Lewis Hamilton to Ferrari

Lewis Hamilton to Ferrari

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Bo_apex

2,586 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th March
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520TORQUES said:
Bo_apex said:
the GOAT rofl
It's too easy. biggrin

But on paper, he is. Wont be for long with 500 races a year though. biggrin
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only 500 ?

Max, Horner, Newey to Ferrari in '26.

Ooooopps
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HighwayStar

4,336 posts

145 months

Thursday 7th March
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paulguitar said:
HighwayStar said:
laughing with his mates.
'Mates', you say?
I knew someone would say that the moment I even thought of saying it. Benefit of doubt was given. wink

nickfrog

21,306 posts

218 months

Thursday 7th March
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carlo996 said:
All the really cool drivers have had a sabbatical. Unlike old man Hamilton, Max is still a young man..he can pick and choose.
You probably need to let go of your obsession with LH. You also probably need to stop trolling while you're at it.
Just let go, relax. If you can.

Misanthroper

112 posts

33 months

Friday 8th March
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I think Hamilton left it 5 years too late, he struggles to compete with Russell in similar machinery and has been off the pace for a couple years now, why do Ferrari believe that another year older he’ll be any quicker?

This is purely business, there are better drivers they could have chosen from, I’d put Sainz above Hamilton these days, I can see it being a bit of an embarrassment next season.

paulguitar

23,776 posts

114 months

Friday 8th March
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Misanthroper said:
I think Hamilton left it 5 years too late, he struggles to compete with Russell in similar machinery and has been off the pace for a couple years now, why do Ferrari believe that another year older he’ll be any quicker?

This is purely business, there are better drivers they could have chosen from, I’d put Sainz above Hamilton these days, I can see it being a bit of an embarrassment next season.
He beat Russell in the WDC last season by a significant margin.



RGG

279 posts

18 months

Friday 8th March
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paulguitar said:
Misanthroper said:
I think Hamilton left it 5 years too late, he struggles to compete with Russell in similar machinery and has been off the pace for a couple years now, why do Ferrari believe that another year older he’ll be any quicker?

This is purely business, there are better drivers they could have chosen from, I’d put Sainz above Hamilton these days, I can see it being a bit of an embarrassment next season.
He beat Russell in the WDC last season by a significant margin.
Wasn't LH doing most of the testing with the dire car in GR's first year?

RB Will

9,672 posts

241 months

Friday 8th March
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Back to the old people skydiving. This month’s Top Gear mag has just been delivered and they have a feature on some old F1 bloke doing it


Misanthroper

112 posts

33 months

Sunday 10th March
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paulguitar said:
He beat Russell in the WDC last season by a significant margin.
True, but if we take the three most recent performances Hamilton gets beaten in all of them, I think he’s been a great driver but he’s not up there anymore and is quicker to make an excuse than he is driving an f1 car.

Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.

paulguitar

23,776 posts

114 months

Sunday 10th March
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Misanthroper said:
paulguitar said:
He beat Russell in the WDC last season by a significant margin.
True, but if we take the three most recent performances Hamilton gets beaten in all of them, I think he’s been a great driver but he’s not up there anymore and is quicker to make an excuse than he is driving an f1 car.
Do you mean the first two races of this season? Let's give it a bit more time before writing off the most successful driver in history, eh? And I hear honest straightforward answers to questions from him, rather than excuses. They are having problems with their car, it would be dishonest to pretend all is perfect.

Misanthroper said:
Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.
I very, very much doubt that.



thegreenhell

15,565 posts

220 months

Sunday 10th March
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Misanthroper said:
Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.
Most young rookies start on about £1m or less in their first year. One third of Hamilton's reported salary would put him on more than Leclerc, and almost everyone else on the grid.

Muzzer79

10,143 posts

188 months

Sunday 10th March
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Misanthroper said:
Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.
Why is it that a kid has one good race and people immediately leap to suggest that he’s more use than a 7 time world champion?

These pages were the same when Russell stood in for Hamilton in 2020 - suggestions that Mercedes should just drop Hamilton and put Russell in rolleyes

Bearman did well, considering the circumstances. Putting him in for next year is the equivalent of dropping Lionel Messi because the 18 year old academy kid scored one goal in the last game.



Pueblo

25 posts

7 months

Sunday 10th March
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Misanthroper said:
True, but if we take the three most recent performances Hamilton gets beaten in all of them, I think he’s been a great driver but he’s not up there anymore and is quicker to make an excuse than he is driving an f1 car.

Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.
If that is true (which it is) why do you not say oppps I was wrong, instead you desperately try to double down with the above.

C5_Steve

3,299 posts

104 months

Monday 11th March
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Muzzer79 said:
Misanthroper said:
Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.
Why is it that a kid has one good race and people immediately leap to suggest that he’s more use than a 7 time world champion?

These pages were the same when Russell stood in for Hamilton in 2020 - suggestions that Mercedes should just drop Hamilton and put Russell in rolleyes

Bearman did well, considering the circumstances. Putting him in for next year is the equivalent of dropping Lionel Messi because the 18 year old academy kid scored one goal in the last game.
Let's all cast our minds back to Nyck de Vries' debut and all the plaudits piled upon him and what happened after that when he got an actual seat full time as well.....

I'm not criticising de Vries or Bearman, I think they both did exceptionally well. It was great watching Bearman hammer the Ferrari around and seeing his Dad's reactions was priceless. But I agree, as soon as someone has a good race this constant obsession with then saying an older driver is done or washed up is laughable. Russell is clearly doing really well at getting the most out of the car in quali but I've yet to see him do much in the race, either overtaking or defending. There's obviously more performance in the car, let's wait and see what happens.

Bo_apex

2,586 posts

219 months

Monday 11th March
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Muzzer79 said:
Misanthroper said:
Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.
Why is it that a kid has one good race and people immediately leap to suggest that he’s more use than a 7 time world champion?

These pages were the same when Russell stood in for Hamilton in 2020 - suggestions that Mercedes should just drop Hamilton and put Russell in rolleyes

Bearman did well, considering the circumstances. Putting him in for next year is the equivalent of dropping Lionel Messi because the 18 year old academy kid scored one goal in the last game.
We attended the recent London Football Awards and the wise old fox Harry Redknapp said "Age doesn't matter, if they're good enough you put them in the team"


Muzzer79

10,143 posts

188 months

Monday 11th March
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Bo_apex said:
Muzzer79 said:
Misanthroper said:
Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.
Why is it that a kid has one good race and people immediately leap to suggest that he’s more use than a 7 time world champion?

These pages were the same when Russell stood in for Hamilton in 2020 - suggestions that Mercedes should just drop Hamilton and put Russell in rolleyes

Bearman did well, considering the circumstances. Putting him in for next year is the equivalent of dropping Lionel Messi because the 18 year old academy kid scored one goal in the last game.
We attended the recent London Football Awards and the wise old fox Harry Redknapp said "Age doesn't matter, if they're good enough you put them in the team"
I completely agree. Age is not the issue

The issue is to suggest that Ferrari abandon their plans to sign (like him or not) the most successful Grand Prix driver of all time to instead take a rookie who has driven one race - it's utterly bizarre.

Bearman did very well and I was rooting for him. However, he did not set the world alight and certainly didn't do enough to take a race seat at Ferrari. If he was that good, they'd move Sainz aside now.


Cabinet Enforcer

500 posts

227 months

Monday 11th March
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I for one hope that Lewis grinds out his career for at least 3 years too long, absolutely coining it in while trundling round at the back of the grid in one of the best cars.

The collective shortening of life due to rage induced blood pressure amongst all those who hate him so much would be entirely worth it.

Hustle_

24,772 posts

161 months

Monday 11th March
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C5_Steve said:
Muzzer79 said:
Misanthroper said:
Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.
Why is it that a kid has one good race and people immediately leap to suggest that he’s more use than a 7 time world champion?

These pages were the same when Russell stood in for Hamilton in 2020 - suggestions that Mercedes should just drop Hamilton and put Russell in rolleyes

Bearman did well, considering the circumstances. Putting him in for next year is the equivalent of dropping Lionel Messi because the 18 year old academy kid scored one goal in the last game.
Let's all cast our minds back to Nyck de Vries' debut and all the plaudits piled upon him and what happened after that when he got an actual seat full time as well.....

I'm not criticising de Vries or Bearman, I think they both did exceptionally well. It was great watching Bearman hammer the Ferrari around and seeing his Dad's reactions was priceless. But I agree, as soon as someone has a good race this constant obsession with then saying an older driver is done or washed up is laughable. Russell is clearly doing really well at getting the most out of the car in quali but I've yet to see him do much in the race, either overtaking or defending. There's obviously more performance in the car, let's wait and see what happens.
Yep the de Vries comparison is the point isn't it. One 8th(?) place in a stand-in drive in a fast Williams at Monza and he was given a shot in Alpha Tauri. He fell so far short of expectations there. Ferrari don't have their own Alpha Tauri and they are not known for taking punts on rookies.

honda_exige

6,068 posts

207 months

Monday 11th March
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Misanthroper said:
True, but if we take the three most recent performances Hamilton gets beaten in all of them, I think he’s been a great driver but he’s not up there anymore and is quicker to make an excuse than he is driving an f1 car.

Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.
Think the most surprising thing about this comment is you think Ferrari would pay Bearman 1/3rd of Hamiltons salary! Would be barely 2%.

re33

270 posts

165 months

Monday 11th March
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Bearman done a good job given the circumstances but being 0.5 seconds off your teammate in qualifying is not fast enough. The circumstances made it difficult but have also given him a bit of slack. Finishing 7th in the 2nd fastest car isn't amazing either. He might well deserve a drive in F1 but not sure this drive proves it either way.

Back on topic, it's starting to look like Hamilton is making the right move next year. Ferrari have made progress while Mercedes seem lost.

Bo_apex

2,586 posts

219 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Muzzer79 said:
Bo_apex said:
Muzzer79 said:
Misanthroper said:
Be interesting to see how he does, maybe he proves me wrong, though I wonder if Ferrari are thinking maybe they should have spent about a third of his salary and gone with Bearman next season instead.
Why is it that a kid has one good race and people immediately leap to suggest that he’s more use than a 7 time world champion?

These pages were the same when Russell stood in for Hamilton in 2020 - suggestions that Mercedes should just drop Hamilton and put Russell in rolleyes

Bearman did well, considering the circumstances. Putting him in for next year is the equivalent of dropping Lionel Messi because the 18 year old academy kid scored one goal in the last game.
We attended the recent London Football Awards and the wise old fox Harry Redknapp said "Age doesn't matter, if they're good enough you put them in the team"
I completely agree. Age is not the issue

The issue is to suggest that Ferrari abandon their plans to sign (like him or not) the most successful Grand Prix driver of all time to instead take a rookie who has driven one race - it's utterly bizarre.

Bearman did very well and I was rooting for him. However, he did not set the world alight and certainly didn't do enough to take a race seat at Ferrari. If he was that good, they'd move Sainz aside now.
While Sainz is recovering post-op ?

Maybe if Enzo himself was still running the team
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