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LTP said:
I agree - it'll buff out.
A bit like this one
We could have a "Guess the speech" competition for the guy in red waving his arms about
This appears to be a mechanical failure of the rear portion of the lifting ramp - it’s fallen off and is on the ground. I would have thought that a driver would have been in the car - hopefully he avoided injury!A bit like this one
We could have a "Guess the speech" competition for the guy in red waving his arms about
My DB9 was delivered via a similar truck and it scared the daylights out of me watching the delivery driver take the car out on that ramp seemingly inches from driving it straight off. He had a wireless remote control for the ramp and this picture was taken when he was most of the way down. I think my hands were shaking too much when he was all the way up (the car being on the upper level).
Simpo Two said:
As I understand it the value of the claim is fairly unimportant, it's just the fact it's a claim. Although having said that I have been asked the value of repairs.
Depends also on a few factors including who the Insurer is , what the previous record of the individual , how much was their previous premium ( ie how much money in the kitty has been eroded ) , and more importantly whether they want to keep him as an Insured or not !Generally speaking Car Insurers will look at the loss quantum in bands and then combine all the details needed.
I’m guessing the loss circumstances won’t have been necessarily actuarily modelled though
Incidents of this type often involve elderly drivers, who are caught out by having slow reactions, or having limited experience with automatic gearboxes.
There is a wide variation of older driver ability of course, because some surprisingly old drivers still race very well in amateur motor sport.
Another factor that tends to arise, is where an older person changes from always having driving a manual car, to an automatic car.
An unexpected move backwards might result in more weight being placed on the accelerator foot, making a quick move to the brake pedal even more difficult to accomplish.
Stabbing with the left foot onto a non existent clutch pedal would not help.
In my neighbourhood, an incident of this type occurred many years ago, when a car was being reversed out from a domestic garage.
It shot across a road before hitting a neighbours car, which was rolled over into a front garden. Very spectacular. James Bond stunts in a sleepy housing development. I don't think that motorist ever drove again.
Edited by Jon39 on Friday 10th May 17:51
Jon39 said:
Incidents of this type often involve elderly drivers, who are caught out by having slow reactions, or having limited experience with automatic gearboxes.
There is a wide variation of older driver ability of course, because some surprisingly old drivers still race very well in amateur motor sport.
Another factor that tends to arise, is where an older person changes from always having driving a manual car, to an automatic car.
An unexpected move backwards might result in more weight being placed on the accelerator foot, making a quick move to the brake pedal even more difficult to accomplish.
Stabbing with the left foot onto a non existent clutch pedal would not help.
In my neighbourhood, an incident of this type occurred many years ago, when a car was being reversed out from a domestic garage.
It shot across a road before hitting a neighbours car, which was rolled over into a front garden. Very spectacular. James Bond stunts in a sleepy housing development. I don't think that motorist ever drove again.
Are you serious? Who the F*** doesn’t know how to drive an automatic transmission? There is a wide variation of older driver ability of course, because some surprisingly old drivers still race very well in amateur motor sport.
Another factor that tends to arise, is where an older person changes from always having driving a manual car, to an automatic car.
An unexpected move backwards might result in more weight being placed on the accelerator foot, making a quick move to the brake pedal even more difficult to accomplish.
Stabbing with the left foot onto a non existent clutch pedal would not help.
In my neighbourhood, an incident of this type occurred many years ago, when a car was being reversed out from a domestic garage.
It shot across a road before hitting a neighbours car, which was rolled over into a front garden. Very spectacular. James Bond stunts in a sleepy housing development. I don't think that motorist ever drove again.
Edited by Jon39 on Friday 10th May 17:51
AstonV said:
Are you serious? Who doesn’t know how to drive an automatic transmission?
It is true.
Probably a difference each side of the Atlantic Ocean, Andy.
Would I be correct to think, that auto transmissions have been in the majority of USA light vehicles for decades?
Not so here in the UK. Manuals have been standard in most everyday cars, until quite recently.
Combine that with an old person, who has never had any interest in cars, buying a two peddler for the first time and not concentrating properly. A low speed manoeuvring collision waiting to happen.
AstonV said:
Are you serious? Who the F*** doesn’t know how to drive an automatic transmission?
Ask yourself why we now have all these interlocks where you have to have a foot on the brake or depress the clutch before you can start the car, or put the transmission into drive. It's because people didn't know how to drive them and many jurisdictions didn't (and some still don't) really test the driver's ability to control the car.Before fellow UK licence-holders get smug about the rigours of our driving test (two-part now; not when I passed) consider that if you pass in a manual you were and still are let loose in an auto with no training in how to engage the gears safely, the fact that autos crawl in 'D' and the implications of not having a clutch to decouple the engine.
Apocryphally, one mistake of a habitual manual driver getting into an auto for the first time is, once the initial concentration lapses and the autonomous brain takes over, the left foot reasserts its need to press a pedal to the floor ready to shift when the car is being slowed, resulting in an unintended emergency stop. Another issue is the finesse required on the throttle when manoeuvring at low speed, but without a clutch to help control the power delivery.
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Edited by LTP on Saturday 11th May 10:10
David W. said:
volvodrummer said:
That one way to drain the condensation. LTP said:
Ask yourself why we now have all these interlocks where you have to have a foot on the brake or depress the clutch before you can start the car, or put the transmission into drive. It's because people didn't know how to drive them and many jurisdictions didn't (and some still don't) really test the driver's ability to control the car.
Before fellow UK licence-holders get smug about the rigours of our driving test (two-part now; not when I passed) consider that if you pass in a manual you were and still are let loose in an auto with no training in how to engage the gears safely, the fact that autos crawl in 'D' and the implications of not having a clutch to decouple the engine.
Apocryphally, one mistake of a habitual manual driver getting into an auto for the first time is, once the initial concentration lapses and the autonomous brain takes over, the left foot reasserts its need to press a pedal to the floor ready to shift when the car is being slowed, resulting in an unintended emergency stop. Another issue is the finesse required on the throttle when manoeuvring at low speed, but without a clutch to help control the power delivery.
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You may be right. I remember my father teaching my grandfather how to drive an automatic. He drove with one foot on the brake and one on the gas pedal, not wise. My father made him tuck his left foot off to the side so he had to operate the brake and gas with his right foot.Before fellow UK licence-holders get smug about the rigours of our driving test (two-part now; not when I passed) consider that if you pass in a manual you were and still are let loose in an auto with no training in how to engage the gears safely, the fact that autos crawl in 'D' and the implications of not having a clutch to decouple the engine.
Apocryphally, one mistake of a habitual manual driver getting into an auto for the first time is, once the initial concentration lapses and the autonomous brain takes over, the left foot reasserts its need to press a pedal to the floor ready to shift when the car is being slowed, resulting in an unintended emergency stop. Another issue is the finesse required on the throttle when manoeuvring at low speed, but without a clutch to help control the power delivery.
edited to cut (even more) boring stuff out
Edited by LTP on Saturday 11th May 10:10
Now I think most Americans have know idea how to drive a manual and haven't for many decades.
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