RE: Volvo 850 T-5R | PH Auction Block

RE: Volvo 850 T-5R | PH Auction Block

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Yahonza

1,672 posts

31 months

Thursday 9th May
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cerb4.5lee said:
It is mad how much times have changed I reckon. Volvo nowadays only do 4 cylinder engines, and they limit the top speed of their cars now to pretty much walking pace.

When did the world get so boring? I blame EVs though, because a lot of those have really low top speeds as well.

I personally would never pay that much for this with the mileage it is on. I have a 22 year old Caterham and that has less than 5k miles on it for example. I'd be rocking in a corner with a car with over a 100k miles on it I reckon! hehe
That's some Olympian walking pace right there.

Gericho

125 posts

4 months

Thursday 9th May
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Stupid price. Sick and tired of every article about Volvo going on about some pre-historic BTCC race that made boxy cool. Move on ffs.

bigmowley

1,910 posts

177 months

Thursday 9th May
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I had a green manual one as a company car for a while in the mid 90’s. It was epically good fun to drive, especially in the wet, masses of understeer, torque steer and wheel spin out of corners. It might have had an LSD but I don’t think it did very much. Luckily I had a fuel card as well because it did like a drink, I don’t think I ever got over 20mpg out of mine. I did drive it like I had stolen it mind you. It was quite a good tow car once the boost was wound up.
It was as baggy as hell when it was brand new so Christ knows what a 30 year old one drives like now. Totally outclassed by more modern metal. One of those cars best viewed through rose tinted specs and quietly forgotten about IMHO.

Wren-went

806 posts

39 months

Friday 10th May
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Always wanted an 850 R wagon when at about 4 years old a reasonable mileage 5 years old 1 owner could be had for around £5 grandish .

Usually most cars within reason I wanted.ive always bought.other than a T5R or an R .

This car is far too much and it's not an R you want the most powerful.of the 850 trio. For a car over 25 years old they've aged well.

cerb4.5lee

30,944 posts

181 months

Friday 10th May
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Yahonza said:
cerb4.5lee said:
It is mad how much times have changed I reckon. Volvo nowadays only do 4 cylinder engines, and they limit the top speed of their cars now to pretty much walking pace.

When did the world get so boring? I blame EVs though, because a lot of those have really low top speeds as well.

I personally would never pay that much for this with the mileage it is on. I have a 22 year old Caterham and that has less than 5k miles on it for example. I'd be rocking in a corner with a car with over a 100k miles on it I reckon! hehe
That's some Olympian walking pace right there.
I did wonder if someone would pull me up on that in fairness! biggrin

112 mph is a pretty fast walk for sure! thumbup

DrEMa

717 posts

93 months

Friday 10th May
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nice, but wrong 'box. Agree with others on the price - this feels like a Ford nostalgia level of pricing

Gary29

4,179 posts

100 months

Friday 10th May
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Gericho said:
Stupid price. Sick and tired of every article about Volvo going on about some pre-historic BTCC race that made boxy cool. Move on ffs.
Oh come on, it's only been 30 years!

legalman58

14 posts

4 months

Friday 10th May
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Wrong gearbox

Way too high a mileage

Silly price

Lester H

2,768 posts

106 months

Friday 10th May
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Portofino said:
Text says ‘Now, Volvo estates have always been cool.’ No they haven’t…
Indeed not: they were the epitome of middle class, middle England suburbia. The ordinary ones were rather ponderous gas guzzlers - I went in a few ‘ at the time’..They were of good build quality at a time when that was rare. They are still there in the leafy lanes of NW London, and areas like Harrogate and York.The fast ones of which there weren’t many were quite a talking point but I think a lot of urban myths grew around them.

Edited by Lester H on Friday 10th May 11:27

Nish Gnackers

1,062 posts

42 months

Friday 10th May
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Lester H said:
Portofino said:
Text says ‘Now, Volvo estates have always been cool.’ No they haven’t…
Indeed not: they were the epitome of middle class, middle England suburbia. The ordinary ones were rather ponderous gas guzzlers - I went in a few ‘ at the time’..They were of good build quality at a time when that was rare. The fast ones of which there weren’t many were quite a talking point but I think a lot of urban myths grew around them.
Middle class suburbia ? A scene from The Good Life ... Jerry drives a Volvo Estate.


Turbobanana

6,341 posts

202 months

Friday 10th May
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OK, much higher mileage, but this failed to sell through Mathewsons last week with an estimate of £6-7000:



1994 VOLVO 850 T5R AUTO


Don Roque

18,017 posts

160 months

Friday 10th May
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Does this qualify as the most insanely overambitious guide price for any PH auction so far then?

5lab

1,668 posts

197 months

Friday 10th May
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Nish Gnackers said:
Lester H said:
Portofino said:
Text says ‘Now, Volvo estates have always been cool.’ No they haven’t…
Indeed not: they were the epitome of middle class, middle England suburbia. The ordinary ones were rather ponderous gas guzzlers - I went in a few ‘ at the time’..They were of good build quality at a time when that was rare. The fast ones of which there weren’t many were quite a talking point but I think a lot of urban myths grew around them.
Middle class suburbia ? A scene from The Good Life ... Jerry drives a Volvo Estate.

a good life is set in bloody surbiton - its about as middle class suburbia as it's possible to get!

they're the audi q5 of the 80s

RacingPete

8,905 posts

205 months

PH TEAM

Friday 10th May
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Thanks for all the comments on pricing here - did the heat in the last few days get to us on PH? silly

The beauty of auctions is that for cars where it is hard to value them, (we ran a brave pill on one of these a few years back which was £7.5k while another in the classifieds was up at £26k - quite the range), the true market value will come through at the end of the auction.

For this example we did speak to a T5 specialist before listing the price and solid collectible ones were not going for less than 20k in recent times, this one is still in factory paint, original panels, no restoration and spent years in collector circles, well maintained, with money spent when needed.

Let's see what it gets to, and the comments here have helped us lower the reserve, so thank you all - keep calling us out where needed, as we (all 14 of us who work across everything on PistonHeads) are genuinely here to try and help PHers buy, sell and chat about cars.

dunnoreally

983 posts

109 months

Saturday 11th May
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5lab said:
a good life is set in bloody surbiton - its about as middle class suburbia as it's possible to get!

they're the audi q5 of the 80s
I'm not sure Q5 is quite right - an Audi 4x4 has a certain conspicuous consumption-y yoof appeal that I don't think the 850 ever did.

I'd go down a VAG brand and say it's more like the 80s Touareg.

MDMA .

8,961 posts

102 months

Saturday 11th May
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Turbobanana said:
OK, much higher mileage, but this failed to sell through Mathewsons last week with an estimate of £6-7000:



1994 VOLVO 850 T5R AUTO
I’m surprised anything sells there. Bottom of the barrel springs to mind.

AKjr

404 posts

12 months

Sunday 12th May
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cerb4.5lee said:
I did wonder if someone would pull me up on that in fairness! biggrin

112 mph is a pretty fast walk for sure! thumbup
I mananged to make mine do 115mph recently, party time!

On a track, obviously cop

Rusty Old-Banger

4,024 posts

214 months

Sunday 12th May
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Bloody hell 10k after a day. Wasn't expecting that.

C5_Steve

3,288 posts

104 months

Monday 13th May
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RacingPete said:
Thanks for all the comments on pricing here - did the heat in the last few days get to us on PH? silly

The beauty of auctions is that for cars where it is hard to value them, (we ran a brave pill on one of these a few years back which was £7.5k while another in the classifieds was up at £26k - quite the range), the true market value will come through at the end of the auction.

For this example we did speak to a T5 specialist before listing the price and solid collectible ones were not going for less than 20k in recent times, this one is still in factory paint, original panels, no restoration and spent years in collector circles, well maintained, with money spent when needed.

Let's see what it gets to, and the comments here have helped us lower the reserve, so thank you all - keep calling us out where needed, as we (all 14 of us who work across everything on PistonHeads) are genuinely here to try and help PHers buy, sell and chat about cars.
Good shout, although we may all be left red-faced if this continues to climb as quick as it just has rofl


Davie

4,760 posts

216 months

Monday 13th May
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MCBrowncoat said:
Did these ever get close to SOTW values? There must have been a ropey one at some point.
Yes.

The green 850R Top Gear used was mine. I bought it from a chap in Ayr back in 2012 for under £1000 and it was a pretty decent example too.

I've had 850 T5's on and off since 1999, about 15 of them including a yellow manual estate... and yes I regret selling most of them given how much the prices have increased.

I'm now the demographic for buying this - mid 40's, kids, grew up obsessed with 90's BTCC and nostalgia tugs at the heart and purse strings... probably why having vowed not to buy another, I bought a standard white T-5 manual estate a couple of years back. It sat in the garage for 18 months, did 200 miles then I sold it - I think I accepted those days were gone.

They're deserving of inflated prices, they have a sort of cult car / 90's performance appeal and we all know where the market for that stuff is going... so why not? They can be great things and a mint example would be a nice addition but a tired one is hard work. As for an auto... kills them in my opinion.

A £10k+ you'd really, really hard to want one.