2023 Tiguan R Line - dirty diesel

[Sheepshanks]

RayDonovan said:

The DSG in the Tiguan petrol may be a revised version compared to the Arteon which was a 2019 model. Ours was so bad that my Wife refused to drive it.

Apparently they do vary - people on here who got the bargain Passat Alltrack leases railed against the DSG in that.

We have all the stop/start and auto-hold stuff off - they make DSGs dim from rest.

[CalisenQX]

Interesting choice to get a diesel with BIK rates as they are and not an EV. Doesn’t seem your mileage is particular high either.
Having said that, it’s a nice looking thing and I bet a pretty good and comfy drive.

[RayDonovan]

CalisenQX said:

Interesting choice to get a diesel with BIK rates as they are and not an EV. Doesn’t seem your mileage is particular high either.
Having said that, it’s a nice looking thing and I bet a pretty good and comfy drive.

Cheers. No Electric options for our car scheme currently (although will be changing soon-ish)

[RayDonovan]

300 mile run to the Scottish Borders has made the front of the car a little dirty with bugs. Average of just over 57mpg.

[Terminator X]

RayDonovan said:

"16 month wait for a VW diesel, you must be mad"

I work for one of the largest privately owned companies in the world and we still insist on company cars, I used to think it was a real burden but actually, I like the policy.

Back in 2021, my 2019 Arteon was coming towards the end of the contract and I was given access to our online portal to order. Back then, the choice was pretty good

3/5 series
High spec Audi A3/A4
Most VWs

Put my order in for a standard R Line Diesel and was told 4-6 months, time went on, the order kept getting pushed back. First it was semi conductors, then the war in Ukraine.
After a 15 month wait, enough was enough - I managed to speak with someone higher up at the dealership and they arranged a conference call involving my fleet manager, VW, the dealer and the leasing company and below is what I was 'allocated'



Standard 2023 spec, no options but they come fairly well specc'd as standard. Silly big wheels (which don't look that big but are 20").

Nice to be back in a diesel after 4 years and 60k in a gutless 1.5Tsi. I've done just short of 400 miles this week and it's a really nice place to spend the time.

Not the most PH of cars, but considering people at my work can only order a Golf or 2 series BMW now due to price escalation, I've done really well. The BIK is alot, but obviously don't have to pay for any lease costs, insurance, maintenance or repairs.

O/T I ordered a RS3 in Nov 21, still no sign of it and absolutely no comms from Audi or dealer.

TX.

[SHutchinson]

We bought a Tiguan R Line tech in 2019, it's causing me a real headache now because as a second car I'm really struggling to find a suitable replacement that doesn't cost £10k more with the same kit.

I'm thinking about replacing it with a black edition, but they don't seem to come in 4x4 yet.

[RayDonovan]

SHutchinson said:

We bought a Tiguan R Line tech in 2019, it's causing me a real headache now because as a second car I'm really struggling to find a suitable replacement that doesn't cost £10k more with the same kit.

I'm thinking about replacing it with a black edition, but they don't seem to come in 4x4 yet.

They're a good family car. Big enough without being too big, economical and look decent.

[SHutchinson]

RayDonovan said:

SHutchinson said:

We bought a Tiguan R Line tech in 2019, it's causing me a real headache now because as a second car I'm really struggling to find a suitable replacement that doesn't cost £10k more with the same kit.

I'm thinking about replacing it with a black edition, but they don't seem to come in 4x4 yet.

They're a good family car. Big enough without being too big, economical and look decent.

Exactly. I know it's cool to moan about bland white boxes, but for our family it hits every requirement. It's surprisingly nimble around town, for the school/nursery run and with a roof box on top it'll cheerfully haul our family from Newcastle to the Isle of Skye with all of our kit.

We've got the 150bhp 2.0 diesel and I will say that if the car/gearbox isn't in sport mode then pulling out into fast traffic can be a white knuckle experience! But, once it's moving it's fine.

[RayDonovan]

SHutchinson said:

RayDonovan said:

SHutchinson said:

We bought a Tiguan R Line tech in 2019, it's causing me a real headache now because as a second car I'm really struggling to find a suitable replacement that doesn't cost £10k more with the same kit.

I'm thinking about replacing it with a black edition, but they don't seem to come in 4x4 yet.

They're a good family car. Big enough without being too big, economical and look decent.

Exactly. I know it's cool to moan about bland white boxes, but for our family it hits every requirement. It's surprisingly nimble around town, for the school/nursery run and with a roof box on top it'll cheerfully haul our family from Newcastle to the Isle of Skye with all of our kit.

We've got the 150bhp 2.0 diesel and I will say that if the car/gearbox isn't in sport mode then pulling out into fast traffic can be a white knuckle experience! But, once it's moving it's fine.

The 2023 'box seems ok. I had a 2019 Arteon DSG and that was poor. The Tiguan box is very smooth, even from standstill

[Sheepshanks]

SHutchinson said:

We've got the 150bhp 2.0 diesel and I will say that if the car/gearbox isn't in sport mode then pulling out into fast traffic can be a white knuckle experience! But, once it's moving it's fine.

Is yours front wheel drive - I wonder if the torque is limited from standstill?

Ours (same engine) is 4Motion and no issues from rest. Going from over-run to drive at a slow speed, say when joining a roundabout, can be a little iffy, I think as the gearbox takes a moment - apparently can be a whole second worst case, which feels like an eternity, to figure out what your doing and if you react by pressing the throttle harder it just confuses it even more. I've learned to have faith and it's fine.

[Mark V GTD]

RayDonovan said:

300 mile run to the Scottish Borders has made the front of the car a little dirty with bugs. Average of just over 57mpg.

Wow thats properly covered in bugs!

I finally got the email last week that my car (same as yours but the petrol version) is built and awaiting the ship at Emden docks!

Wil have been 22 months start to finish for this one.

[RayDonovan]

Mark V GTD said:

RayDonovan said:

300 mile run to the Scottish Borders has made the front of the car a little dirty with bugs. Average of just over 57mpg.

Wow thats properly covered in bugs!

I finally got the email last week that my car (same as yours but the petrol version) is built and awaiting the ship at Emden docks!

Wil have been 22 months start to finish for this one.

Good news!
I only got mine earlier as I kicked off with VW UK and the lease company..

[SHutchinson]

Sheepshanks said:

SHutchinson said:

We've got the 150bhp 2.0 diesel and I will say that if the car/gearbox isn't in sport mode then pulling out into fast traffic can be a white knuckle experience! But, once it's moving it's fine.

Is yours front wheel drive - I wonder if the torque is limited from standstill?

Ours (same engine) is 4Motion and no issues from rest. Going from over-run to drive at a slow speed, say when joining a roundabout, can be a little iffy, I think as the gearbox takes a moment - apparently can be a whole second worst case, which feels like an eternity, to figure out what your doing and if you react by pressing the throttle harder it just confuses it even more. I've learned to have faith and it's fine.

Ours is 4Motion too. It's as you describe really, a tiny bit of clumsiness in the gearbox mixed with the turbo needing to spool up etc. It's not life-endangering, I've committed to muscle memory jumping in and deactivating the stop-start then putting the gearbox in sport.

[cliffords]

Got4wheels said:

I'm astonished you can get a diesel as a company car in 2023!

Michael

Me too, you work for one of the biggest privately owned companies . What on earth is the policy on environment , sustainability etc .
Its incredible you can get a diesel car .

I have just finished work for the largest UK Bank and the policy is Electric or walk . Now no exceptions .
Its a whole other subject as I consider the electric route utter folly, but the diesel route is absolutely proven appalling consequences .

Cant believe the car policy at your place would allow .

[Mark V GTD]

RayDonovan said:

Good news!
I only got mine earlier as I kicked off with VW UK and the lease company..

Thanks and yes its been a long time coming. I have had four cars in the period since the Tiguan should have been delivered (March 2022) so its been an interesting experience!

[RayDonovan]

cliffords said:

Got4wheels said:

I'm astonished you can get a diesel as a company car in 2023!

Michael

Me too, you work for one of the biggest privately owned companies . What on earth is the policy on environment , sustainability etc .
Its incredible you can get a diesel car .

I have just finished work for the largest UK Bank and the policy is Electric or walk . Now no exceptions .
Its a whole other subject as I consider the electric route utter folly, but the diesel route is absolutely proven appalling consequences .

Cant believe the car policy at your place would allow .

True. They have just announced an Electric car policy that is supposed to be rolling out into the UK fairly soon - what that will mean for my current car i have no idea. There are rumours that we will order an electric car and pay an early termination fee for any of the current petrol and diesel fleet.

[iphonedyou]

cliffords said:

Me too, you work for one of the biggest privately owned companies . What on earth is the policy on environment , sustainability etc .
Its incredible you can get a diesel car .

I have just finished work for the largest UK Bank and the policy is Electric or walk . Now no exceptions .
Its a whole other subject as I consider the electric route utter folly, but the diesel route is absolutely proven appalling consequences .

Cant believe the car policy at your place would allow .

It's not really that surprising, to be honest. In fact I'm surprised you're surprised.

[cliffords]

iphonedyou said:

cliffords said:

Me too, you work for one of the biggest privately owned companies . What on earth is the policy on environment , sustainability etc .
Its incredible you can get a diesel car .

I have just finished work for the largest UK Bank and the policy is Electric or walk . Now no exceptions .
Its a whole other subject as I consider the electric route utter folly, but the diesel route is absolutely proven appalling consequences .

Cant believe the car policy at your place would allow .

It's not really that surprising, to be honest. In fact I'm surprised you're surprised.

I did not say I was surprised .

[iphonedyou]

cliffords said:

I did not say I was surprised .

I did not say you did.

[RayDonovan]

iphonedyou said:

cliffords said:

I did not say I was surprised .

I did not say you did.

You mind arguing elsewhere please.