What to follow a GT4 with?
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I’ve often wondered where you would go after such a car.
The local OPC had RS Spyder and new GT3 RS both with about 590 miles on and both belonged to the same guy.
I would assume pinnacle of modern Porsche. God only knows where he was going after them.
Personally I don’t like modern 911s so went to Ferrari, currently a 458 spider. Bloody amazing.
Also went McLaren and they are laugh out loud bonkers. Love it.
But I don’t think a 488 Spyder really suits your purpose, well a Sunday morning yes. You would definitely want to take it on road trips though. Brilliant car, but you would want to use it more and probably not a track car.
A McLaren would suit.
But it strikes me there’s plenty of Porsche left in you yet, GT3 wise although could be too close to the GT4.
An interesting, but fun dilemma to have. And with that budget there is loads to go have a go at.
P.S get a 720 and come and laugh out loud
The local OPC had RS Spyder and new GT3 RS both with about 590 miles on and both belonged to the same guy.
I would assume pinnacle of modern Porsche. God only knows where he was going after them.
Personally I don’t like modern 911s so went to Ferrari, currently a 458 spider. Bloody amazing.
Also went McLaren and they are laugh out loud bonkers. Love it.
But I don’t think a 488 Spyder really suits your purpose, well a Sunday morning yes. You would definitely want to take it on road trips though. Brilliant car, but you would want to use it more and probably not a track car.
A McLaren would suit.
But it strikes me there’s plenty of Porsche left in you yet, GT3 wise although could be too close to the GT4.
An interesting, but fun dilemma to have. And with that budget there is loads to go have a go at.
P.S get a 720 and come and laugh out loud
Your other option could be to let 9m play with your GT4 and fit their lightweight flywheel and clutch plus exhaust and tune it. You'll be up around 430bhp or more and there would be even less in it between your car and the models you mentioned from porsche!:-)
Whatever happens you've already got a fabulous drivers car, get it on track and enjoy!
Whatever happens you've already got a fabulous drivers car, get it on track and enjoy!
Going/been through (sort of) a similar question myself.
My GT4 is a 3rd weekend car, also only used for early morning drives with the odd track day. It turns 2yrs old this July. Specced it myself so owned from new and bought at list (locked in before lots of the silly price rises at the end of 21 and start of 22). I have the balloon to either pay, refinance, or trade in the GT4 for something else using the equity as a deposit.
I started potentially thinking about replacements back in Jan, and being honest, I came to the conclusion that for my driving skills there was nothing 'new' that would give me more enjoyment v £, especially as new car prices in 2024 and interest rates rates are currently so high.
My OPC offered me a 4RS build allocation a couple of months ago, but I turned it down for a number of reasons, some of which are listed by people in this thread.
I go to this fairly regularly... https://www.instagram.com/legends_drivers_club/
...which gives me the opportunity to see pretty much every flavour of 911 (and Porsche) etc, and talk to the owners, and I think I've come to the conclusion that I'm not willing to push money into any epic depreciation on something relatively new, so I will refinance my balloon in the short term, and then the next car will probably be a 997 GT3/RS of some flavour.
My GT4 is a 3rd weekend car, also only used for early morning drives with the odd track day. It turns 2yrs old this July. Specced it myself so owned from new and bought at list (locked in before lots of the silly price rises at the end of 21 and start of 22). I have the balloon to either pay, refinance, or trade in the GT4 for something else using the equity as a deposit.
I started potentially thinking about replacements back in Jan, and being honest, I came to the conclusion that for my driving skills there was nothing 'new' that would give me more enjoyment v £, especially as new car prices in 2024 and interest rates rates are currently so high.
My OPC offered me a 4RS build allocation a couple of months ago, but I turned it down for a number of reasons, some of which are listed by people in this thread.
I go to this fairly regularly... https://www.instagram.com/legends_drivers_club/
...which gives me the opportunity to see pretty much every flavour of 911 (and Porsche) etc, and talk to the owners, and I think I've come to the conclusion that I'm not willing to push money into any epic depreciation on something relatively new, so I will refinance my balloon in the short term, and then the next car will probably be a 997 GT3/RS of some flavour.
Edited by kmpowell on Friday 10th May 09:31
Having got out of a 718 GT4 from new recently after 2 years of ownership happy to share my thought processes!
Had the GT4 for 2 years, mostly for track days and roadtrips. Did a few mods to it to extract more out of that excellent chassis - as the stock car is neither a great road car nor a great track car closer to the limit. Some KW coilovers, Manthey arms + aggressive geo transformed it into a totally different animal but it became pretty much only a track car.
Always had an itch for a 911 GT3 and I reached the limit of what I could do with the GT4 so the search started bearing in mind this will be a 95% road car to enjoy driving again. Manual was almost a must so 991 RS was out which is also mostly a track car.
- 992 GT3: quickly realised these are hardly rare and didn't think it's worth paying small overs for a used common sportscar. I also thought I'd end up in the same place as I did with the GT4. It's another modern car that I'd probably get bored of in 2 years. Phenomenal car on track, but almost too good for the road. Don't buy into the 'too uncomfortable for the road' as these cars are sensitive to Geo, ride height etc which can be all adjusted. Comfort seats and PS4s also help.
- 991.2 GT3: Was super tempted, think they look and sound great. Very usable but perhaps not 'analogue' enough. The price differential between manual and PDK was just too much for me to justify. Yes manual is rare but 20k-30k difference is a lot for the same car
- 991.1 GT3: no manuals but at their price point think awesome value.
- 997.2 GT3 RS: those prices wow...
- 997.2 GT3: Test drove a black one and within first 10 metres knew had to have it. Exciting at every speed and so rewarding, perfect size, makes a great noise and rides awful british roads so so well, so much better than the stock 718GT4. They just have such a cool vibe about them. Mine is without the cage and with normal sports seats. Haven't looked back for a second. I keep my fingers crossed that this becomes a forever car and anything else I get in the future will be an addition to and not a replacement for the 997
Had the GT4 for 2 years, mostly for track days and roadtrips. Did a few mods to it to extract more out of that excellent chassis - as the stock car is neither a great road car nor a great track car closer to the limit. Some KW coilovers, Manthey arms + aggressive geo transformed it into a totally different animal but it became pretty much only a track car.
Always had an itch for a 911 GT3 and I reached the limit of what I could do with the GT4 so the search started bearing in mind this will be a 95% road car to enjoy driving again. Manual was almost a must so 991 RS was out which is also mostly a track car.
- 992 GT3: quickly realised these are hardly rare and didn't think it's worth paying small overs for a used common sportscar. I also thought I'd end up in the same place as I did with the GT4. It's another modern car that I'd probably get bored of in 2 years. Phenomenal car on track, but almost too good for the road. Don't buy into the 'too uncomfortable for the road' as these cars are sensitive to Geo, ride height etc which can be all adjusted. Comfort seats and PS4s also help.
- 991.2 GT3: Was super tempted, think they look and sound great. Very usable but perhaps not 'analogue' enough. The price differential between manual and PDK was just too much for me to justify. Yes manual is rare but 20k-30k difference is a lot for the same car
- 991.1 GT3: no manuals but at their price point think awesome value.
- 997.2 GT3 RS: those prices wow...
- 997.2 GT3: Test drove a black one and within first 10 metres knew had to have it. Exciting at every speed and so rewarding, perfect size, makes a great noise and rides awful british roads so so well, so much better than the stock 718GT4. They just have such a cool vibe about them. Mine is without the cage and with normal sports seats. Haven't looked back for a second. I keep my fingers crossed that this becomes a forever car and anything else I get in the future will be an addition to and not a replacement for the 997
Rolling8ball said:
Having got out of a 718 GT4 from new recently after 2 years of ownership happy to share my thought processes!
Had the GT4 for 2 years, mostly for track days and roadtrips. Did a few mods to it to extract more out of that excellent chassis - as the stock car is neither a great road car nor a great track car closer to the limit. Some KW coilovers, Manthey arms + aggressive geo transformed it into a totally different animal but it became pretty much only a track car.
Always had an itch for a 911 GT3 and I reached the limit of what I could do with the GT4 so the search started bearing in mind this will be a 95% road car to enjoy driving again. Manual was almost a must so 991 RS was out which is also mostly a track car.
- 992 GT3: quickly realised these are hardly rare and didn't think it's worth paying small overs for a used common sportscar. I also thought I'd end up in the same place as I did with the GT4. It's another modern car that I'd probably get bored of in 2 years. Phenomenal car on track, but almost too good for the road. Don't buy into the 'too uncomfortable for the road' as these cars are sensitive to Geo, ride height etc which can be all adjusted. Comfort seats and PS4s also help.
- 991.2 GT3: Was super tempted, think they look and sound great. Very usable but perhaps not 'analogue' enough. The price differential between manual and PDK was just too much for me to justify. Yes manual is rare but 20k-30k difference is a lot for the same car
- 991.1 GT3: no manuals but at their price point think awesome value.
- 997.2 GT3 RS: those prices wow...
- 997.2 GT3: Test drove a black one and within first 10 metres knew had to have it. Exciting at every speed and so rewarding, perfect size, makes a great noise and rides awful british roads so so well, so much better than the stock 718GT4. They just have such a cool vibe about them. Mine is without the cage and with normal sports seats. Haven't looked back for a second. I keep my fingers crossed that this becomes a forever car and anything else I get in the future will be an addition to and not a replacement for the 997
What are the numbers for the 992GT3 , compared to the 991GT3, did they build that many more 992's ?Had the GT4 for 2 years, mostly for track days and roadtrips. Did a few mods to it to extract more out of that excellent chassis - as the stock car is neither a great road car nor a great track car closer to the limit. Some KW coilovers, Manthey arms + aggressive geo transformed it into a totally different animal but it became pretty much only a track car.
Always had an itch for a 911 GT3 and I reached the limit of what I could do with the GT4 so the search started bearing in mind this will be a 95% road car to enjoy driving again. Manual was almost a must so 991 RS was out which is also mostly a track car.
- 992 GT3: quickly realised these are hardly rare and didn't think it's worth paying small overs for a used common sportscar. I also thought I'd end up in the same place as I did with the GT4. It's another modern car that I'd probably get bored of in 2 years. Phenomenal car on track, but almost too good for the road. Don't buy into the 'too uncomfortable for the road' as these cars are sensitive to Geo, ride height etc which can be all adjusted. Comfort seats and PS4s also help.
- 991.2 GT3: Was super tempted, think they look and sound great. Very usable but perhaps not 'analogue' enough. The price differential between manual and PDK was just too much for me to justify. Yes manual is rare but 20k-30k difference is a lot for the same car
- 991.1 GT3: no manuals but at their price point think awesome value.
- 997.2 GT3 RS: those prices wow...
- 997.2 GT3: Test drove a black one and within first 10 metres knew had to have it. Exciting at every speed and so rewarding, perfect size, makes a great noise and rides awful british roads so so well, so much better than the stock 718GT4. They just have such a cool vibe about them. Mine is without the cage and with normal sports seats. Haven't looked back for a second. I keep my fingers crossed that this becomes a forever car and anything else I get in the future will be an addition to and not a replacement for the 997
Tia
Rolling8ball said:
Having got out of a 718 GT4 from new recently after 2 years of ownership happy to share my thought processes!
Had the GT4 for 2 years, mostly for track days and roadtrips. Did a few mods to it to extract more out of that excellent chassis - as the stock car is neither a great road car nor a great track car closer to the limit. Some KW coilovers, Manthey arms + aggressive geo transformed it into a totally different animal but it became pretty much only a track car.
Always had an itch for a 911 GT3 and I reached the limit of what I could do with the GT4 so the search started bearing in mind this will be a 95% road car to enjoy driving again. Manual was almost a must so 991 RS was out which is also mostly a track car.
- 992 GT3: quickly realised these are hardly rare and didn't think it's worth paying small overs for a used common sportscar. I also thought I'd end up in the same place as I did with the GT4. It's another modern car that I'd probably get bored of in 2 years. Phenomenal car on track, but almost too good for the road. Don't buy into the 'too uncomfortable for the road' as these cars are sensitive to Geo, ride height etc which can be all adjusted. Comfort seats and PS4s also help.
- 991.2 GT3: Was super tempted, think they look and sound great. Very usable but perhaps not 'analogue' enough. The price differential between manual and PDK was just too much for me to justify. Yes manual is rare but 20k-30k difference is a lot for the same car
- 991.1 GT3: no manuals but at their price point think awesome value.
- 997.2 GT3 RS: those prices wow...
- 997.2 GT3: Test drove a black one and within first 10 metres knew had to have it. Exciting at every speed and so rewarding, perfect size, makes a great noise and rides awful british roads so so well, so much better than the stock 718GT4. They just have such a cool vibe about them. Mine is without the cage and with normal sports seats. Haven't looked back for a second. I keep my fingers crossed that this becomes a forever car and anything else I get in the future will be an addition to and not a replacement for the 997
Great story, love the last lines about the 997.2 GT3 they are a bit top 911 sometimes I come across such GT3 RS those with the 450hp for not silly money for such (say 160k euro), but those go fast, yesterday saw a nice one on the web almost 200k but for such, still not to silly, ok its the 450hp version not the 500hp version, but those 500hp are silly money Had the GT4 for 2 years, mostly for track days and roadtrips. Did a few mods to it to extract more out of that excellent chassis - as the stock car is neither a great road car nor a great track car closer to the limit. Some KW coilovers, Manthey arms + aggressive geo transformed it into a totally different animal but it became pretty much only a track car.
Always had an itch for a 911 GT3 and I reached the limit of what I could do with the GT4 so the search started bearing in mind this will be a 95% road car to enjoy driving again. Manual was almost a must so 991 RS was out which is also mostly a track car.
- 992 GT3: quickly realised these are hardly rare and didn't think it's worth paying small overs for a used common sportscar. I also thought I'd end up in the same place as I did with the GT4. It's another modern car that I'd probably get bored of in 2 years. Phenomenal car on track, but almost too good for the road. Don't buy into the 'too uncomfortable for the road' as these cars are sensitive to Geo, ride height etc which can be all adjusted. Comfort seats and PS4s also help.
- 991.2 GT3: Was super tempted, think they look and sound great. Very usable but perhaps not 'analogue' enough. The price differential between manual and PDK was just too much for me to justify. Yes manual is rare but 20k-30k difference is a lot for the same car
- 991.1 GT3: no manuals but at their price point think awesome value.
- 997.2 GT3 RS: those prices wow...
- 997.2 GT3: Test drove a black one and within first 10 metres knew had to have it. Exciting at every speed and so rewarding, perfect size, makes a great noise and rides awful british roads so so well, so much better than the stock 718GT4. They just have such a cool vibe about them. Mine is without the cage and with normal sports seats. Haven't looked back for a second. I keep my fingers crossed that this becomes a forever car and anything else I get in the future will be an addition to and not a replacement for the 997
also I believe those GT3 RS 450hp versions are pretty rare, also the GT3 997.2 I guess, ah, seems around 1500 WW for the GT3 RS 997.2 were those 3.8 all manual?
https://www.porscheknowledge.com/gt3-production-bu...
Yea given this trend I'd imagine 992 numbers to be way higher. Used market is certainly not short on them.
Funny how nowadays a 'limited edition' ST is considered limited at 2000 units when 10+ years ago that's how many 997 and 996s were made of each model type and gen.
If i did have a spare 180k a 997.2 RS would almost certainly be first choice knowing now just how good of a road car the standard 7.2 GT3 is!
Yea given this trend I'd imagine 992 numbers to be way higher. Used market is certainly not short on them.
Funny how nowadays a 'limited edition' ST is considered limited at 2000 units when 10+ years ago that's how many 997 and 996s were made of each model type and gen.
If i did have a spare 180k a 997.2 RS would almost certainly be first choice knowing now just how good of a road car the standard 7.2 GT3 is!
Rolling8ball said:
Having got out of a 718 GT4 from new recently after 2 years of ownership happy to share my thought processes!
- 997.2 GT3 RS: those prices wow...
- 997.2 GT3: Test drove a black one and within first 10 metres knew had to have it. Exciting at every speed and so rewarding, perfect size, makes a great noise and rides awful british roads so so well, so much better than the stock 718GT4. They just have such a cool vibe about them. Mine is without the cage and with normal sports seats. Haven't looked back for a second. I keep my fingers crossed that this becomes a forever car and anything else I get in the future will be an addition to and not a replacement for the 997
I'm with Rolling8ball on this. I've had two 997.2 (GT3 and GT3RS), a 991.2 GT3RS and now a 718 GT4 (PDK). The GT4 is a great car, but I miss the deeper involvement that came with the more analog/raw experience that the 997.2 (both GT3 and RS) provided.- 997.2 GT3 RS: those prices wow...
- 997.2 GT3: Test drove a black one and within first 10 metres knew had to have it. Exciting at every speed and so rewarding, perfect size, makes a great noise and rides awful british roads so so well, so much better than the stock 718GT4. They just have such a cool vibe about them. Mine is without the cage and with normal sports seats. Haven't looked back for a second. I keep my fingers crossed that this becomes a forever car and anything else I get in the future will be an addition to and not a replacement for the 997
I was recently at Spa, and had a lot of fun. I had a racelogic data logger, so I looked at my laps - and the looked at a lap I did in 2016 with the 997 RS. The difference in sound and in driver involvement is pretty significant...
I don't pretend to be a quick driver or anything - but for comparison here are two laps of Spa, one in the GT4 a few weeks ago, and one in the GT3RS back in 2016.
https://youtu.be/FizUuPMPO30?si=FXA9o61o6Bh0hA1X
https://youtu.be/V2ICnBBtGnQ?si=B3lMuw9YDc433QDs
And this has got me thinking that I may need to find myself a 997 GT3 of some sort...
Michael
mep59 said:
I'm with Rolling8ball on this. I've had two 997.2 (GT3 and GT3RS), a 991.2 GT3RS and now a 718 GT4 (PDK). The GT4 is a great car, but I miss the deeper involvement that came with the more analog/raw experience that the 997.2 (both GT3 and RS) provided.
The 'old car experience' for lack of a better description isn't for everyone either I'd say but if that's one what prefers, then tbh there's very little 'modern' no matter how quick or capable, that offers anything like it. Think in some respects we are just showing our age though. 20 years ago people likely were harking back to the 'even older' stuff with people harking back to the 964s and before compared to the 996 gt3s I suppose....isaldiri said:
The 'old car experience' for lack of a better description isn't for everyone either I'd say but if that's one what prefers, then tbh there's very little 'modern' no matter how quick or capable, that offers anything like it. Think in some respects we are just showing our age though. 20 years ago people likely were harking back to the 'even older' stuff with people harking back to the 964s and before compared to the 996 gt3s I suppose....
I get what you're saying about the appeal of the old car experience as we age but for me the beauty of the 997 GT3 is that it doesn't feel old, I wouldn't have one if it did.Mine certainly didn't on a "rapid" strop with a GT4 RS in the French Alps last September!
I do find it a massively engaging experience though, I feel the car will only give its all if I am giving mine, which I love
isaldiri said:
The 'old car experience' for lack of a better description isn't for everyone either I'd say but if that's one what prefers, then tbh there's very little 'modern' no matter how quick or capable, that offers anything like it. Think in some respects we are just showing our age though. 20 years ago people likely were harking back to the 'even older' stuff with people harking back to the 964s and before compared to the 996 gt3s I suppose....
You're probably right - my first Porsche was a 986 Boxster in 2000, so I don't have any personal experience of the earlier models (though I did briefly drive my dad's 911S back in the mid-70s aged 14 or 15 ;-)). So based on personal experience the 997s that I used to own are my favorites...mep59 said:
I'm with Rolling8ball on this. I've had two 997.2 (GT3 and GT3RS), a 991.2 GT3RS and now a 718 GT4 (PDK). The GT4 is a great car, but I miss the deeper involvement that came with the more analog/raw experience that the 997.2 (both GT3 and RS) provided.
I was recently at Spa, and had a lot of fun. I had a racelogic data logger, so I looked at my laps - and the looked at a lap I did in 2016 with the 997 RS. The difference in sound and in driver involvement is pretty significant...
I don't pretend to be a quick driver or anything - but for comparison here are two laps of Spa, one in the GT4 a few weeks ago, and one in the GT3RS back in 2016.
https://youtu.be/FizUuPMPO30?si=FXA9o61o6Bh0hA1X
https://youtu.be/V2ICnBBtGnQ?si=B3lMuw9YDc433QDs
And this has got me thinking that I may need to find myself a 997 GT3 of some sort...
Michael
ah yes, the 997.2 GT3 sounds better also because of the manual, I do not like the automatic sound from gear to gear, its to computer sounds-ish? lol, the 997.2 is more there.I was recently at Spa, and had a lot of fun. I had a racelogic data logger, so I looked at my laps - and the looked at a lap I did in 2016 with the 997 RS. The difference in sound and in driver involvement is pretty significant...
I don't pretend to be a quick driver or anything - but for comparison here are two laps of Spa, one in the GT4 a few weeks ago, and one in the GT3RS back in 2016.
https://youtu.be/FizUuPMPO30?si=FXA9o61o6Bh0hA1X
https://youtu.be/V2ICnBBtGnQ?si=B3lMuw9YDc433QDs
And this has got me thinking that I may need to find myself a 997 GT3 of some sort...
Michael
911’s - especially GT3’s are a very different dynamic experience from the mid engined GT4 - or from just about any other car for that matter. The pivot point of the mid engined car is just in front of the engine. The pivot point of a 911 is just behind the front axle - meaning that weight transfer becomes a far greater factor in extracting the performance. Exploring the outer limits of the performance of a 911 requires a higher degree of dynamic understanding and driver Input/skill. This makes the GT4 a more accessible car and a 911 a more rewarding one. I’ve driven 1000’s of race and track day laps in GT3’s and I still find nuances that unlock a little more potential. As dynamically proficient as they are, mid engined cars do not offer the same Challenges and rewards. They are however far more accessible At the outer limits of their performance capabilities
Although the Dynamic uniqueness of the 911 typically attracts a more hard core driver, In an effort to appeal to a larger driver demographic, over time Porsche have been re-engineering the GT3 Chassis to make it more accessible. This started with PASM, ABD and other electrical driver aids with the 997.1 GT3, then a wider front track with the 997.2. The 991 and all that followed had rear wheel steer, more electrical driving aids and the engine situated further forward. Finally, the 992 incorporated all these and a double wisbone front suspension. All iterations from the 997.1 have received more Sophisticated electrical and and active chassis components throughout the evolution.
If the OP places reward, engagement, tactility and challenge high on his priority list, this would be my List in priority order:
996RS
996 1/2 CS
996 1/2
997 1 RS
997 2 RS
997 1/2 CS
997 1/2
991/2 and 992 would probably start with the 2RS but this car has a genuine reliance on aero as a factor for the extraction of performance which arguably reduces tactility and involvement.
If the OP places outright pace over Driver engagement, tactility and involvement the list would effectively reverse. All GT3’s are incredibly capable cars, It really depends on where you place your priorities
Although the Dynamic uniqueness of the 911 typically attracts a more hard core driver, In an effort to appeal to a larger driver demographic, over time Porsche have been re-engineering the GT3 Chassis to make it more accessible. This started with PASM, ABD and other electrical driver aids with the 997.1 GT3, then a wider front track with the 997.2. The 991 and all that followed had rear wheel steer, more electrical driving aids and the engine situated further forward. Finally, the 992 incorporated all these and a double wisbone front suspension. All iterations from the 997.1 have received more Sophisticated electrical and and active chassis components throughout the evolution.
If the OP places reward, engagement, tactility and challenge high on his priority list, this would be my List in priority order:
996RS
996 1/2 CS
996 1/2
997 1 RS
997 2 RS
997 1/2 CS
997 1/2
991/2 and 992 would probably start with the 2RS but this car has a genuine reliance on aero as a factor for the extraction of performance which arguably reduces tactility and involvement.
If the OP places outright pace over Driver engagement, tactility and involvement the list would effectively reverse. All GT3’s are incredibly capable cars, It really depends on where you place your priorities
Edited by Steve Rance on Thursday 16th May 09:16
Out of your list I would opt for either a 991.2 GT3 or a 991.1 GT3 RS. The 4.0 litre engine is just incredible- stick a JCR or a Brookes race exhaust on it and you literally feel like you are driving a cup car around.
I personally have a 991.2 GT3 alongside my 981 GT4 and find both quite a different driving experience but 9 times out of 10 i grab the keys to the GT3 if I want a fun Sunday morning blast. With the GT4 given you can quite easily drive the car at its full potential whereas the GT3 commands a lot more work/respect (also much much faster of course).
When push comes to shove, I think I will replace the GT4 with a Spyder variant from either McLaren or Ferrari which I have boiled down to a Ferrari 458 or a 600LT (leaning towards the former for "specialness" factor). I recently drove a 488 Spyder and I would say that was good, but not great. So that is no longer on the list.
I personally have a 991.2 GT3 alongside my 981 GT4 and find both quite a different driving experience but 9 times out of 10 i grab the keys to the GT3 if I want a fun Sunday morning blast. With the GT4 given you can quite easily drive the car at its full potential whereas the GT3 commands a lot more work/respect (also much much faster of course).
When push comes to shove, I think I will replace the GT4 with a Spyder variant from either McLaren or Ferrari which I have boiled down to a Ferrari 458 or a 600LT (leaning towards the former for "specialness" factor). I recently drove a 488 Spyder and I would say that was good, but not great. So that is no longer on the list.
200Plus Club said:
I've recently swapped from a Gt4 to a 570s, the difference in speed is astonishing. I don't think I'd swap back as yet to porsche even for a GT3.
What about the build quality of the fit and finish of the 570? I've heard some horror stories of trim being stuck back together with double sided tape by main dealers. As good as McLaren seem to be the lottery of finding one without issues doesn't give me confidence especially over the fit and finish of Porsche.Armitage.Shanks said:
What about the build quality of the fit and finish of the 570? I've heard some horror stories of trim being stuck back together with double sided tape by main dealers. As good as McLaren seem to be the lottery of finding one without issues doesn't give me confidence especially over the fit and finish of Porsche.
The later cars appear to be much better, mines a 2019 and appears great so far. You can buy privately and retain/transfer the mclaren warranty for peace of mind. Thorney also do thoroughly inspected cars with their warranty. Its not as bad as the Internet would make out.Parts are supercar prices and only available from mclaren so it's eyes wide open going in, annual servicing unlike the 2 yr Porsche GT cars etc.
I'd happily go back to a GT3 or 4 after I've had my fun in the 570, but I'm glad I've stepped up to own one. You're welcome to a ride if you like.
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