article said:

The electoral warning was echoed by Haim Saban, an Israeli-American entertainment mogul and a major donor to Democrats, who appeared to hint that Jewish support for his campaign could dry up while accusing the president of playing for votes.

“Let’s not forget that there are more Jewish donors who care about Israel than Muslim voters who care about Hamas,” he said in an email to Biden that circulated widely on social media. “Bad…bad…bad… decision on all levels.”