2.7 tdvi engine - a borkage waiting to happen?

2.7 tdvi engine - a borkage waiting to happen?

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TheAngryDog

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12,418 posts

210 months

Friday 10th May
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I really, really, really fancy an X358 XJ, but in diesel flavour.

I know that the 2.7 td engine has a reputation, but is it guaranteed to snap the crank or will a looked after one that is still running today generally be ok, if continued to be looked after?

Thanks.

Vsix and Vtec

666 posts

19 months

Friday 10th May
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I don't think they have a reputation for that, I think that was more the 3.0 TDV6 but specifically it was more common in the Discovery. The 2.7 was more prone to lack of maintenance, as the engine has drivebelts at both the front and back of the engine (auxiliary at the front and I think oil pump or fuel at the back?), and quite often they wouldn't get changed.

Stick Legs

5,058 posts

166 months

Friday 10th May
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I spend a lot of time around these as a mate of mine works on them.

Some neglected Disco3’s appear to waddle on forever.

Some pampered & adored XF Jags go pop at 45-65k.

Is it a casting defect?

Is it improper torquing of crank pulleys or bearings?

Is it oil dilution?

When they work they are fabulous.

The cars that they are fitted in are criminally underrated.

Buy it, change the oil at 6k miles.

Watch LandRoverTime on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/YGvQAbM_YQY?si=dL9sZsTjUqafPqsI

Especially this oil video.

If the worst happens it can be fixed.

Stick Legs

5,058 posts

166 months

Friday 10th May
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This was running when it came in & was knocking like a hammer!

Fast and Spurious

1,353 posts

89 months

Friday 10th May
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Dear Lord!

Simpo Two

85,754 posts

266 months

Friday 10th May
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TheAngryDog said:
I really, really, really fancy an X358 XJ, but in diesel flavour.

I know that the 2.7 td engine has a reputation, but is it guaranteed to snap the crank or will a looked after one that is still running today generally be ok, if continued to be looked after?
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Thanks.
I had a 2.7D S-Type. It was on about 130K miles when I sold it and it was a great engine, no problems at all. I loved the power delivery, especially when you hit cruise resume!

I even put unleaded in it once by mistake - it wasn't very happy but made a full recovery.

reddiesel

2,003 posts

48 months

Saturday 11th May
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TheAngryDog said:
I really, really, really fancy an X358 XJ, but in diesel flavour.

I know that the 2.7 td engine has a reputation, but is it guaranteed to snap the crank or will a looked after one that is still running today generally be ok, if continued to be looked after?

Thanks.
Well you will certainly have plenty to choose from and as in all things my advice is to buy the best you can afford . I often have a look on the Autotrader especially at the earlier X350 and high mileages are far from uncommon . Regular Oil and Filter changes as someone said earlier is of major benefit when it comes to any diesel engined vehicle , I run several Mercedes Commercials and I change religiously every 5000 miles and 350,000 miles is easily achievable . I would take my time and look for a good one because as values of these Jaguar decline so too does proper maintenance . Can I ask why the Diesel Jaguar ?

Stick Legs

5,058 posts

166 months

Saturday 11th May
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Fancy an X351?

I know where this is up for £10k



3.0 diesel.

danmarr14

169 posts

141 months

Sunday 12th May
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Stick Legs said:
Fancy an X351?

I know where this is up for £10k



3.0 diesel.
The 3.0 Diesels are more reliable than the 2.7s in these aren't they?

That looks good that car!

Stick Legs

5,058 posts

166 months

Sunday 12th May
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danmarr14 said:
Stick Legs said:
Fancy an X351?

I know where this is up for £10k



3.0 diesel.
The 3.0 Diesels are more reliable than the 2.7s in these aren't they?

That looks good that car!
It came in knocking.
It’s had it’s bottom end done.

Nice car, pulls well. If it was mine I’d get the alloys refurbished & some good tyres on it but it’s great value.


danmarr14

169 posts

141 months

Sunday 12th May
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Stick Legs said:
danmarr14 said:
Stick Legs said:
Fancy an X351?

I know where this is up for £10k



3.0 diesel.
The 3.0 Diesels are more reliable than the 2.7s in these aren't they?

That looks good that car!
It came in knocking.
It’s had it’s bottom end done.

Nice car, pulls well. If it was mine I’d get the alloys refurbished & some good tyres on it but it’s great value.
Was it a big job to do the bottom end? I know you see a few reports of them going on them but I think it is less on the Euro5 ones and more on the E6?

Yeah I can see it would be a good idea to do those but circa £1500 job?

V12 Migaloo

817 posts

147 months

Monday 13th May
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I had major issues with my X350 2.7, restricted performance on full throttle loads. It had shed loads of warranty work, DPF, EGR valves, injectors, turbo's, bushes, compressor, etc etc. most of the engine problems was then attributed to crimped cables which were changed and the car ran fine, until a drive back from Manchester, stopped to collected my boy from nursery, restarted and the bottom end started knocking. In the end the finance company coughed up and paid back the full cost of the car plus buggeration factor, but it was a hurtful fight and a long one at that, it tainted my respect for modern Jags and bought 3 new Audi's since then, no issues, not stoppages. I did post a topic about it and got slated by most piston headers, simply saying I should've purchased extended warranty fact is the 2.7 was a duffer from the drawing board.

Edited by V12 Migaloo on Monday 13th May 10:06


Edited by V12 Migaloo on Monday 13th May 10:07

TheAngryDog

Original Poster:

12,418 posts

210 months

Wednesday 15th May
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reddiesel said:
Can I ask why the Diesel Jaguar ?
Sure - They're affordable. I'd love a V8 / XJR, but they're out of range, whereas the TDVi's seem to be worth 30p.

V12 Migaloo

817 posts

147 months

Thursday 16th May
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TheAngryDog said:
Sure - They're affordable. I'd love a V8 / XJR, but they're out of range, whereas the TDVi's seem to be worth 30p.
On a run to Milan, Italy, when mine worked, I made it near enough to Chamonix without having to refill, and that was from Surrey, nearly 700 miles, all on cruise at 80 mph... a really delightful car when she ran well. In hind site, I should've bought the 3.0 V6 Petrol, I would be stopping a hundred or so miles earlier, but I believe I would still own that car.

Edited by V12 Migaloo on Thursday 16th May 10:19

P700DEE

1,119 posts

231 months

Thursday 16th May
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TheAngryDog said:
reddiesel said:
Can I ask why the Diesel Jaguar ?
Sure - They're affordable. I'd love a V8 / XJR, but they're out of range, whereas the TDVi's seem to be worth 30p.
??? I bought an 04 plate XJ8 for £1660 of ebay in 2022, ran it for a year and sold it for £1700 . How cheap are you looking? There are loads of V8s below £3K and they are ULEZ free too. Diesels are not ULEZ free as only Euro 5.

TheAngryDog

Original Poster:

12,418 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th May
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P700DEE said:
TheAngryDog said:
reddiesel said:
Can I ask why the Diesel Jaguar ?
Sure - They're affordable. I'd love a V8 / XJR, but they're out of range, whereas the TDVi's seem to be worth 30p.
??? I bought an 04 plate XJ8 for £1660 of ebay in 2022, ran it for a year and sold it for £1700 . How cheap are you looking? There are loads of V8s below £3K and they are ULEZ free too. Diesels are not ULEZ free as only Euro 5.
I want an X358 specifically. I don't need to worry about ULEZ, my M5 and Mini are both ULEZ (and everywhere else LEZ) compliant. I can't pick up a petrol X358 for under £6k.