Worst aging cars?

[GeniusOfLove]

LARK F1 GTR said:

I haven't got time to go through fourteen pages, so I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before.

First generation Porsche Cayenne. I think they look really dated now. Where as a Range Rover from the same time still looks decent.

Disagree with that. The Cayenne looks old but ok, the contemporary L322 RR but particularly the first gen L320 RRS look ancient, tacky, and very shoddy now.

ETA this has reminded me of the first time I saw a Cayenne, I was crossing the road and one stopped for the lights and I was so shocked at how incredibly ugly it was I stopped walking just to gawp at it, incredulous that such a creation had been allowed out of the factory gates. Quite amusing now, when it's bland and inoffensive compared to the utter trolls that ply the roads.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Thursday 9th May 14:10

[ajprice]

GeniusOfLove said:

ETA this has reminded me of the first time I saw a Cayenne,

First time I saw one was in my rear view mirror when I was stopped at traffic lights, so close up. Recognised the lights as a Porsche, confused by them being high up .

[FA57REN]

Sad-faced, chubby flanks. Hard to believe these were sold alongside Mk 1 Focus.

[GeniusOfLove]

FA57REN said:

Sad-faced, chubby flanks. Hard to believe these were sold alongside Mk 1 Focus.

They drove surprisingly well given their old school "lets treat our customers like scum" Ford origins, but they seemed to all rot into the ground very rapidly.

[LuS1fer]

GeniusOfLove said:

Disagree with that. The Cayenne looks old but ok, the contemporary L322 RR but particularly the first gen L320 RRS look ancient, tacky, and very shoddy now.

ETA this has reminded me of the first time I saw a Cayenne, I was crossing the road and one stopped for the lights and I was so shocked at how incredibly ugly it was I stopped walking just to gawp at it, incredulous that such a creation had been allowed out of the factory gates. Quite amusing now, when it's bland and inoffensive compared to the utter trolls that ply the roads.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Thursday 9th May 14:10

I'll say, on that basis, the BMW XM which was dated the second it appeared. I like old Rangies, old Cayennes were ugly from the start, like the Panamera.

[greenarrow]

I'm hoping the BMW iX will age badly. I was parked next to one yesterday and thought it was one of the most enormous, hideous blobs of dullness I had ever seen. I say I hope it will age, because naively I harbour the hope that one day common sense will prevail and enormous, oversized SUVs will start to go out of fashion and be replaced by more normal sized vehicles that can actually fit within an average parking space. I fear I will be disappointed however.

[pheonix478]

Range Rover Sport circa 2010. Has aged horribly imo. Seem to be owned by people who can't afford to fix the collapsed suspension now too which doesn't do it any favours.

[Lester H]

AmyRichardson said:

Considering the Model-S is 13 years old and most Tesla designs are direct spin-offs it's a miracle that they don't look older. Time-wise it's a durable design precisely because it rejected the detailed surfacing that was all the rage in early 2010s, and (I guess) that won't change because they're rejecting the gross "$#ck you" impactfulness of today.

I stick by the notion that if you're doing your own thing (as opposed to doing "that thing" of the time), and producing a clean, taught design, then you'll likely have something that endures to the point that technology and manufacturing techniques make your product look old-hat.

I agree. Designs which are plain, and therefore at risk of being regarded as bland, tend to age more gracefully than designs which try too hard to be up to the minute. Fussy ( over) design is a recipe for early obsolescence.

[Lester H]

Escort3500 said:

Another vote for the utterly charmless Tesla. Ugly at birth and has got progressively more dated looking since then.

Imho , not ugly, just bland and thus not controversial( in looks, that is.)

[pheonix478]

Lester H said:

Escort3500 said:

Another vote for the utterly charmless Tesla. Ugly at birth and has got progressively more dated looking since then.

Imho , not ugly, just bland and thus not controversial( in looks, that is.)

Challenge.

[LuS1fer]

pheonix478 said:

Lester H said:

Escort3500 said:

Another vote for the utterly charmless Tesla. Ugly at birth and has got progressively more dated looking since then.

Imho , not ugly, just bland and thus not controversial( in looks, that is.)

Challenge.

Looks bang up to date.

For the 90s...

[MightyBadger]

LARK F1 GTR said:

I haven't got time to go through fourteen pages, so I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before.

First generation Porsche Cayenne. I think they look really dated now. Where as a Range Rover from the same time still looks decent.

I think they look great, much better than when they came out. Design has aged very well - a smdigen dated but very stylish against some of the more modern SUVs.

Edited by MightyBadger on Friday 10th May 10:02

[Truckosaurus]

FA57REN said:

Sad-faced, chubby flanks. Hard to believe these were sold alongside Mk 1 Focus.

My mate had one of those back in the day, he'd owned it for about a year when he noticed that while the drivers' side had that plastic rubbing strip half way up the doors, the passenger side didn't!

His was a lighter green colour so it was obvious once you spotted it.

[fflump]

The first generation Continental Flying Spur has aged badly
Looks like a stretched Rover 75

[murphyaj]

LARK F1 GTR said:

I haven't got time to go through fourteen pages, so I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before.

First generation Porsche Cayenne. I think they look really dated now. Where as a Range Rover from the same time still looks decent.

Not sure they have aged badly, it's more that they looked like st then, and they look like old st now. Top gear described it at the time as like those deep sea fish that get bloated with horribly distorted features when you bring them to the surface, and the Cayenne looks like someone did that to a 911. Personally I think they nailed it,

Edited by murphyaj on Friday 10th May 21:45

[fozzymandeus]

LuS1fer said:

pheonix478 said:

Lester H said:

Escort3500 said:

Another vote for the utterly charmless Tesla. Ugly at birth and has got progressively more dated looking since then.

Imho , not ugly, just bland and thus not controversial( in looks, that is.)

Challenge.

Looks bang up to date.

For the 90s...

I always thought the Mk2 Mondeo was a handsome car.

[pheonix478]

murphyaj said:

Not sure they have aged badly, it's more that they looked like st then, and they look like old st now. ..

Completely agree. Same goes for the early Panamera that looked like cr*p too. I don't think either count as a car that has aged poorly, which I think implies they used to look good. My vote goes to the XK8, which I think used to look good, maybe, although it's hard to believe..

[cerb4.5lee]

fozzymandeus said:

LuS1fer said:

pheonix478 said:

Lester H said:

Escort3500 said:

Another vote for the utterly charmless Tesla. Ugly at birth and has got progressively more dated looking since then.

Imho , not ugly, just bland and thus not controversial( in looks, that is.)

Challenge.

Looks bang up to date.

For the 90s...

I always thought the Mk2 Mondeo was a handsome car.

You can't help but laugh at Tesla really for me, because they have a modern powertrain, yet their design is so miles behind the times though(both inside and outside).

However...what do I know? Because they sell loads of the chuffing things to be fair.

[TownIdiot]

MightyBadger said:

LARK F1 GTR said:

I haven't got time to go through fourteen pages, so I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before.

First generation Porsche Cayenne. I think they look really dated now. Where as a Range Rover from the same time still looks decent.

I think they look great, much better than when they came out. Design has aged very well - a smdigen dated but very stylish against some of the more modern SUVs.

Edited by MightyBadger on Friday 10th May 10:02

I think it's something to do with headlights

Porsche were trying to get that across the board and the 911 and boxster looked crap as well.
In my opinion


There was an independent dealer who used to do a kit to mimic the later lights and they looked way better.

[ajprice]

cerb4.5lee said:

You can't help but laugh at Tesla really for me, because they have a modern powertrain, yet their design is so miles behind the times though(both inside and outside).

However...what do I know? Because they sell loads of the chuffing things to be fair.

If Tesla and Henrik Fisker had got along, they might have sold loads of chuffing things that looked like this...



Instead, lawyers got involved, Fisker did on their own as the Karma, and didn't sell loads at all.

https://www.wired.com/2008/04/sparks-fly-as-t/