Russia Invades Ukraine. Volume 4
Discussion
I do agree Russia will have all of Ukraine over time with massive loss of lives on both sides . Huge depletion of NATO stockpiles and the proof that most European countries are scared of Russia and rightly so . They are relentless and driven , evil and without fear .
All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
cliffords said:
Huge depletion of NATO stockpiles
That's simply wrong, had NATO stocks been drawn down prior to replenishment being possible the war may have been over by now, at the least there would have been no periods of shell drought. As it is NATO stocks are as healthy as ever they were and the ability to replenish them is greater than at any point since the end of the cold war.cliffords said:
They are relentless and driven , evil and without fear .
This is just a russia stronk meme, russians are dying in their thousands because they're flesh and blood lead by inept and corrupt scumbags.cliffords said:
All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer.
You are relieving the ukrainians of agency, which at the least is fabulously patronising.cliffords said:
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
Mostly opinion and demonstrably ill-informed opinion at that.cliffords said:
I do agree Russia will have all of Ukraine over time with massive loss of lives on both sides . Huge depletion of NATO stockpiles and the proof that most European countries are scared of Russia and rightly so . They are relentless and driven , evil and without fear .
All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
There is a significant difference between opinion and fact.All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
pingu393 said:
cliffords said:
I do agree Russia will have all of Ukraine over time with massive loss of lives on both sides . Huge depletion of NATO stockpiles and the proof that most European countries are scared of Russia and rightly so . They are relentless and driven , evil and without fear .
All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
There is a significant difference between opinion and fact.All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
TEKNOPUG said:
bristolracer said:
The Russians work on pounding the s
t and grinding down the opposition with endless artillery and men both of which they have in massive numbers. It’s how they win wars.
Which wars?t and grinding down the opposition with endless artillery and men both of which they have in massive numbers. It’s how they win wars.t kicked out of them by those same rebels? TEKNOPUG said:
bristolracer said:
The Russians work on pounding the st and grinding down the opposition with endless artillery and men both of which they have in massive numbers. It’s how they win wars.
Which wars?t and grinding down the opposition with endless artillery and men both of which they have in massive numbers. It’s how they win wars.Another factor in the war is economy, the spin is that Russian economy is doing just fine, but the interest rate has gone up to 16% ip from 7.5% from Jily last year. I read some reports that diesel prices have increased by 47% between end of 2023 and end of March others say fuel prices are stable, sonot sure what the situation is?
hidetheelephants said:
TEKNOPUG said:
bristolracer said:
The Russians work on pounding the st and grinding down the opposition with endless artillery and men both of which they have in massive numbers. It’s how they win wars.
Which wars?t and grinding down the opposition with endless artillery and men both of which they have in massive numbers. It’s how they win wars.t kicked out of them by those same rebels? And every now and then that leader blackmails Russia with hints it might all kick off again and Putin eagerly makes more financial concessions.
Oliver Hardy said:
Russia is reluctant to conscript from the larger towns and if they have so much artillery why are they buying from North Korea and why have they not used it? I know that at the start of the war they were out shelling Ukraine by 10 to 1 but believe this has fallen off.
Another factor in the war is economy, the spin is that Russian economy is doing just fine, but the interest rate has gone up to 16% ip from 7.5% from Jily last year. I read some reports that diesel prices have increased by 47% between end of 2023 and end of March others say fuel prices are stable, sonot sure what the situation is?
And this is peak Russia. After 2024 Russia's effort will decline, they *plan* a reduction in military spending after this year - their economy is declining, not improving.Another factor in the war is economy, the spin is that Russian economy is doing just fine, but the interest rate has gone up to 16% ip from 7.5% from Jily last year. I read some reports that diesel prices have increased by 47% between end of 2023 and end of March others say fuel prices are stable, sonot sure what the situation is?
Anders Puck Neilson makes a pretty good point here:
https://youtu.be/zXzs4dlfN30?si=ah93ve2USMcaNMmw
What if Russia's plan is simply not a very good one? Firstly diluting your effort over a large front is not convenientionally good strategy, secondly if analysts can't even agree on what you're doing then maybe that's a sign that your plan isn't very good!
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1791968215683207662
Large overnight attack on Russia using drones. Ukraine seems to be able to launch increasing amounts of drones into Russia.
Large overnight attack on Russia using drones. Ukraine seems to be able to launch increasing amounts of drones into Russia.
pingu393 said:
cliffords said:
I do agree Russia will have all of Ukraine over time with massive loss of lives on both sides . Huge depletion of NATO stockpiles and the proof that most European countries are scared of Russia and rightly so . They are relentless and driven , evil and without fear .
All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
There is a significant difference between opinion and fact.All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
the Russians see the west stepping up supplies and no end in sight make no mistake its hurting them.
borcy said:
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1791968215683207662
Large overnight attack on Russia using drones. Ukraine seems to be able to launch increasing amounts of drones into Russia.
It’s possible they’ve had the ability for some time, but the concern over getting the required support form the USA tied their hands, somewhat. Now that’s agreed, the gloves are off.Large overnight attack on Russia using drones. Ukraine seems to be able to launch increasing amounts of drones into Russia.
Digga said:
borcy said:
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1791968215683207662
Large overnight attack on Russia using drones. Ukraine seems to be able to launch increasing amounts of drones into Russia.
It’s possible they’ve had the ability for some time, but the concern over getting the required support form the USA tied their hands, somewhat. Now that’s agreed, the gloves are off.Large overnight attack on Russia using drones. Ukraine seems to be able to launch increasing amounts of drones into Russia.
I'm guessing they'd like to get to the point where they can do that many every night.
cliffords said:
I do agree Russia will have all of Ukraine over time with massive loss of lives on both sides . Huge depletion of NATO stockpiles and the proof that most European countries are scared of Russia and rightly so . They are relentless and driven , evil and without fear .
All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
You really are special. And not in a good way. All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
cliffords said:
pingu393 said:
cliffords said:
I do agree Russia will have all of Ukraine over time with massive loss of lives on both sides . Huge depletion of NATO stockpiles and the proof that most European countries are scared of Russia and rightly so . They are relentless and driven , evil and without fear .
All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
There is a significant difference between opinion and fact.All that the last two years have achieved is a greater amount of dead young men .Drip feeding Ukraine has just made it take longer .
Before the next post comes in I am stating the facts not supporting the Russian military by doing so .
borcy said:
https://x.com/Tendar/status/1791968215683207662
Large overnight attack on Russia using drones. Ukraine seems to be able to launch increasing amounts of drones into Russia.
IMHO Ukraine should do more targeted attacks on Russia.Large overnight attack on Russia using drones. Ukraine seems to be able to launch increasing amounts of drones into Russia.
They cant hide power stations etc being bliwn up from the public if done at scake.
Steer clear if civilians tho
They need to find where these glide bombs are being made or stored and target that.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz5drkr8l1ko
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz5drkr8l1ko
king arthur said:
They need to find where these glide bombs are being made or stored and target that.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz5drkr8l1ko
These are possibly the best weapon Russia have for their horrible warfare methods. Cheap and destructive.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz5drkr8l1ko
Can NATO kit mess with their guidance or Ilraine target the airfields the fighters use?
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