Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 5]

[Nethybridge]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

All these foreigners coming over here, contributing to the melting pot of our culture, eh?

Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Saturday 11th May 19:59

Someone's struggling when they bring up 2000 year old history, not many Romans stayed behind and raised families, but they these Northern European peoples, they integrated, learned a common language, became the Britons.

Turn the question round, what improvements, in any area of life
has uncontrolled mass immigration given the UK ?

[Sway]

Nethybridge said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

All these foreigners coming over here, contributing to the melting pot of our culture, eh?

Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Saturday 11th May 19:59

Someone's struggling when they bring up 2000 year old history, not many Romans stayed behind and raised families, but they these Northern European peoples, they integrated, learned a common language, became the Britons.

Turn the question round, what improvements, in any area of life
has uncontrolled mass immigration given the UK ?

The Empire, and docklands which created the economic might.

You think it's 2k years since the Romans, etc., but you're completely ignoring the centuries where dockyards and shipyards around the country were proper melting pots. Similar for the Dutch.

[NRG1976]

Take all that to the NPE and let’s keep this thread interesting please

[popeyewhite]

QED

[captain_cynic]

Dagnir said:

captain_cynic said:

Dagnir said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Dagnir said:

Why are so many British people actively working towards (or supporting) the destruction of Britain and its culture?


If you don't like our culture, that's up to you but why are so many in favour of its erosion....truly baffles me.

Are they though? Or is it just a certain segment of society who is convinced that they are? And which culture is it that "they" are destroying anyway? The rose-tinted 1950's one favoured by Daily Mail readers, I would imagine.

Maybe ask your question in the NP&E section, where they get all frothy and excited about such things.

That's a telling response in so many ways...

It is a telling response, but it's telling us more about you than CC. .

What exactly is being "destroyed" about British culture?

The UK has the 2nd most exported culture in the world. After the stars and stripes, the union flag is the most worn piece of clothing made from a nations flag. British dramas and comedies are known the world over. Countries like China would kill to get the power that British culture has, students from foreign lands are cutting their arms off to get into UK universities. We export arts, knowledge, institutions, humour and language. This isn't the hallmark of a culture under threat of destruction.

I'm willing to bet the culture you think is being destroyed never actually existed in the first place.

Most of your reply leaves me speechless and trying work out if it's satire or not.


I'm curious about what Cupcake's response says about me though - Would you mind enlightening me?

It's not satire... I'm genuinely asking the question.

I;m asking you to clarify your position...What part of British "Culture" is being destroyed?

When all other measures indicate that British culture is stronger than ever.

Edited by captain_cynic on Sunday 12th May 02:19

[Clockwork Cupcake]

popeyewhite said:

QED

What has been demonstrated?

(Genuine question)

[Pit Pony]

droopsnoot said:

This all goes back to the old proverb:

Man with watch always knows time.
Man with two watches never quite certain.

Man with Data Roaming (set to random) on holiday on the North East Coast of Corfu, hasn't got a clue. 5 mins ago, my phone said it was 8:35, and now it says 9:41.

Taxi comes at 12:50 to take us back to the airport. I've set a timer 2 hours 40mins from now in case my phone decides to adopt Albanian time again.

[Pit Pony]

Sway said:

Nethybridge said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

All these foreigners coming over here, contributing to the melting pot of our culture, eh?

Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Saturday 11th May 19:59

Someone's struggling when they bring up 2000 year old history, not many Romans stayed behind and raised families, but they these Northern European peoples, they integrated, learned a common language, became the Britons.

Turn the question round, what improvements, in any area of life
has uncontrolled mass immigration given the UK ?

The Empire, and docklands which created the economic might.

You think it's 2k years since the Romans, etc., but you're completely ignoring the centuries where dockyards and shipyards around the country were proper melting pots. Similar for the Dutch.

Do we count forced Slavery as immigration? Most were just passing through.

Bristol and Liverpool got some stunning buildings out of it.

As UB40 may have sung. I'm a British subject and proud of it, but I carry my burden of shame.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Pit Pony said:

Man with Data Roaming (set to random) on holiday on the North East Coast of Corfu, hasn't got a clue. 5 mins ago, my phone said it was 8:35, and now it says 9:41.

Taxi comes at 12:50 to take us back to the airport. I've set a timer 2 hours 40mins from now in case my phone decides to adopt Albanian time again.

Use the World Clock function of your phone.

Also, the minutes should be correct even if it is changing your timezone

[audi321]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Pit Pony said:

Man with Data Roaming (set to random) on holiday on the North East Coast of Corfu, hasn't got a clue. 5 mins ago, my phone said it was 8:35, and now it says 9:41.

Taxi comes at 12:50 to take us back to the airport. I've set a timer 2 hours 40mins from now in case my phone decides to adopt Albanian time again.

Use the World Clock function of your phone.

Also, the minutes should be correct even if it is changing your timezone

I always turn off automatic time updates for this very reason. I know where I’m going and I know what the time will be (ie +/- 3 hours etc) so just change it in the airport and I also find that helps with jet lag as my body can adjust on the plane to the new time upon landing.

[borcy]

Why do some commentators/speakers on YT speak quickly, almost blurring words into one?

It's not as bad as vicky pollard, but still it does seem a bit odd.

[Turtle Shed]

How come a new tube of toothpaste seems to get empty pretty quickly, but then you can squeeze out plenty of toothpaste for quite a number of days?

[Doofus]

Turtle Shed said:

How come a new tube of toothpaste seems to get empty pretty quickly, but then you can squeeze out plenty of toothpaste for quite a number of days?

Because they're designed to make you buy more, not to get your money's worth.

ETA, snip the tail end off and scrape out the dregs with your toothbrush. I didn't get where I am today without etc..

[StevieBee]

borcy said:

Why do some commentators/speakers on YT speak quickly, almost blurring words into one?

Because they are seldom professional / experienced presenters, professional video editors or rely on automated processes when editing. Or all of the above.

When nonprofessional presenters deliver something to camera (or mic), you get a lot of 'errs', long pauses and repeated words and other inflections that become obvious when you hear them in a recording. These can be removed from the timeline when editing using a technique that doesn't appear obvious on the visual part of the video (flow transition is one of the techniques but you can also cut away to another clip to hide the cut). But you still need to leave a little space to make the voice sound normal. Knowing how much comes from experience. The most extreme, deliberate example of this is the caveat statement you hear on radio adverts for financial services where the law states the need to include a statement that when spoken normally would take up half the advert.

Teleprompters can help but you'd be surprised at how difficult reading out loud can be because it needs to not look or sound like you're reading. I had to film a client last week deliver a short piece to camera. It took the best part of an hour to film a four minute film even though all they had to do was read what was on the screen.

Professional presenters and voice over artists are capable of delivering something that looks natural, flows nicely, without 'errs', pauses and other issues the non-professional would encounter.

[Alickadoo]

borcy said:

Why do some commentators/speakers on YT speak quickly, almost blurring words into one?

It's not as bad as vicky pollard, but still it does seem a bit odd.

StevieBee gives a technical answer, but for my two pennorth:-

They probably don't review the piece. They don't get independent advice.

They may speak with a strong regional accent, but because everybody around them speaks like that, they don't realise that to people from other parts of the country they can be difficult to understand.

The bloke from High Peak Autos is a good example of well presented, clear speech - even though he is a Northerner.

Conversely

'Rate My Takeaway', I realise it's meant to be a bit of fun, but, it is difficult to understand what he is saying- and
'Car UK' is about a car dealer and his trials and tribulations, enjoyable and interesting, but it would be a lot more enjoyable and more interesting, if he spoke slowly and clearly into the mic and didn't wave the camera about .

Edit
I have just watched a recent episode of 'Car UK' and it is much better than my memory told me. Speech much clearer.

Edited by Alickadoo on Monday 13th May 07:37

[droopsnoot]

StevieBee said:

Professional presenters and voice over artists are capable of delivering something that looks natural, flows nicely, without 'errs', pauses and other issues the non-professional would encounter.

This is the kind of response I'd like to be able to remember when people are "fumin" about whatever large salary some random TV or radio presenter has been revealed to be earning. "Anyone could do that", they'll say. No, they really can't - you only need to listen to most people picked at random in street interviews to realise that most cannot string a sentence together. That's not to say that all "professional" presenters are any good, there are many that are not, but it's really not just talking out loud.

[borcy]

https://www.youtube.com/@PerunAU

There's a few that do the fast speaking but this is the one I was watching last night that made me ask. I think he's an ozzie but I don't think it's just that. He speaks pretty quick, to me anyway.

[StevieBee]

droopsnoot said:

StevieBee said:

Professional presenters and voice over artists are capable of delivering something that looks natural, flows nicely, without 'errs', pauses and other issues the non-professional would encounter.

This is the kind of response I'd like to be able to remember when people are "fumin" about whatever large salary some random TV or radio presenter has been revealed to be earning. "Anyone could do that", they'll say. No, they really can't - you only need to listen to most people picked at random in street interviews to realise that most cannot string a sentence together. That's not to say that all "professional" presenters are any good, there are many that are not, but it's really not just talking out loud.

And don't forget that they'll often have someone in their ear telling them something at the same time.

Walking and Talking is a good measure of presenter quality. I'm not kidding.

Imagine a news story or documentary where the presenter is walking along a busy road or somewhere, where you can't use a teleprompter. They have to remember and deliver what is often quite a long bit of dialogue, in one go, whilst looking to the camera, walking along.

For anyone thinking they could do that - try it.

[Cotty]

StevieBee said:

borcy said:

Why do some commentators/speakers on YT speak quickly, almost blurring words into one?

Because they are seldom professional / experienced presenters, professional video editors or rely on automated processes when editing. Or all of the above.

When nonprofessional presenters deliver something to camera (or mic), you get a lot of 'errs', long pauses and repeated words and other inflections that become obvious when you hear them in a recording. These can be removed from the timeline when editing using a technique that doesn't appear obvious on the visual part of the video (flow transition is one of the techniques but you can also cut away to another clip to hide the cut). But you still need to leave a little space to make the voice sound normal. Knowing how much comes from experience. The most extreme, deliberate example of this is the caveat statement you hear on radio adverts for financial services where the law states the need to include a statement that when spoken normally would take up half the advert.

Some can't speak more than afew words without an err or a long pause and have thus edited out those bits so the video is contantly cutting every few seconds. It makes it unwatchable as their body position changes between cuts so is constantly jumping.

[StevieBee]

Cotty said:

StevieBee said:

borcy said:

Why do some commentators/speakers on YT speak quickly, almost blurring words into one?

Because they are seldom professional / experienced presenters, professional video editors or rely on automated processes when editing. Or all of the above.

When nonprofessional presenters deliver something to camera (or mic), you get a lot of 'errs', long pauses and repeated words and other inflections that become obvious when you hear them in a recording. These can be removed from the timeline when editing using a technique that doesn't appear obvious on the visual part of the video (flow transition is one of the techniques but you can also cut away to another clip to hide the cut). But you still need to leave a little space to make the voice sound normal. Knowing how much comes from experience. The most extreme, deliberate example of this is the caveat statement you hear on radio adverts for financial services where the law states the need to include a statement that when spoken normally would take up half the advert.

Some can't speak more than afew words without an err or a long pause and have thus edited out those bits so the video is contantly cutting every few seconds. It makes it unwatchable as their body position changes between cuts so is constantly jumping.

What pro-presenters do is keep their movements to a minimum. If a cut is needed in the edit, you apply a flow transition that blends the two new clips together in a way that masks the cut. If done right, it's imperceptible.

What's worse is when the presenter does as you describe and tries to apply a flow transition anyway. But because they're on their fourth Red Bull and jigging around, the transition makes them look like they're enduring some sort of shape-shifting episode.