Daniel Ricciardo

[nordboy]

thegreenhell said:

If he keeps his seat it's because the team thinks he deserves to keep his seat. What some internet randoms think is irrelevant.

Deserves due to results and performance, or deserve due to the media presence and publicity he brings?

[thegreenhell]

nordboy said:

thegreenhell said:

If he keeps his seat it's because the team thinks he deserves to keep his seat. What some internet randoms think is irrelevant.

Deserves due to results and performance, or deserve due to the media presence and publicity he brings?

That's for the team to decide.

[CoolHands]

thegreenhell said:

nordboy said:

thegreenhell said:

If he keeps his seat it's because the team thinks he deserves to keep his seat. What some internet randoms think is irrelevant.

Deserves due to results and performance, or deserve due to the media presence and publicity he brings?

That's for the team to decide.

Genius

[Sandpit Steve]

nordboy said:

thegreenhell said:

If he keeps his seat it's because the team thinks he deserves to keep his seat. What some internet randoms think is irrelevant.

Deserves due to results and performance, or deserve due to the media presence and publicity he brings?

Plenty of F1 driver selections are based primarily on results and performance, while plenty of others are based primarily on sponsorship, media, and publicity - especially away from the sharp end of the grid.

[Forester1965]

Liberty will love Ricciardo because he drives engagement online better than he does cars on tracks. Think he's the 4th or 5th largest on Instagram.

[ajprice]

RB are in a similar situation to Aston Martin, with one driver getting most of their points. RB should be well clear of Haas and close to Aston Martin, but Aston should be even with Mercedes. The 5 points Riccardo has makes the situation look better for him now when Tsunoda has 14, but it's his only points result this season. I think Lawson would have scored more by now. With the gap to Aston Martin, they might be thinking they'd be 6th anyway with or without Riccardo, so leave him in the seat and get more promotion with him, but there hasn't been much 'happy Daniel' this year.

[rallycross]

Another race weekend and another zero points scored by DR when his team mate did score.
What happened in his race at Imola did he fall asleep again or was there a problem?

[nnnitram]

There was no problem (although I'm sure Danny will invent another mysterious mechanical problem soon). Danny was slow all weekend. He was extremely lucky to get to Q3, thanks to Perez bottling his lap. Yuki also made a mistake in Q3 after being blisteringly fast all weekend. The gap between them should have been even bigger.

Danny was also lucky that he was at Imola where it's nearly impossible to pass, although he did manage to lose 4 positions, more than anyone else in the race other than retirees.

[suffolk009]

I think what might be saving Danny this season is that Dr Marko will be worrying much more about who to put in Perez' seat.

[PRO5T]

suffolk009 said:

I think what might be saving Danny this season is that Dr Marko will be worrying much more about who to put in Perez' seat.

What’s going on behind the scenes? Is Marko in a position of control to change any of the red bull seats or has Horney wrestled control of that?

[Hustle_]

Supposedly the Verstappens leave if Marko leaves so the old man still has a certain amount of leverage. Horner has appeared to call the Verstappen's bluff though. Whole thing is fascinating!

[Purosangue]

suffolk009 said:

I think what might be saving Danny this season is that Dr Marko will be worrying much more about who to put in Perez' Verstappen's seat.

fixed that for you

[TheDeuce]

Purosangue said:

suffolk009 said:

I think what might be saving Danny this season is that Dr Marko will be worrying much more about who to put in Perez' Verstappen's seat.

fixed that for you

Well, by all accounts if Max does leave (I think he's bound to), then Marko is down and out too. He won't care about either seat anymore.

Jesus, in that scenario DR could find his way back to a seat there for no other reason than them wanting something, anything positive, and social media friendly to occur. Stranger things have happened in F1!

[Sandpit Steve]

TheDeuce said:

Purosangue said:

suffolk009 said:

I think what might be saving Danny this season is that Dr Marko will be worrying much more about who to put in Perez' Verstappen's seat.

fixed that for you

Well, by all accounts if Max does leave (I think he's bound to), then Marko is down and out too. He won't care about either seat anymore.

Jesus, in that scenario DR could find his way back to a seat there for no other reason than them wanting something, anything positive, and social media friendly to occur. Stranger things have happened in F1!

The whole team seems to be totally paralysed by the aftermath of Mateschitz’s passing, with several factions fighting for control of various parts of the company.

I reckon Verstappen has an offer from Toto, and that’s what’s holding up the whole silly season at the top teams while he decides what to do. His decision won’t have been made any easier by what appear to be car performance issues in the last couple of races, and it’s now not going to be the totally dominant season we were expecting only a month ago.

[dobly]

Would be good to see both Danny Ric & Liam Lawson in RB cars in future, along side ? & Yuki when Max jumps the sinking ship?

Edited by dobly on Wednesday 22 May 11:15

[TheDeuce]

Sandpit Steve said:

TheDeuce said:

Purosangue said:

suffolk009 said:

I think what might be saving Danny this season is that Dr Marko will be worrying much more about who to put in Perez' Verstappen's seat.

fixed that for you

Well, by all accounts if Max does leave (I think he's bound to), then Marko is down and out too. He won't care about either seat anymore.

Jesus, in that scenario DR could find his way back to a seat there for no other reason than them wanting something, anything positive, and social media friendly to occur. Stranger things have happened in F1!

The whole team seems to be totally paralysed by the aftermath of Mateschitz’s passing, with several factions fighting for control of various parts of the company.

I reckon Verstappen has an offer from Toto, and that’s what’s holding up the whole silly season at the top teams while he decides what to do. His decision won’t have been made any easier by what appear to be car performance issues in the last couple of races, and it’s now not going to be the totally dominant season we were expecting only a month ago.

I'm not yet convinced what we've seen in the last couple of races is going to remain typical for this season - although I hope so..

But I do think that looking forward, RBR have a number of problems. Their 2026 PU is going to be a challenge as it's the first from their new in house team and the fledgling partnership with Ford. I also think it's very likely RBR updates and development moving forwards will suffer from the loss of Newey and elsewhere the upgrades from as early as next season could start to benefit from his involvement.

And who knows what other aspects of team performance and harmony are disrupted to an extent by whatever politics are going on behind the scenes.

So I can easily imagine Max leaving, probably not for next season unless he gets an outstanding offer and is convinced the other team have something tangible... But definitely for 2026. RBR 2026 onwards seems like a poor bet in terms of having the best car.

[Tripe Bypass]

TheDeuce said:

I'm not yet convinced what we've seen in the last couple of races is going to remain typical for this season - although I hope so..

But I do think that looking forward, RBR have a number of problems. Their 2026 PU is going to be a challenge as it's the first from their new in house team and the fledgling partnership with Ford. I also think it's very likely RBR updates and development moving forwards will suffer from the loss of Newey and elsewhere the upgrades from as early as next season could start to benefit from his involvement.

And who knows what other aspects of team performance and harmony are disrupted to an extent by whatever politics are going on behind the scenes.

So I can easily imagine Max leaving, probably not for next season unless he gets an outstanding offer and is convinced the other team have something tangible... But definitely for 2026. RBR 2026 onwards seems like a poor bet in terms of having the best car.

In a parallel universe, it's Hamilton and Verstappen in a Newey Ferrari for '26.

Imagine how dull that wouldn't be?...

[TheDeuce]

Tripe Bypass said:

TheDeuce said:

I'm not yet convinced what we've seen in the last couple of races is going to remain typical for this season - although I hope so..

But I do think that looking forward, RBR have a number of problems. Their 2026 PU is going to be a challenge as it's the first from their new in house team and the fledgling partnership with Ford. I also think it's very likely RBR updates and development moving forwards will suffer from the loss of Newey and elsewhere the upgrades from as early as next season could start to benefit from his involvement.

And who knows what other aspects of team performance and harmony are disrupted to an extent by whatever politics are going on behind the scenes.

So I can easily imagine Max leaving, probably not for next season unless he gets an outstanding offer and is convinced the other team have something tangible... But definitely for 2026. RBR 2026 onwards seems like a poor bet in terms of having the best car.

In a parallel universe, it's Hamilton and Verstappen in a Newey Ferrari for '26.

Imagine how dull that wouldn't be?...

Honestly that would do my head in I think - whatever happened it wouldn't be fair and reasonable!

Although, it would be quite a spectacle