Adrian Newey to Ferrari? Is it possible?

Adrian Newey to Ferrari? Is it possible?

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Derek Smith

45,806 posts

249 months

Monday 13th May
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Muzzer79 said:
Gad-Westy said:
anonymous_user said:
I keep reading comments about Newey not leaving the UK because of family commitments ...i mean how many family commitments does a 65yo man have?

& it's not like many folks of that age aren't thinking about relocating to a sunnier climate for their latter years (i know i am & im not 65 or a multi-millionaire)
I think this relates more to a passage in his autobiography where an earlier opportunity to work with Ferrari was turned down because of the travel, younger kids etc. I doubt that is a stumbling block these days with grown up offspring and I'm sure AN can share his drawing board over MS teams to avoid too much travel wink
Having older children usually brings Grandchildren.

Unknown if he has any, but his oldest children are 40 or thereabouts so one assumes if they're not around then they won't be far off.

Perhaps he doesn't want to be too far from that extended family.
I've got four children and eight grandchildren. I have to book any 'days off' early in the year so they know when to avoid a clash of events. Not that my desires trump the GKs'. There's an historic event on at Brands in a fortnight. I had to cancel it.

Derek Smith

45,806 posts

249 months

Monday 13th May
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If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy.

We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.

BrettMRC

4,159 posts

161 months

Monday 13th May
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Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy.

We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
I think it will take quite some time to iron out the clown college approach though!

thegreenhell

15,569 posts

220 months

Monday 13th May
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Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy.

We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
What's your solution to this? Should we ban Adrian Newey, or simply limit where he's allowed to work?

suffolk009

5,486 posts

166 months

Monday 13th May
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HTP99 said:
anonymous_user said:
I keep reading comments about Newey not leaving the UK because of family commitments ...i mean how many family commitments does a 65yo man have?

& it's not like many folks of that age aren't thinking about relocating to a sunnier climate for their latter years (i know i am & im not 65 or a multi-millionaire)
it was something he mentioned many years ago when his kids were young, they are all of course adults now I believe he spends alot of his time in South Africa now anyway.
I think his (third?) wife is from SA. Apparently he lives very close to Eddie Jordan.

Pincher

8,624 posts

218 months

Monday 13th May
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suffolk009 said:
Apparently he lives very close to Eddie Jordan.
That could well be a reason why he is contemplating going to Ferrari - Marenello just became rather appealing laugh

TheDeuce

22,059 posts

67 months

Monday 13th May
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BrettMRC said:
Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy.

We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
I think it will take quite some time to iron out the clown college approach though!
Exactly! Just because Newey can very likely give them a championship contending car, doesn't mean they'll let him biggrin

That very much depends on the culture and politics of the team these days. I think you would need to work on the team to have much insight into how easy or difficult Newey might find it there. Although... if he does (or has) take the job, one imagines he's given that plenty thought too and has some level of confidence he can be effective there as he was at RBR.

g4ry13

17,123 posts

256 months

Monday 13th May
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Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy.

We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
He joined RB in 2006 and they didn't win until 2010. Then they had 4 wins until we had 8 years of Mercedes dominance.

There's by no means any guarantee that Newey going to Ferrari = domination.

Derek Smith

45,806 posts

249 months

Monday 13th May
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thegreenhell said:
Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy.

We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
What's your solution to this? Should we ban Adrian Newey, or simply limit where he's allowed to work?
I hadn't got so far as to come up with a solution. I was just dreading more dominance. It's a stupid point of view, as the norm is that one car will dominate. At least with Merc, at their height there was intra team rivalry. In any case, I'm not one to dictate, but it might be nice for him to go with a struggling team, such as Williams. He won't though.

Mind you, there was a period that got me excited; each race being eagerly awaited, and that's the Williams and McLaren battles. It's no good looking back.

732NM

4,737 posts

16 months

Monday 13th May
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g4ry13 said:
He joined RB in 2006 and they didn't win until 2010. Then they had 4 wins until we had 8 years of Mercedes dominance.

There's by no means any guarantee that Newey going to Ferrari = domination.
RB were a fledgling team that needed building up and organising. Ferrari have everything they need to win already.

Jasandjules

70,007 posts

230 months

Monday 13th May
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g4ry13 said:

There's by no means any guarantee that Newey going to Ferrari = domination.
Nope. But it sure does help. And with a regulation change, it is the people with the clever approaches to new regulations... Ferrari have the cash to throw at a design team with Newey running it.......

RichB

51,741 posts

285 months

Monday 13th May
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Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy. We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
I see it as all positive. Could end Red Bull's dominance, give Hamilton a crack at that eighth WDC and then, no doubt he'll retire leaving Leclerc in a strong position to challenge for a title himself and seat for someone else at Ferrari. What's not to like?

TheDeuce

22,059 posts

67 months

Monday 13th May
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RichB said:
Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy. We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
I see it as all positive. Could end Red Bull's dominance, give Hamilton a crack at that eighth WDC and then, no doubt he'll retire leaving Leclerc in a strong position to challenge for a title himself and seat for someone else at Ferrari. What's not to like?
It's the LH #8 title that makes this very interesting. If Ferrari get a fantastic 2026 car it's not just about a new team having a period of dominance, it's about an all time record of 8 WDC's being established. Arguably made even more tantalising for the 50% of F1 fans that are of the view the 8th should already be won...

I'm far from a Ferrari fan tbh, but even I can get on board with this happy coming together of talent smile

eliot

11,472 posts

255 months

Monday 13th May
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suffolk009 said:
Apparently he lives very close to Eddie Jordan.
probably knocked a few mill of his house price smile

Diderot

7,377 posts

193 months

Monday 13th May
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g4ry13 said:
Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy.

We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
He joined RB in 2006 and they didn't win until 2010. Then they had 4 wins until we had 8 years of Mercedes dominance.

There's by no means any guarantee that Newey going to Ferrari = domination.
Indeed, people seem to forget this.

suffolk009

5,486 posts

166 months

Monday 13th May
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Diderot said:
g4ry13 said:
Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy.

We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
He joined RB in 2006 and they didn't win until 2010. Then they had 4 wins until we had 8 years of Mercedes dominance.

There's by no means any guarantee that Newey going to Ferrari = domination.
Indeed, people seem to forget this.
Sorry to repeat myself, but since 1992, with only a few exceptions, the serial championship winners have been: Schumacher, Hamilton, and Newey.

Gad-Westy

14,627 posts

214 months

Monday 13th May
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suffolk009 said:
Diderot said:
g4ry13 said:
Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy.

We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
He joined RB in 2006 and they didn't win until 2010. Then they had 4 wins until we had 8 years of Mercedes dominance.

There's by no means any guarantee that Newey going to Ferrari = domination.
Indeed, people seem to forget this.
Sorry to repeat myself, but since 1992, with only a few exceptions, the serial championship winners have been: Schumacher, Hamilton, and Newey.
Yep. No guarantees but AN has won near 40% of constructors and driver’s championships since 92 and been quite close to a few more. Not a terrible CV if you ignore the MP4-18. Everyone has off days!

Edited by Gad-Westy on Monday 13th May 21:24

Leithen

11,023 posts

268 months

Monday 13th May
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suffolk009 said:
Sorry to repeat myself, but since 1992, with only a few exceptions, the serial championship winners have been: Schumacher, Hamilton, and Newey.
The common denominators are Brawn and Newey (Brawn has a claim on several of the Mercedes Championships).

Derek Smith

45,806 posts

249 months

Monday 13th May
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RichB said:
Derek Smith said:
If he does go to Ferrari, I won't be too happy. We've had RB dominate for years with their single driver ethos. If Newey does perform his magic there, we'll have more years of domination by them as, with the amount of money they've invested in LH, they will want him to win. It'll be a one-man team.
I see it as all positive. Could end Red Bull's dominance, give Hamilton a crack at that eighth WDC and then, no doubt he'll retire leaving Leclerc in a strong position to challenge for a title himself and seat for someone else at Ferrari. What's not to like?
I'm no LH-hater. He's been exciting to follow every since his first season - in a McL. I've been accused of being one of his fanboys, but then, I suppose, anyone who hasn't been totally dismissive of him has. But 7 WDCs is enough, surely. Great if he has to work at it, maybe fight off a challenger or three, but no superior car, please. Great if RB's dominance ends, but we don't want a red RB, do we?

I want PiaP's poll at the start of his race posts to no longer start at second.

thegreenhell

15,569 posts

220 months

Monday 13th May
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I'd like him to go to Williams. Then we might get Williams, McLaren and Ferrari fighting together at the front again.