The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 12)

[Frimley111R]

Odd that I was happy with a small loss in that game

[Boozy]

Cie said:

Forester1965 said:

No, it's supposed to drop it on the away fans.

Just can't hit anything on target these days

What’s telling to me and poignant to me, is the view from the other way. It has the Busby quote of “glory and honor” behind that waterfall. It couldn’t be further from the truth these days.

[Radec]

Is Old Trafford the only ground where the away team need a brolly indoors as well?

https://twitter.com/utdplug/status/178976456268361...

[G-wiz]

BBC article asking if this is the worst Utd team ever: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1vw...

[200Plus Club]

G-wiz said:

BBC article asking if this is the worst Utd team ever: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1vw...

Forgetting the one that got relegated from Division 1 of course, funny how the media work when it suits them lol.

[bstb3]

200Plus Club said:

Forgetting the one that got relegated from Division 1 of course, funny how the media work when it suits them lol.

Probably had it pre written expecting us to get a humping. Anything about us is fair game right now it seems - hated, adored etc.

We'll wipe that smirk off again soon(ish) then they can get back to complaining about us again.

[LF5335]

That’s a relief, looks like it’s only the second worst United team ever. Good job it didn’t cost much to assemble and maintain salary-wise, otherwise it really would be a disgrace.

[LF5335]

I wrote the two comments below on the 4th and 13th of April. The latter quote is the most telling for me. The power of positive thought really is misplaced with this United side. As it stands, unless we take something off Newcastle in midweek, then a 9th place finish is highly likely, possibly even 10th place (although that’s very unlikely). We’re relying on other teams Chelsea / Brighton to bugger it up a bit to keep us in 8th. I’d call that scrabbling to stay Top 10.

LF5335 said:

simon800 said:

Very favourable results for us this week, win tonight and we go within 6 points of Spurs and within 8 of Villa with a game in hand.

Spurs have got a nigh on impossible run coming up with Newcastle A, City & Arsenal H and Liverpool A. Villa have a more favourable run to the end of the season and we have a few tough matches to contend with. However, it all hangs on us winning all our matches during that period. With Chelsea tonight and Liverpool at the weekend, I think we’ll know where we’re at very soon. The teams in 7-12th spots aren’t that far behind if we have another duff couple of matches.

LF5335 said:

Gone a bit AMG said:

LF5335 said:

It’s a must win this evening after the Newcastle / Spurs result. Anything else and we’re scrabbling around to keep in the top 10 let alone Top 5

Every game is a must win. The spurs Newcastle result whilst amusing means we’ve a better chance of top four with a win today.

Top 10? Really? Scrabbling for top 10? ? Do you genuinely think these things?

We’ll smash Bournemouth this evening.

Do you genuinely believe these things that you write?

We are now 10 points adrift of the Top 5 in 7th place West Ham and Chelsea can overtake us with little effort.

Down to 9th

The team in 12th place is 8 points away currently. Another bad couple of games and they’ll be right on us.

But hey not to worry. We “smashed Bournemouth this evening” 2-2 and that was down to a very soft penalty in our favour.

[mickk]

G-wiz said:

Picture from the BBC earlier today. Is the roof designed to funnel rain water down like that?

United have missed a trick here, surely that should be collected ,bottled and sold in their club shop.

[simon800]

It was another completely invisible performance from Hojlund.

Chelsea paid half the amount for Jackson who has really come into his own the last few weeks. Big improvements needed from our lad without doubt.

[jgrewal]

Yesterday was the perfect embarrassment for Man United on the pitch and the stadium infrastructure. Could not have timed it better end of the season with Seb Coe and the future PM in presence to discuss the regeneration.

Nothing to say about ETH and this team as they have checked out. 1 win in 8 league games, -4GD and a record 19th defeats this season in all comps. He will stay because we cannot get anyone else of worthy value and least he can work with INEOS and carry on shifting the dross out.

[57Ford]

mickk said:

United have missed a trick here, surely that should be collected ,bottled and sold in their club shop.

They used to but Ineos have already spotted an improvement. Where do you think the drain runs to?

[simon800]

jgrewal said:

He will stay because we cannot get anyone else of worthy value and least he can work with INEOS and carry on shifting the dross out.

He bought the dross....

Of his signings I'd be happy if we sell;

Onana
Malacia
Eriksen
Casemiro
Mount
Antony

All fall into the dross category, all bought by our esteemed leader.

Reality is only ones with takers might be Eriksen on a free and Casemiro to Saudi. We are stuck with the rest.

Also worth remembering if Ten Hag had his way we'd have signed Amrabat permanently. £9mn to loan that clogger for 1 season is wild.

[Sycamore]

He tried to look hard and hyped up when coming on but instead looks like a baby straining for a st

[simon800]

There's a video doing the rounds of Antony having a hissy fit about being asked to go to left back.

McTominay has to go and drag him into position whilst he's having his meltdown, Antony then goes on to (presumably) complain about it by covering his mouth and whispering to the opposition player he's meant to be marking;

https://twitter.com/tenhagera/status/1789785172180...

He's clearly a complete , a really poor player, and a massive indictment on anyone involved in his signing. If he cost £20mn he'd still be st.

[SWoll]

simon800 said:

He bought the dross....

Of his signings I'd be happy if we sell;

Onana
Malacia
Eriksen
Casemiro
Mount
Antony

All fall into the dross category, all bought by our esteemed leader.

Reality is only ones with takers might be Eriksen on a free and Casemiro to Saudi. We are stuck with the rest.

Also worth remembering if Ten Hag had his way we'd have signed Amrabat permanently. £9mn to loan that clogger for 1 season is wild.

I'd suggest the best you can hope for is getting Casimero off the books for a decent fee from Saudi, and finally seeing the back of Martial and Varane. The rest are contracted for another 2/3/4 years so unlikely to go anywhere even if you want rid as who's going to buy them for enough to not leave you in an FFP black hole and pay their high wages?

Realistically your only option for a significant short term turnaround is a new manager who can get them playing, as ETH has shown he's incapable of doing so and has a terrible eye for talent in the transfer market.

[CLK-GTR]

simon800 said:

It was another completely invisible performance from Hojlund.

Chelsea paid half the amount for Jackson who has really come into his own the last few weeks. Big improvements needed from our lad without doubt.

He makes good runs and takes up good positions but nobody passes to him. Garnacho, Rashford, Antony, all our attackers prefer to dribble and run at players rather than play an early through ball. The signs are good but there will be no results until the players behind him start playing him in.

Reminds me a bit of the Van Persie quote from Ferguson that if you can't find him you won't play.

[simon800]

CLK-GTR said:

He makes good runs and takes up good positions but nobody passes to him. Garnacho, Rashford, Antony, all our attackers prefer to dribble and run at players rather than play an early through ball. The signs are good but there will be no results until the players behind him start playing him in.

Reminds me a bit of the Van Persie quote from Ferguson that if you can't find him you won't play.

I don't know, he seems to often make the complete wrong run to me, and doesn't make himself an option. We've seen quite a few times where the person making the right run to get into a scoring position is McTominay, rather than Hojlund.

At this stage I'm not 100% sure what it is he's good at or what his main strengths are. Not writing him off or anything before anyone gets upset.

The comparison to Jackson is an interesting one - they've had more injuries than us, have struggled for identity, have had changes in the team etc etc.

[bstb3]

CLK-GTR said:

Reminds me a bit of the Van Persie quote from Ferguson that if you can't find him you won't play.

This is the key to me. We need to instil in our wide players that their primary responsibility is creating opportunities, not trying to score themselves. Given the season we've had its not unusual players are doing their own thing and trying to be the hero, but it needs to stop. Garnacho is young enough, he will develop that, Antony to a degree also although the potential is much lower without a right foot... Rashford does try sometimes, but not reliably.

If we can get some proper attacking routines put together, where Hojlund can be sure what he has to do and confident if he does it the ball has a good chance of coming it will make a big difference. Right now he doesn't know where to run, often because (to me it looks like) he can't predict what the wingers will do. There needs then to be consequences when those patterns are not followed.

Coaching.

[GTO-3R]

simon800 said:

It was another completely invisible performance from Hojlund.

Chelsea paid half the amount for Jackson who has really come into his own the last few weeks. Big improvements needed from our lad without doubt.

Really? Maybe go to a game mate and you'll see the complete lack of service to him. I was watching him closely yesterday and he was making a lot of good runs but is completely isolated with ZERO service from anyone in the team. It's any wonder we can't score goals when we don't use our striker.