Official 2024 Chinese Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Tuesday 16th April

White-Noise said:

Derek Smith said:

White-Noise said:

One thing I would watch is a single make road car race with all drivers or a kart race. It's not f1 but it would be entertaining.

I once saw the team managers racing Escort Mexicos at Brands Hatch one year. I think it was a BRSCC event. I was entertaining. The final lap was a thriller, around Clearways. Williams, Brabham and Chapman, Surtees.

Just found it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BOsesJGqs , 24 Oct 1971. Brilliant commentary.

The event was overshadowed by the death of Jo Siffert.

Thanks for sharing that Derek. Never seen that one before, Chapman was robbed! Mosley was a name I didn't expect to hear.

My suggestions above aren't serious ones but that sort of stuff and the link above I would like to see and are interesting and exciting.

The grin on Chapmans face with that 'tash.... brilliant.

Note the photographer standing on the inside of clearways as they hit the clipping point... scarry!!!

Smollet

10,667 posts

191 months

Tuesday 16th April

Derek Smith said:

I once saw the team managers racing Escort Mexicos at Brands Hatch one year. I think it was a BRSCC event. I was entertaining. The final lap was a thriller, around Clearways. Williams, Brabham and Chapman, Surtees.

Just found it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BOsesJGqs , 24 Oct 1971. Brilliant commentary.

The event was overshadowed by the death of Jo Siffert.

I was there at Druids and remember seeing the pall of smoke from Jo's death. Very sad

richhead

956 posts

12 months

Tuesday 16th April

Derek Smith said:

I once saw the team managers racing Escort Mexicos at Brands Hatch one year. I think it was a BRSCC event. I was entertaining. The final lap was a thriller, around Clearways. Williams, Brabham and Chapman, Surtees.

Just found it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BOsesJGqs , 24 Oct 1971. Brilliant commentary.

The event was overshadowed by the death of Jo Siffert.

Brilliant, so many legends

Derek Smith

45,806 posts

249 months

Tuesday 16th April

Smollet said:

Derek Smith said:

I once saw the team managers racing Escort Mexicos at Brands Hatch one year. I think it was a BRSCC event. I was entertaining. The final lap was a thriller, around Clearways. Williams, Brabham and Chapman, Surtees.

Just found it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BOsesJGqs , 24 Oct 1971. Brilliant commentary.

The event was overshadowed by the death of Jo Siffert.

I was there at Druids and remember seeing the pall of smoke from Jo's death. Very sad

I was at Clearways. I didn't see all that much smoke, although the smell came through. I was shocked when I saw the images of damage and the fire. You probably remember those times, when there were few marshals and a fire normally meant severe injuries or death. That's without the faulty safety gear. I was at South Bank, up against the fence, when Chris Kraft had a big accident, in a Cortina I think, and a fire started. The marshals were quickly on scene, although it always seems longer to viewers, and even longer for the drivers, I bet. However, they sprayed the fire with a couple of different concoctions and the smell was so pungent that my friend and I had to move away. There was chunks of stuff in the air. No problem with just moving the crowd, but the marshals were all coughing as well. They had no breathing apparatus that I could see, and every time they got near, they had coughing fits. A couple managed to get up to the car. God knows what their lungs were like.

And Motor Sport magazine criticised Jackie Stewart for pushing for safety, and very low levels of improvement. I didn't renew my subscription. That showed 'em.

60,736 posts

218 months

Wednesday 17th April

richhead said:

Derek Smith said:

I once saw the team managers racing Escort Mexicos at Brands Hatch one year. I think it was a BRSCC event. I was entertaining. The final lap was a thriller, around Clearways. Williams, Brabham and Chapman, Surtees.

Just found it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BOsesJGqs , 24 Oct 1971. Brilliant commentary.

The event was overshadowed by the death of Jo Siffert.

Brilliant, so many legends

Good find, properly entertaining

60,736 posts

218 months

Wednesday 17th April

Here's a thought. If they ran that now - where would we see the current bunch of F1 team principles?

thegreenhell

15,564 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th April

Byker28i said:

Here's a thought. If they ran that now - where would we see the current bunch of F1 team principles?

Horner and Wolff are the only two with any race driving background. The others all seem to be professional engineers and managers rather than racers, so I would expect those two to be out front, probably crashing into each other.

n3il123

2,611 posts

214 months

Wednesday 17th April

thegreenhell said:

Byker28i said:

Here's a thought. If they ran that now - where would we see the current bunch of F1 team principles?

Horner and Wolff are the only two with any race driving background. The others all seem to be professional engineers and managers rather than racers, so I would expect those two to be out front, probably crashing into each other.

I'm sure I have seen a Williams video of James Vowles doing some track driving as well.

suffolk009

5,484 posts

166 months

Wednesday 17th April

thegreenhell said:

Horner and Wolff are the only two with any race driving background. The others all seem to be professional engineers and managers rather than racers, so I would expect those two to be out front, probably crashing into each other.

Ahe, Zak Brown?

thegreenhell

15,564 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th April

suffolk009 said:

Ahe, Zak Brown?

He's not a Team Principal. Andrea Stella is McLaren TP.

Murghee

1,998 posts

63 months

Wednesday 17th April

Just watched a reply of the 2018 gp and boy was it exciting.

Makes me think that danny ric should have stayed at red bull and ignored the politics. Would have been sparks between him and max especially when the car improved a few years later

Aids0G

510 posts

150 months

Wednesday 17th April

Little un-related but the 1.2km straight in China is going to be by the gossip circulating the media a big challenge for the 2026 powertrain reg's.

They were discussing the 2026 regs on The Intercooler podcast this week and apparently there is genuine concern that the cars will be unable to provide peak power for a full lap of the majority of circuits.

Does anyone have any more info on the regs and development progress? all seems a bit concerning, is it to late for the FIA to tweak the regs?

RichB

51,740 posts

285 months

Wednesday 17th April

Aids0G said:

<clip> apparently there is genuine concern that the cars will be unable to provide peak power for a full lap of the majority of circuits...

Quite pathetic isn't it. Meant to be the pinnacle of motor racing. laugh

Races will be dictated by tyres and recharging laps. rolleyes

PhilAsia

3,893 posts

76 months

Wednesday 17th April

RichB said:

Aids0G said:

<clip> apparently there is genuine concern that the cars will be unable to provide peak power for a full lap of the majority of circuits...

Quite pathetic isn't it. Meant to be the pinnacle of motor racing. laugh

Races will be dictated by tyres and recharging laps. rolleyes

Spa '21 somewhat revisited... Strewth!!

60,736 posts

218 months

Wednesday 17th April

n3il123 said:

thegreenhell said:

Byker28i said:

Here's a thought. If they ran that now - where would we see the current bunch of F1 team principles?

Horner and Wolff are the only two with any race driving background. The others all seem to be professional engineers and managers rather than racers, so I would expect those two to be out front, probably crashing into each other.

I'm sure I have seen a Williams video of James Vowles doing some track driving as well.

I may have competed in a karting race against Williams engineers and Vowles, (and Jordon, Brawn back in the day) Most seemed quite competent race drivers, but then they had the interest...

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218 months