What to follow a GT4 with?
Discussion
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this.
I’m currently daily driving a 718 GT4 manual which I’m absolutely loving. It’s going to become my second car on the near future with the birth of my second son last week.
I’m in no hurry to change but I like to have something to aim for in the near future. Which despite having never been a Porsche person growing up now that I am one, I very much want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.
The issue is at the kind of price point I’m looking at there are quite a few options all quite similar. In the sort of 100-180k bracket.
The current possible list:
991.2 GT3
991.2 GT3 RS
991.1 GT3 RS
992 GT3
GT4 RS
Left field idea keep the GT4 get a 488 spider to go alongside it.
I sort of feel like it has to be a 911 as I have never had one and you could argue that’s what Porsche is all about.
They are similar ish money with technically the same engine? Did things change dramatically between them?
The trouble is I don’t really know how to split them as they obviously have a lot in common. Reviews aren’t really helpful as they all get 5 star superlative filled reviews.
So what are the key differences? What would you be going for in my shoes?
It will be a strictly early morning blast and a few trackday a year car. Very unlikely to be used for road trips.
I’m currently daily driving a 718 GT4 manual which I’m absolutely loving. It’s going to become my second car on the near future with the birth of my second son last week.
I’m in no hurry to change but I like to have something to aim for in the near future. Which despite having never been a Porsche person growing up now that I am one, I very much want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.
The issue is at the kind of price point I’m looking at there are quite a few options all quite similar. In the sort of 100-180k bracket.
The current possible list:
991.2 GT3
991.2 GT3 RS
991.1 GT3 RS
992 GT3
GT4 RS
Left field idea keep the GT4 get a 488 spider to go alongside it.
I sort of feel like it has to be a 911 as I have never had one and you could argue that’s what Porsche is all about.
They are similar ish money with technically the same engine? Did things change dramatically between them?
The trouble is I don’t really know how to split them as they obviously have a lot in common. Reviews aren’t really helpful as they all get 5 star superlative filled reviews.
So what are the key differences? What would you be going for in my shoes?
It will be a strictly early morning blast and a few trackday a year car. Very unlikely to be used for road trips.
Spyder RS sounds like fun, although a GT4 RS will be faster on track, still I think the Spyder is more involving, but then, how many sunny days in the UK...
but if those GT3 + cars are on your bucket list, I guess its a good time for some of those to buy.
GT3 RS nice, although personally not a fan of big wings, so I would choose a nice Touring version with bucket seats, a bit like a cheap-ish ST
or... some say a 992 GT3 is very good and I guess in your range?
but if those GT3 + cars are on your bucket list, I guess its a good time for some of those to buy.
GT3 RS nice, although personally not a fan of big wings, so I would choose a nice Touring version with bucket seats, a bit like a cheap-ish ST
or... some say a 992 GT3 is very good and I guess in your range?
ntiz said:
In the sort of 100-180k bracket.
It will be a strictly early morning blast and a few trackday a year car. Very unlikely to be used for road trips.
thisIt will be a strictly early morning blast and a few trackday a year car. Very unlikely to be used for road trips.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16354491
GT4RS prices have started to slide a little and it probably ticks your box as something very special, but if you really do want a 911 then £120k will get you into a 991.2 GT3.
It's a big step up either way in your car +cash however to get the next level up from what you already have (which will keep up with most things if well driven on a fast country lane.)
£120k and up gets you into some very exotic special cars as opposed to a 911, probably worth test driving or going out in a GT3 or RS first.
It's a big step up either way in your car +cash however to get the next level up from what you already have (which will keep up with most things if well driven on a fast country lane.)
£120k and up gets you into some very exotic special cars as opposed to a 911, probably worth test driving or going out in a GT3 or RS first.
I switched from a highly modified 981 GT4 to a 991.2GT3RS ...
The 991.2 is a big step up from the 991.1 but still has the analogue interior, something that I dislike in the 992 ... personal preference.
The 911 has a lot of developments that wouldn't have been worthwhile on the GT4 ... multilink and RWS ... that engine and the best version of it ... PDK (which I like both on the road and on the track), and the frunk is big enough ... unlike the 992 GT3RS at any price.
It's quieter inside than the GT4RS for touring, the high wing gives great vision out of the rear window ... and in pre-particulate filter guise it has that timeless classic relative simplicity that will hopefully make it inexpensive to maintain ... unlike the 992 GT3RS ??
I've summarised somewhere the 991.1 to 991.2RS differences which I'll post when I find it ! It helped me in my decision ... just my 2p.
The 991.2 is a big step up from the 991.1 but still has the analogue interior, something that I dislike in the 992 ... personal preference.
The 911 has a lot of developments that wouldn't have been worthwhile on the GT4 ... multilink and RWS ... that engine and the best version of it ... PDK (which I like both on the road and on the track), and the frunk is big enough ... unlike the 992 GT3RS at any price.
It's quieter inside than the GT4RS for touring, the high wing gives great vision out of the rear window ... and in pre-particulate filter guise it has that timeless classic relative simplicity that will hopefully make it inexpensive to maintain ... unlike the 992 GT3RS ??
I've summarised somewhere the 991.1 to 991.2RS differences which I'll post when I find it ! It helped me in my decision ... just my 2p.
Edited by ChrisW. on Thursday 9th May 12:02
Edited by ChrisW. on Thursday 9th May 12:06
991.2 gt3 from your list, unless R/S is attainable but diminishing returns perhaps.
I’d avoid 991.1 given the issues, and I prefer the shape and noise of the 991 over the 992 tbh, although I’m sure the tech makes it more liveable.
The gt4rs is another cayman, the pinnacle but a better version of what you have.
I went through a similar cycle, and once the 911 itch is there you really just need to scratch it; cheaper int eh long run!
I’d avoid 991.1 given the issues, and I prefer the shape and noise of the 991 over the 992 tbh, although I’m sure the tech makes it more liveable.
The gt4rs is another cayman, the pinnacle but a better version of what you have.
I went through a similar cycle, and once the 911 itch is there you really just need to scratch it; cheaper int eh long run!
I'd try a 992 gt3 personally out of that list if you are wanting to change for something else. Might as well go for the latest and greatest (short of the rs anyway) and get the full range of improvements in dynamics and electronic integration. The 991 GT cars (either gen) will really just be pretty much like the 992 but worse.
200Plus Club said:
I've recently swapped from a Gt4 to a 570s, the difference in speed is astonishing. I don't think I'd swap back as yet to porsche even for a GT3.
A 570 PS 3.8 litre V8 with two turbos strapped onto it, with nearly 450 torques is much faster than a NA flat six GT4. Who’d have thunk it ? 
Slippydiff said:
A 570 PS 3.8 litre V8 with two turbos strapped onto it, with nearly 450 torques is much faster than a NA flat six GT4. Who’d have thunk it ?
Given they are the same weight roughly and handle very similarly on country lanes and are at the same price point if not cheaper than a 911 GT3 it's worth comparison. His GT4 plus perhaps £40-50k might not even get him into a 4RS. ntiz said:
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this.
I’m currently daily driving a 718 GT4 manual which I’m absolutely loving. It’s going to become my second car on the near future with the birth of my second son last week.
I’m in no hurry to change but I like to have something to aim for in the near future. Which despite having never been a Porsche person growing up now that I am one, I very much want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.
The issue is at the kind of price point I’m looking at there are quite a few options all quite similar. In the sort of 100-180k bracket.
The current possible list:
991.2 GT3
991.2 GT3 RS
991.1 GT3 RS
992 GT3
GT4 RS
Left field idea keep the GT4 get a 488 spider to go alongside it.
I sort of feel like it has to be a 911 as I have never had one and you could argue that’s what Porsche is all about.
They are similar ish money with technically the same engine? Did things change dramatically between them?
The trouble is I don’t really know how to split them as they obviously have a lot in common. Reviews aren’t really helpful as they all get 5 star superlative filled reviews.
So what are the key differences? What would you be going for in my shoes?
It will be a strictly early morning blast and a few trackday a year car. Very unlikely to be used for road trips.
A lot of stunning supercars also within reach if you are looking at 458/488 as well at your budget.I’m currently daily driving a 718 GT4 manual which I’m absolutely loving. It’s going to become my second car on the near future with the birth of my second son last week.
I’m in no hurry to change but I like to have something to aim for in the near future. Which despite having never been a Porsche person growing up now that I am one, I very much want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.
The issue is at the kind of price point I’m looking at there are quite a few options all quite similar. In the sort of 100-180k bracket.
The current possible list:
991.2 GT3
991.2 GT3 RS
991.1 GT3 RS
992 GT3
GT4 RS
Left field idea keep the GT4 get a 488 spider to go alongside it.
I sort of feel like it has to be a 911 as I have never had one and you could argue that’s what Porsche is all about.
They are similar ish money with technically the same engine? Did things change dramatically between them?
The trouble is I don’t really know how to split them as they obviously have a lot in common. Reviews aren’t really helpful as they all get 5 star superlative filled reviews.
So what are the key differences? What would you be going for in my shoes?
It will be a strictly early morning blast and a few trackday a year car. Very unlikely to be used for road trips.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024050894...
200Plus Club said:
Given they are the same weight roughly and handle very similarly on country lanes and are at the same price point if not cheaper than a 911 GT3 it's worth comparison. His GT4 plus perhaps £40-50k might not even get him into a 4RS.
My comments weren't meant to address any of those points, they were merely expressing disbelief at you expressing disbelief that the 570S was SO much quicker than the GT4.Thanks for all the responses everyone much appreciated.
To answer a couple of queries of my thinking.
Car to take the kids out in is in the plan as well. VW Multivan on order for the wife freeing up her Model Y performance which will be going for something like an M3/M5/E63 etc. My life is touch more complicated as my eldest is quite severely disabled so family trips out in a special car aren't going to be a thing. I look at 2 seaters because my wife is awesome and actively tells me not to compromise on my cars as they are the one part of my life that isn't affected by our situation. They are very much my escape. Probably why I spend so much time planning and plotting my next moves.
I appreciate why supercars are being suggested, however I see GT Porsches very much as top hole sport cars and super cars are something different. Thats not to say I don't want a supercar but its something I would want alongside a GT3/4 not instead of.
To give you the full grand 20 year plan to Ntiz motoring nirvana. The garage would be as follows:
Sportscar probably GT3 shaped.
Supercar idealy convertible probably Ferrari shaped.
Alfaholics GTAr built for me to my dream spec
Classic race car eligible for Spa and leman. Something like a Lotus 23, Elan, Austin Healey 100S.
My dads pre war Bentley. I will lose the house before I let that go.
As you can see I have put wwwaaaaayyyyyyy too much thought into it all. I am deadly serious about achieving it though.
Are the RS cars that much different to the "normal" GT3? They aren't that much lighter or more powerful but obviously look pretty wild (which I like). I think the main reason I would be looking to get out of my current GT4 is the desire to try the GT engine as it seems to be held up as one of THE great engines out there.
I do like a manual but im not sure I would be willing to stump up considerably more cash to have one. As seems to be the case with 991.2?
Thanks for reading my ramblings.
To answer a couple of queries of my thinking.
Car to take the kids out in is in the plan as well. VW Multivan on order for the wife freeing up her Model Y performance which will be going for something like an M3/M5/E63 etc. My life is touch more complicated as my eldest is quite severely disabled so family trips out in a special car aren't going to be a thing. I look at 2 seaters because my wife is awesome and actively tells me not to compromise on my cars as they are the one part of my life that isn't affected by our situation. They are very much my escape. Probably why I spend so much time planning and plotting my next moves.
I appreciate why supercars are being suggested, however I see GT Porsches very much as top hole sport cars and super cars are something different. Thats not to say I don't want a supercar but its something I would want alongside a GT3/4 not instead of.
To give you the full grand 20 year plan to Ntiz motoring nirvana. The garage would be as follows:
Sportscar probably GT3 shaped.
Supercar idealy convertible probably Ferrari shaped.
Alfaholics GTAr built for me to my dream spec
Classic race car eligible for Spa and leman. Something like a Lotus 23, Elan, Austin Healey 100S.
My dads pre war Bentley. I will lose the house before I let that go.
As you can see I have put wwwaaaaayyyyyyy too much thought into it all. I am deadly serious about achieving it though.
Are the RS cars that much different to the "normal" GT3? They aren't that much lighter or more powerful but obviously look pretty wild (which I like). I think the main reason I would be looking to get out of my current GT4 is the desire to try the GT engine as it seems to be held up as one of THE great engines out there.
I do like a manual but im not sure I would be willing to stump up considerably more cash to have one. As seems to be the case with 991.2?
Thanks for reading my ramblings.
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