RE: New Toyota Land Cruiser launched in UK 

RE: New Toyota Land Cruiser launched in UK 

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bqf

2,232 posts

172 months

Monday 29th April
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This is just daft. When I saw it I thought 'oooh I LOVE that', and decided that'd be my last ICE SUV in 2028 or thereabouts.

£80,000? You're having a laugh. Forget seven seats, I don't need them. I do need a big tow car that tows heavy stuff, but at £80k, no thanks.

Looks like another Touareg then.

Crazy that they pumped out the GR86 for £30k and this is so expensive.

LimaDelta

6,535 posts

219 months

Monday 29th April
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bqf said:
This is just daft. When I saw it I thought 'oooh I LOVE that', and decided that'd be my last ICE SUV in 2028 or thereabouts.

£80,000? You're having a laugh. Forget seven seats, I don't need them. I do need a big tow car that tows heavy stuff, but at £80k, no thanks.

Looks like another Touareg then.

Crazy that they pumped out the GR86 for £30k and this is so expensive.
The new Touareg starts at £68k, I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to push that to £80k with a few options ticked.

bqf

2,232 posts

172 months

Monday 29th April
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LimaDelta said:
The new Touareg starts at £68k, I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to push that to £80k with a few options ticked.
I specced one up in January and it was £62k....

Bernt Tuakrisp

45 posts

201 months

Monday 29th April
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bqf said:
This is just daft. When I saw it I thought 'oooh I LOVE that', and decided that'd be my last ICE SUV in 2028 or thereabouts.

£80,000? You're having a laugh. Forget seven seats, I don't need them. I do need a big tow car that tows heavy stuff, but at £80k, no thanks.

Looks like another Touareg then.

Crazy that they pumped out the GR86 for £30k and this is so expensive.
These are launch models - there will be lower spec cheaper options in due course.

fantheman80

1,475 posts

50 months

Monday 29th April
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David87 said:
Also, must get an award for being the first car to have different headlamps between trim levels. Don't these things cost millions to develop and get approved etc? Seems mad. hehe
Different headlamps on trims is not new as such, I remember my mk6 gti having an option of the xenon's with DRLs as part of a pack vs the standard piss yellow ones, but different sizes would be!

z89

20 posts

161 months

Monday 29th April
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bqf said:
This is just daft. When I saw it I thought 'oooh I LOVE that', and decided that'd be my last ICE SUV in 2028 or thereabouts.

£80,000? You're having a laugh. Forget seven seats, I don't need them. I do need a big tow car that tows heavy stuff, but at £80k, no thanks.

Looks like another Touareg then.

Crazy that they pumped out the GR86 for £30k and this is so expensive.
The GR86 doesn't have any technology, like literally nothing, not even stop-start which I thought was mandatory!

EK9_CTR

469 posts

135 months

Monday 29th April
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Over to you Lexus, would love to see the GX550 sold here.

Based on US MSRP, there isn't a significant price difference between this new LC and GX550, with the latter powered by a more appealing twin-turbo V6 and IMO looks even better.

777petrolhead

12 posts

134 months

Monday 29th April
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Starting at 75k what a joke, its using the same engine and running gear as a Hilux, so much for the touted 60k starting price at taht money theres an awful lot of car with much higher performance to be had ...

Frankychops

584 posts

10 months

Monday 29th April
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777petrolhead said:
Starting at 75k what a joke, its using the same engine and running gear as a Hilux, so much for the touted 60k starting price at taht money theres an awful lot of car with much higher performance to be had ...
do you have the starting price? as at the minute we've only got the price for the very top of the range model.

there was a 15k spread on the old model.

LimaDelta

6,535 posts

219 months

Monday 29th April
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777petrolhead said:
Starting at 75k what a joke, its using the same engine and running gear as a Hilux, so much for the touted 60k starting price at taht money theres an awful lot of car with much higher performance to be had ...
There will be cheaper versions on sale later, so far only the top-spec Invincible and the First Edition prices have been announced. I expect the Active and Icon specs will be somewhat cheaper when announced.

I think it is fairly competitive compared with the potential rivals, i.e. Defender, Discovery and Grenadier.

Jag_NE

3,008 posts

101 months

Monday 29th April
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The Defender has this beaten already.


ChocolateFrog

25,715 posts

174 months

Monday 29th April
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Great review from the Throttle House guys. Way more desirable than a Defender for me.


NIgt3

614 posts

175 months

Monday 29th April
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777petrolhead said:
Starting at 75k what a joke, its using the same engine and running gear as a Hilux, so much for the touted 60k starting price at taht money theres an awful lot of car with much higher performance to be had ...
Same engine yes (which is under powered) but completely different gearbox, which is a good thing!!!

Frankychops

584 posts

10 months

Monday 29th April
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Jag_NE said:
The Defender has this beaten already.
How and why?

Frankychops

584 posts

10 months

Monday 29th April
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NIgt3 said:
Same engine yes (which is under powered) but completely different gearbox, which is a good thing!!!
I think it’s a version of the same engine as it’s been made smoother etc

NGK210

3,021 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th April
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What about rust / corrosion protection?

For all of Toyota’s pious dedication to reliability and build quality, its egregiously cynical cost-cutting re. undersealing – ie, not undersealing – has been a major problem in snow / road salt regions, affecting ladder frames in particular.

So what’s been done? Is the new Land Cruiser actually undersealed or, even better, has the ladder frame been galvanized, or even better still, made of stainless steel?

And what’s the duration of the corrosion warranty?

22

2,318 posts

138 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Bernt Tuakrisp said:
I’m trying to figure out why the article says they are all already spoken for when ordering hasn’t opened yet? Anyone the wiser? I was expecting ordering to open on line and it be a frenzy like it was in Germany - all sold in less than 30mins
Yeah this. I've been on the update list since forever and don't think I've had an email yet.

ChocolateFrog

25,715 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th April
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NGK210 said:
What about rust / corrosion protection?

For all of Toyota’s pious dedication to reliability and build quality, its egregiously cynical cost-cutting re. undersealing – ie, not undersealing – has been a major problem in snow / road salt regions, affecting ladder frames in particular.

So what’s been done? Is the new Land Cruiser actually undersealed or, even better, has the ladder frame been galvanized, or even better still, made of stainless steel?

And what’s the duration of the corrosion warranty?
If I was buying new I'd do it myself. I don't think any Japanese manufacturers do a good job in that regard.

Toyota are probably marginally better than Mazda but that's the faintest of praise.

Frankychops

584 posts

10 months

Tuesday 30th April
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NGK210 said:
What about rust / corrosion protection?

For all of Toyota’s pious dedication to reliability and build quality, its egregiously cynical cost-cutting re. undersealing – ie, not undersealing – has been a major problem in snow / road salt regions, affecting ladder frames in particular.

So what’s been done? Is the new Land Cruiser actually undersealed or, even better, has the ladder frame been galvanized, or even better still, made of stainless steel?

And what’s the duration of the corrosion warranty?
stainless is heavy and brittle, there's a reason its not used.

arguti

1,776 posts

187 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Bernt Tuakrisp said:
I’m trying to figure out why the article says they are all already spoken for when ordering hasn’t opened yet? Anyone the wiser? I was expecting ordering to open on line and it be a frenzy like it was in Germany - all sold in less than 30mins
Yeah this. I've been on the update list since forever and don't think I've had an email yet.
Don't hold your breath as I registered interest in 2023 with Toyota etc and heard nothing other than marketing guff. Went into local dealer and asked them to put me on the list - they took my details and said they would email within 15 minutes - that was 4 weeks ago, still heard nothing.

We went through identical process with Toyota BZ4, local dealer stuffed up order, Toyota delayed launch due to wheel bolts snapping and took many months to re-design ( they gave loads to freebies US consumers affected by same at the time). then placed 100% "definite order" with another Toyota dealer and had lots of dealer updates always said they are waiting to hear from head Office - after another 8 months of absolute repeated broken promises, i bought a Skoda.

Never experienced such a sh*tshow - i did kind of guess there would be no improvement between 2022 and 2024 and so it proved.