Ped gets 3 years for manslaughter of cyclist hit by car…
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Vanden Saab said:
While we have all seen drivers encroach onto pavements at some point or another, I cannot remember the last time I saw a car driving to work or the shops only on the pavement rather than using the road. Let alone doing it on a regular basis everytime they went out.
May be we should allow old people to drive on the pavement because it would be safer for them.
Why the waffle and bullsMay be we should allow old people to drive on the pavement because it would be safer for them.
Edited by Vanden Saab on Sunday 12th May 09:41
t? Why the avoidance of acknowledging the daily reality?Everyone* drives on pavements in order to park on them. Huge numbers do it daily, huge numbers actually keep their cars on or partially on pavements.
Rule 145. You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
There it is, in black and white with no ambiguity whatsoever.
Those who take the time to type out the laws regarding cyclists all break rule 145 themselves. Every one.
Me, I break rule 145 and thus do not complain about others breaking the rules.
Indeed it seems Pistonheads is a forum where people openly discuss breaking laws while carping about others who break laws to far lesser impact on others. Have you seen the thread on cutting down cameras?
heebeegeetee said:
Agreed. Here we are, essentially on a forum that celebrates everything to do with breaking the law with motor cars. Speed Matters. We celebrate breaking speed limits and flouting any rules on noise. Sympathy is almost always expressed to those caught breaking the law, including the chap recently who has 2x speeding penalties and has now been caught driving uninsured.
The consequences when things go wrong with machines weighing tonnes being driven over the speed limit are massively greater than an old lady with a hearing impediment cycling slowly on a pavement.
I think, to carp about a 77 yr old lady cycling slowly on a pavement you have to be a full on old man/boomer/gammon/Havers/Talk TV/GB News right wing muppet. To be bothered about the elderly (and indeed children, as some are) cycling slowly on pavements (and BTW it is pretty certain that this was a shared path) I think there has to be something wrong with you. You've lost the plot.
When you say we, you mean I. You continue to piously celebrate illegality, you don't speak for me or many others.The consequences when things go wrong with machines weighing tonnes being driven over the speed limit are massively greater than an old lady with a hearing impediment cycling slowly on a pavement.
I think, to carp about a 77 yr old lady cycling slowly on a pavement you have to be a full on old man/boomer/gammon/Havers/Talk TV/GB News right wing muppet. To be bothered about the elderly (and indeed children, as some are) cycling slowly on pavements (and BTW it is pretty certain that this was a shared path) I think there has to be something wrong with you. You've lost the plot.
eldar said:
When you say we, you mean I. You continue to piously celebrate illegality, you don't speak for me or many others.
That's insane. When I'm driving, watching just about everyone breaking rules and laws, what am I seeing?Are you seriously suggesting that drivers breaking laws is somehow a rare thing?
I'm not saying any of this bothers me. What does bother me is the epic dishonesty and hypocrisy whenever a conversation about it is attempted. I am bothered about the dishonesty, hypocrisy, bulls
t and sheer curmudgeoness in so many drivers, even here on forum that celebrates motoring.Your comment is dishonest.
Vanden Saab said:
While we have all seen drivers encroach onto pavements at some point or another, I cannot remember the last time I saw a car driving to work or the shops only on the pavement rather than using the road. Let alone doing it on a regular basis everytime they went out.
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This. Some cyclists on here would have us believe that it’s hypocritical to point this out because motorists regularly exceed the speed limit and such like. They refuse to see the difference ]
andymadmak said:
Vanden Saab said:
While we have all seen drivers encroach onto pavements at some point or another, I cannot remember the last time I saw a car driving to work or the shops only on the pavement rather than using the road. Let alone doing it on a regular basis everytime they went out.
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This. Some cyclists on here would have us believe that it’s hypocritical to point this out because motorists regularly exceed the speed limit and such like. They refuse to see the difference ]
andymadmak said:
Vanden Saab said:
While we have all seen drivers encroach onto pavements at some point or another, I cannot remember the last time I saw a car driving to work or the shops only on the pavement rather than using the road. Let alone doing it on a regular basis everytime they went out.
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This. Some cyclists on here would have us believe that it’s hypocritical to point this out because motorists regularly exceed the speed limit and such like. They refuse to see the difference ]
andymadmak said:
This. Some cyclists on here would have us believe that it’s hypocritical to point this out because motorists regularly exceed the speed limit and such like. They refuse to see the difference
It is absolutely different. One causes thousands of deaths and serious injuries a year. The other causes lots of hand ringing and frothing.Vanden Saab said:
While we have all seen drivers encroach onto pavements at some point or another, I cannot remember the last time I saw a car driving to work or the shops only on the pavement rather than using the road. Let alone doing it on a regular basis everytime they went out.
May be we should allow old people to drive on the pavement because it would be safer for them.
So you accept people drive in the pavement? Brilliant.May be we should allow old people to drive on the pavement because it would be safer for them.
Edited by Vanden Saab on Sunday 12th May 09:41
Now I suggest you look up the location of KSIs between cars and pedestrians. Hint: your about ten times as likely to be hit by a car than a cyclist as a pedestrian on the pavement.
monthou said:
andymadmak said:
Vanden Saab said:
While we have all seen drivers encroach onto pavements at some point or another, I cannot remember the last time I saw a car driving to work or the shops only on the pavement rather than using the road. Let alone doing it on a regular basis everytime they went out.
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This. Some cyclists on here would have us believe that it’s hypocritical to point this out because motorists regularly exceed the speed limit and such like. They refuse to see the difference ]
monthou said:
eldar said:
When you say we, you mean I. You continue to piously celebrate illegality, you don't speak for me or many others.
Accepting that you don't celebrate illegality here, do you regularly break the law when you drive or not?eldar said:
monthox u said:
eldar said:
No comment, but I dont brag about speeding. Are you a criminal?
No comment? Seriously? What a cop out.Edited by monthou on Sunday 12th May 15:42
Oliver Hardy said:
Cyclists using the pavement can be OK (yes I know it is against the law) but most cyclists do so recklessly, they cycle to fast, to near pedestrians, in to crowded areas and on paths that are not wide enough.
Not round me they don’t, I’ve never seen such behaviour. Where do you live?Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff