JSO Pensioners Fail to Break Glass

[Baroque attacks]

biggbn said:

Baroque attacks said:

Slowboathome said:

biggbn said:

What effect has their actions had on the rest of the population? I'm sure in the eyes of many they'd be better sitting soporifically in a quiet house fulfilling the cultural obligation of being an old person, keeping on sipping the state sponsored Kool-Aid and regurgitating it incessantly without ever engaging their brains....

Because that's what 'old people' do if they're not vandalising things.

Yup.

A slightly odd view.

Perhaps see my earlier response, which I won't go to the bother of rewriting.

We did…

[biggbn]

Baroque attacks said:

biggbn said:

Baroque attacks said:

Slowboathome said:

biggbn said:

What effect has their actions had on the rest of the population? I'm sure in the eyes of many they'd be better sitting soporifically in a quiet house fulfilling the cultural obligation of being an old person, keeping on sipping the state sponsored Kool-Aid and regurgitating it incessantly without ever engaging their brains....

Because that's what 'old people' do if they're not vandalising things.

Yup.

A slightly odd view.

Perhaps see my earlier response, which I won't go to the bother of rewriting.

We did…

Ah, OK then. If that is how you translated what I wrote, there is little I can do about it. Have a wonderful evening.

Edited by biggbn on Sunday 12th May 19:27

[otolith]

This is what their tactics are leading to;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qv7425gvwo

[pork911]

Slowboathome said:

pork911 said:

Aye, oil vandalism is awful.

Wrong forum mate.

Apologies. Where might I find the script for the required group think here?

[Derek Smith]

scenario8 said:

Derek Smith said:

There were a number of Magna Carta. A few remain, dotted around the country.

It is, though, the most over-rated document in English history. Firstly, it made no difference as John ignored it and, secondly, it is for the benefit of those who already enjoyed a lot of the benefits of being Norman. The indigenous population - us plebs - were ignored. In many ways, it reinforced the de facto slavery of serfdom. Shame it wasn't damaged.

But, of course, the attempt at whatever was successful. I mean, it's generated a thread on PH, one of the bastions of resistance of global temperature stabilisation. How cool (sorry) is that?

I'm surprised that so many of the PH massive have seen and admired the document. I mean, it's written in Latin, and I don't speak it, apart from legal terms.

You might be a bit sniffy about Magna Carta if you so choose but “shame it wasn’t damaged?” Really?

Yes, really, and for the reasons I mentioned. Sniffy? I railed against the celebration of serfdom, absolute control in the hands of the few. Sniffy doesn't cut it. We are not honest about our history and we seem to revere the Normans, but they were thugs, murders and rapists. Not only that, they rejoiced in their power. So no, not sniffy. Something a lot more angry.

[Murph7355]

Derek Smith said:

Yes, really, and for the reasons I mentioned. Sniffy? I railed against the celebration of serfdom, absolute control in the hands of the few. Sniffy doesn't cut it. We are not honest about our history and we seem to revere the Normans, but they were thugs, murders and rapists. Not only that, they rejoiced in their power. So no, not sniffy. Something a lot more angry.

I've heard of people bearing grudges but that's taking it to an extreme, getting angry at the Normans

You (or me, or the two old scrotes this thread is about) shouldn't and don't get to choose which parts of history we preserve, And that's a good thing.

And besides, WTF has the magna carta got to do with stopping oil.

Absolute fking idiots who should have it thrown at them. I'll be there's a whole host of oil based stuff that pair of mouth breathers have benefitted from over the last 8 decades.

[Ridgemont]

Derek Smith said:

Yes, really, and for the reasons I mentioned. Sniffy? I railed against the celebration of serfdom, absolute control in the hands of the few. Sniffy doesn't cut it. We are not honest about our history and we seem to revere the Normans, but they were thugs, murders and rapists. Not only that, they rejoiced in their power. So no, not sniffy. Something a lot more angry.

This maybe the most unintentionally funniest post on NPE ever.

You really think you can judge Magna Carta on modern values? And get ‘angry’ about it?

It’s over 800 years old and essentially the best effort of articulating restraint in absolute power in Europe at the time.
Not least by encodifying right to trial and imposing limits on monarchical power.
Its principles underlie almost every single ‘right’ you have today, and the best you come up with is;

‘We are not honest about our history and we seem to revere the Normans, but they were thugs, murders and rapists. Not only that, they rejoiced in their power. So no, not sniffy. Something a lot more angry’

Unbelievable. Utterly ruinous interpretation of history. Hilarious if it wasn’t so toxic. You may know what you’re talking about re police regs but you are talking out of your absolute hat re constitutional history. Utterly bemusing.

[Slowboathome]

pork911 said:

Slowboathome said:

pork911 said:

Aye, oil vandalism is awful.

Wrong forum mate.

Apologies. Where might I find the script for the required group think here?

You've got your script. You're just in the wrong theatre.

[JagLover]

Ridgemont said:

You really think you can judge Magna Carta on modern values? And get ‘angry’ about it?

It’s over 800 years old and essentially the best effort of articulating restraint in absolute power in Europe at the time.
Not least by encodifying right to trial and imposing limits on monarchical power.
Its principles underlie almost every single ‘right’ you have today, and the best you come up with is;

To be fair it is a bit more nuanced than that.

Many European countries went through a process of first centralising of power and then co-opting other groups, Merchants, smaller landowners, Clergy, into the central power structure.

The criticism often raised with Magna Carta is that it is arguably not a step toward modernisation, but a reinforcement of the old Feudal system, where there is little resembling a "state", just Nobles with near absolute power within their own domains who only need to offer fealty to their feudal overlord. As such it can be argued it does little for the ordinary person.

However the principles raised in Magna Carta did become to be seen over time as applying to all Englishmen and somehow we muddled through to a shared power structure without an absolute monarch, though we needed a civil war to get there and the intervention of religious conflict. Magna Carta likely helped though the document itself was amended right from the start and only a few of the clauses still have any legal standing.

[Killboy]

Derek Smith said:

Yes, really, and for the reasons I mentioned. Sniffy? I railed against the celebration of serfdom, absolute control in the hands of the few. Sniffy doesn't cut it. We are not honest about our history and we seem to revere the Normans, but they were thugs, murders and rapists. Not only that, they rejoiced in their power. So no, not sniffy. Something a lot more angry.

Laughs from the colonies.

[KAgantua]

Slowboathome said:

pork911 said:

Slowboathome said:

pork911 said:

Aye, oil vandalism is awful.

Wrong forum mate.

Apologies. Where might I find the script for the required group think here?

You've got your script. You're just in the wrong theatre.

Has username relevant to a Porsche 911
Trolls for the hard left.

Username is a great cover though, I take it 'Ilovecarsmehonest' was taken?

[Murph7355]

Ridgemont said:

....
You really think you can judge Magna Carta on modern values? And get ‘angry’ about it?
...

Derek's real ire is that his hammer skills were so demonstrably poor

[pork911]

KAgantua said:

Slowboathome said:

pork911 said:

Slowboathome said:

pork911 said:

Aye, oil vandalism is awful.

Wrong forum mate.

Apologies. Where might I find the script for the required group think here?

You've got your script. You're just in the wrong theatre.

Has username relevant to a Porsche 911
Trolls for the hard left.

Username is a great cover though, I take it 'Ilovecarsmehonest' was taken?

and in steps a perfect exemplar

[KAgantua]

pork911 said:

KAgantua said:

Slowboathome said:

pork911 said:

Slowboathome said:

pork911 said:

Aye, oil vandalism is awful.

Wrong forum mate.

Apologies. Where might I find the script for the required group think here?

You've got your script. You're just in the wrong theatre.

Has username relevant to a Porsche 911
Trolls for the hard left.

Username is a great cover though, I take it 'Ilovecarsmehonest' was taken?

and in steps a perfect exemplar

Must... reply... to.... every.... post

[pork911]

KAgantua said:

pork911 said:

KAgantua said:

Slowboathome said:

pork911 said:

Slowboathome said:

pork911 said:

Aye, oil vandalism is awful.

Wrong forum mate.

Apologies. Where might I find the script for the required group think here?

You've got your script. You're just in the wrong theatre.

Has username relevant to a Porsche 911
Trolls for the hard left.

Username is a great cover though, I take it 'Ilovecarsmehonest' was taken?

and in steps a perfect exemplar

Must... reply... to.... every.... post

Ironic.

[The Gauge]

Due to all those oil protesters damaging property, the originals of important documents such as the Magna Carter should be locked away from public sight, with copies put out on display

Edited by The Gauge on Monday 13th May 22:50

[paulw123]

otolith said:

This is what their tactics are leading to;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qv7425gvwo

Good, sooner the better. There is a right to peaceful protest. Not a right to cause criminal damage, spread hate, cause misery to others etc.

[pork911]

The Gauge said:

Due to all those oil protesters damaging property, the originals of important documents such as the Magna Carter should be locked away from public sight, with copies put out on display

Edited by The Gauge on Monday 13th May 22:50

We could burn them for heating.

[otolith]

paulw123 said:

otolith said:

This is what their tactics are leading to;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qv7425gvwo

Good, sooner the better. There is a right to peaceful protest. Not a right to cause criminal damage, spread hate, cause misery to others etc.

Unfortunately, their unreasonable behaviour is leading to the government acquiring powers which could be abused. Not for the first time. They’ve given more reason to erode civil liberties than any other cause I can remember.

[InitialDave]

I can't see this happening in the USA.

Nicholas Cage would've swooped in and stolen it just before they got into the room.