Grand Prix Winners together on the F1 grid

Grand Prix Winners together on the F1 grid

Author
Discussion

Supersam83

Original Poster:

649 posts

146 months

Thursday 9th May
quotequote all
Lando has become the newest first time F1 Grand Prix winner with his win in Miami.

At the next Grand Prix in Imola, there will be a total of 12 Grand Prix winners on the grid together.

12 drivers out of 20 is 60% which I believe is quite high.

Is this the highest number of Grand Prix winners on the grid competing at the same time?

Common Porpoise

699 posts

171 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
There was a post by Goodwood on Facebook a few days ago about the 1979 grid where juet about every driver was s winner

SoulGlo

96 posts

32 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
Common Porpoise said:
There was a post by Goodwood on Facebook a few days ago about the 1979 grid where juet about every driver was s winner
Looking quickly at the drivers list some of those would be future GP winners I think.

I don't know the stats to work out which ones were already GP winners at that point in 1979. rotate


MCBrowncoat

906 posts

147 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
I'd be willing to bet this was true, because 1) drivers have much longer careers now, and 2) the grid is much more stable now

My first thought was 2012, but (I think) that only got to 50% (that was the year there were 8 winners in the first 8 races)

I was actually thinking of spending some time working this out, after all, it's not hard to build up a list of all the winners since 1950.

However, I've decided I can't be arsed because of point 2 above - in the past you would have had a lot more drivers coming and going during the season what with pay drivers, pre qualifying, teams folding, and changing grid sizes etc, so building up that list of who was actually ON THE GRID for a GP start would be trickier.

If you got to the point of having the data organised it would be a PoP to work out from there though. Be interested if someone here puts in the effort to do that. Please note: my expected output would be a graph of the percentage tracked over time by year/race number laugh

Love this stuff!

Zetec-S

5,938 posts

94 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
Someone mention this to Crofty, maybe he can bring it up instead of telling us how many days it's been since Alonso's last pole wobble

thegreenhell

15,562 posts

220 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
You could also add Piastri as a sprint race winner and call it 12.5 out of 20.

gshughes

1,283 posts

256 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
Also interesting is the number of world champions on the grid at any one time. Currently three, but in the recent past has been quite a a bit higher.

I'm thinking 2012 must be up there with 6 - Schumacher, Hamilton, Button, Alonso, Räikkönen and Vettel, any advance on that?

Supersam83

Original Poster:

649 posts

146 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
List of the 12 F1 GP winners on the grid:

Max Verstappen
Sergio Perez
Lewis Hamilton
George Russell
Charles Leclerc
Carlos Sainz Jr
Pierre Gasly
Esteban Ocon
Fernando Alonso
Valtteri Bottas
Daniel Riccardo
Lando Norris

Only the Haas and Williams teams have drivers who haven't won an F1 GP race.

asfault

12,306 posts

180 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
MCBrowncoat said:
I'd be willing to bet this was true, because 1) drivers have much longer careers now, and 2) the grid is much more stable now

My first thought was 2012, but (I think) that only got to 50% (that was the year there were 8 winners in the first 8 races)

I was actually thinking of spending some time working this out, after all, it's not hard to build up a list of all the winners since 1950.

However, I've decided I can't be arsed because of point 2 above - in the past you would have had a lot more drivers coming and going during the season what with pay drivers, pre qualifying, teams folding, and changing grid sizes etc, so building up that list of who was actually ON THE GRID for a GP start would be trickier.

If you got to the point of having the data organised it would be a PoP to work out from there though. Be interested if someone here puts in the effort to do that. Please note: my expected output would be a graph of the percentage tracked over time by year/race number laugh

Love this stuff!
Modern reliability has probably made it a bit harder for a lower driver to score a win. Max and the redbull have effectively blocked lando from many earier opportunities that in an earlier era would likely have created more random chance of a big engine blowout.

TO73074E

423 posts

28 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
The 1978 Belgian and Spanish Grands Prix each had 15 race winners enter:

Mario Andretti, Vittorio Brambilla, Patrick Depailler, Emerson Fittipaldi, James Hunt, Jacky Ickx, Alan Jones, Jacques Laffite, Niki Lauda, Jochen Mass, Ronnie Peterson, Clay Regazzoni, Carlos Reutemann, Jody Scheckter, and John Watson.

Depailler had won his first race immediately before, in Monaco, and Ickx did not qualify for any more races after Spain this year (he only entered four F1 races in the entire year).

gshughes

1,283 posts

256 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
TO73074E said:
The 1978 Belgian and Spanish Grands Prix each had 15 race winners.
Grids were much bigger in those days though, so it is probably a lower percentage than the current 12?

MCBrowncoat

906 posts

147 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
gshughes said:
TO73074E said:
The 1978 Belgian and Spanish Grands Prix each had 15 race winners.
Grids were much bigger in those days though, so it is probably a lower percentage than the current 12?
Looks like 24 started the Belgian GP (four failed to pre-qualify), which would be 62.5%

Spanish GP also 24 starters (this time 5 failed to pre-qualify)

Good find

CanAm

9,297 posts

273 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
gshughes said:
Also interesting is the number of world champions on the grid at any one time. Currently three, but in the recent past has been quite a a bit higher.

I'm thinking 2012 must be up there with 6 - Schumacher, Hamilton, Button, Alonso, Räikkönen and Vettel, any advance on that?
Close in 1966 with 5; Brabham, Hill P, Hill G, Clark & Surtees.

ajprice

27,676 posts

197 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
Was 2022 the highest number of championships won by drivers on the grid? Verstappen had 1 at the time, Hamilton 7, Vettel 4, Alonso 2, so 14 championships on the grid.

sidewinder500

1,186 posts

95 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
1970 had also six World Champions, if you include Jochen Rindt...

CanAm

9,297 posts

273 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
sidewinder500 said:
1970 had also six World Champions, if you include Jochen Rindt...
There were still 3(?) races after the fateful Italian GP and he was declared Champion posthumously.

the-norseman

12,534 posts

172 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
ajprice said:
Was 2022 the highest number of championships won by drivers on the grid? Verstappen had 1 at the time, Hamilton 7, Vettel 4, Alonso 2, so 14 championships on the grid.
2012 had the same, Vettel 2 (3 at the end of the season), Schumacher 7, Button 1, Hamilton 1, Alonso 2, Kimi 1.

hot metal

1,945 posts

194 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
Common Porpoise said:
There was a post by Goodwood on Facebook a few days ago about the 1979 grid where juet about every driver was s winner
At the Argentine GP in 1979, first race, 12 of the 26 starters were race winners ,I believe.

sidewinder500

1,186 posts

95 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
TO73074E said:
The 1978 Belgian and Spanish Grands Prix each had 15 race winners
As for a season you have 15 race winners in 1985 and 16 in 1982 and 1979, and 17 in 1980 and 1977

Edited by sidewinder500 on Friday 10th May 22:43

CanAm

9,297 posts

273 months

Friday 10th May
quotequote all
gshughes said:
Also interesting is the number of world champions on the grid at any one time. Currently three, but in the recent past has been quite a a bit higher.

I'm thinking 2012 must be up there with 6 - Schumacher, Hamilton, Button, Alonso, Räikkönen and Vettel, any advance on that?
Or how about the 1959 season, without a single World Champion in the field?