Adrian Newey to Ferrari? Is it possible?

Adrian Newey to Ferrari? Is it possible?

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TheDeuce

22,055 posts

67 months

Sunday 12th May
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Big Nanas said:
TheDeuce said:
From my experience it's about holding onto an overall design direction and also keeping tabs on what the teams are developing and what is worth committing too and what needs to be sacked off.

There has to be one person with a solid vision that can direct the efforts of everyone else.
Which begs the question, is he taking some of his team from RB? Has anything been reported re this? Otherwise
it'll be a challenge directing an Italian design team on a part time basis.

It'll be interesting to see what happens.
I don't think he needs to take people over from one team to another to be effective at his role, but I do tend to agree that history tells us that the British influence at Ferrari is either wasted or needs to be totally accepted 100%, as it was during the MS years of dominance - also Ferrari's last period of success.

When I work in Italy with Italian crew, we hire an Italian production company to coordinate their efforts with our own production, because direct control is next to impossible. Take from that what you will!

As for RBR staff leaving in general, quite possibly for Ferrari.. Zak Brown said McLaren had seen a number of RBR guys looking for new work, it stands to reason the other top teams have seen the same interest.

Assuming Newey is Ferrari bound, then it's essentially upto the Italians how much they take advantage of him and Lewis and whatever RBR guys they can poach. They obviously want to win but that will require the natives working with the British immigrants biggrin

thegreenhell

15,564 posts

220 months

Sunday 12th May
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TheDeuce said:
thegreenhell said:
TheDeuce said:
His wife has been shopping for a house near Marenello so I expect his base will be fairly convenient for the factory smile
How do you know this?
Apparently Amanda was seen visiting houses in the area, variously reported at the time.

She was in the area - possibly it's just a massive coincidence of course smile
'Variously reported' seems to mean all the usual clickbait sites quoting an unsubstantiated line from a Daily Mail story as fact and making further stories about it. Nobody actually saw here there.

marine boy

800 posts

179 months

Sunday 12th May
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TheDeuce said:
From my experience it's about holding onto an overall design direction and also keeping tabs on what the teams are developing and what is worth committing too and what needs to be sacked off.

There has to be one person with a solid vision that can direct the efforts of everyone else.
From my experience of being directed by Gordon Murray, Pat Symonds, Mike Gasgoine, Malcolm Oastler, Geoff Willis, Shuhei Nakamoto, Aldo Costa, Rory Byrne, Pat Fry, James Allison, Matt Harman it is an infinitely difficult task to get right

Many sacked, fell on their sword or just got lost

Only 4 names I'd feel confident they'd understand/know the best direction to point everyone in










TheDeuce

22,055 posts

67 months

Sunday 12th May
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thegreenhell said:
TheDeuce said:
thegreenhell said:
TheDeuce said:
His wife has been shopping for a house near Marenello so I expect his base will be fairly convenient for the factory smile
How do you know this?
Apparently Amanda was seen visiting houses in the area, variously reported at the time.

She was in the area - possibly it's just a massive coincidence of course smile
'Variously reported' seems to mean all the usual clickbait sites quoting an unsubstantiated line from a Daily Mail story as fact and making further stories about it. Nobody actually saw here there.
Along with the fact that Newey was definitely there - as per my post above, there's no absolute evidence ever. Make your own judgement based on what is known.

thegreenhell

15,564 posts

220 months

Sunday 12th May
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TheDeuce said:
Along with the fact that Newey was definitely there - as per my post above, there's no absolute evidence ever. Make your own judgement based on what is known.
Newey was definitely in Italy a few weeks ago, testing one of his cars at Mugello, where he was spotted in his Red Bull racing overalls.

I don't know what this means for the Ferrari story. 2+2= whatever you want it to be.

TheDeuce

22,055 posts

67 months

Sunday 12th May
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thegreenhell said:
TheDeuce said:
Along with the fact that Newey was definitely there - as per my post above, there's no absolute evidence ever. Make your own judgement based on what is known.
Newey was definitely in Italy a few weeks ago, testing one of his cars at Mugello, where he was spotted in his Red Bull racing overalls.

I don't know what this means for the Ferrari story. 2+2= whatever you want it to be.
You mentioned the RBR overalls. Do you see that as relevant in some way?

PhilAsia

3,893 posts

76 months

Monday 13th May
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TheDeuce said:
epom said:
TheDeuce said:
thegreenhell said:
TheDeuce said:
His wife has been shopping for a house near Marenello so I expect his base will be fairly convenient for the factory smile
How do you know this?
Apparently Amanda was seen visiting houses in the area, variously reported at the time.

She was in the area - possibly it's just a massive coincidence of course smile
Ah, apparently a source said they possibly saw her smile
Along with a confirmed spotting of Adrian in April.

Of course there's no hard evidence, you'll never get that. But it's ok to make the odd assumption. I think he's done the deal and will soon be announced at Ferrari.

What do you think, if you were asked to speculate, as I am doing?
I think WhatsApp messages would possibly convin......erm, no scrap that... wink

PhilAsia

3,893 posts

76 months

Monday 13th May
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TheDeuce said:
thegreenhell said:
TheDeuce said:
Along with the fact that Newey was definitely there - as per my post above, there's no absolute evidence ever. Make your own judgement based on what is known.
Newey was definitely in Italy a few weeks ago, testing one of his cars at Mugello, where he was spotted in his Red Bull racing overalls.

I don't know what this means for the Ferrari story. 2+2= whatever you want it to be.
You mentioned the RBR overalls. Do you see that as relevant in some way?
Giving the Italian tailor the hurry-up is a possibility...

Bo_apex

2,586 posts

219 months

Monday 13th May
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marine boy said:
From my experience of being directed by Gordon Murray, Pat Symonds, Mike Gasgoine, Malcolm Oastler, Geoff Willis, Shuhei Nakamoto, Aldo Costa, Rory Byrne, Pat Fry, James Allison, Matt Harman it is an infinitely difficult task to get right

Many sacked, fell on their sword or just got lost

Only 4 names I'd feel confident they'd understand/know the best direction to point everyone in
clap

PlywoodPascal

4,307 posts

22 months

Monday 13th May
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Apparently Newey has signed up to duolingo and started “Italian Level 1” so it’s basically a done deal I reckon.

Still Mulling

12,574 posts

178 months

Monday 13th May
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PlywoodPascal said:
Apparently Newey has signed up to duolingo and started “Italian Level 1” so it’s basically a done deal I reckon.
hehe

I'll only be absolutely certain it's a done deal when he takes up the frequently-on-sale Rosetta Stone lifetime access package. biggrin

Forester1965

1,793 posts

4 months

Monday 13th May
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Mixed messages. Adrian spotted going into Pizza Express Woking.

Panic over. It was Andrew.

Jasandjules

70,006 posts

230 months

Monday 13th May
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Forester1965 said:
Mixed messages. Adrian spotted going into Pizza Express Woking.

Panic over. It was Andrew.
Don't sweat it..

PhilAsia

3,893 posts

76 months

Monday 13th May
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Jasandjules said:
Forester1965 said:
Mixed messages. Adrian spotted going into Pizza Express Woking.

Panic over. It was Andrew.
Don't sweat it..
biggrin

An impossibility.

Everything else is possible.

Gary C

12,557 posts

180 months

Monday 13th May
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PlywoodPascal said:
Apparently Newey has signed up to duolingo and started “Italian Level 1” so it’s basically a done deal I reckon.

DaveTheRave87

2,098 posts

90 months

Monday 13th May
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Forester1965 said:
Mixed messages. Adrian spotted going into Pizza Express Woking.

Panic over. It was Andrew.
Andrew Newey?

Byker28i

60,736 posts

218 months

Monday 13th May
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TheDeuce said:
I don't think he needs to take people over from one team to another to be effective at his role, but I do tend to agree that history tells us that the British influence at Ferrari is either wasted or needs to be totally accepted 100%, as it was during the MS years of dominance - also Ferrari's last period of success.

They obviously want to win but that will require the natives working with the British immigrants biggrin
Lots of that happened already. John Lockwood head of composites for instance

CocoUK

963 posts

183 months

Monday 13th May
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Spotted filling out deed poll.

Adriano Nuovo unveiled soon.

Petrus1983

8,867 posts

163 months

Monday 13th May
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A bit off topic - but can anyone identify this car?


MattOz

3,915 posts

265 months

Monday 13th May
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Petrus1983 said:
A bit off topic - but can anyone identify this car?

I'm going to say 250 Tour de France.