RE: New Toyota Land Cruiser launched in UK
Discussion
Getragdogleg said:
I really like it but id buy the Landcruiser 70 series V8 that the Japanese market got over this.
Japan doesnt get a 70 series V8. They only get a V6 petrol.Australian market has the option of the old non common rail 4.5 V8 diesel or the newer 2.8 D used in this which actually has more power and torque.
JW911 said:
Needs a decent (not a 4-pot) petrol engine. Harry M mentioned emissions as the reason why not during his desert review. I presume it’s more a case of Toyota not wanting to spend the money for a limited return rather than being unable.
Shame. I’d be sorely tempted to move out of my L322 otherwise.
That was the 300 Series wasn't it? Although I guess the point stands. Shame. I’d be sorely tempted to move out of my L322 otherwise.
NomduJour said:
ChocolateFrog said:
despite the fact the Toyota will be by far the better ownership prospect
Why? Everyone I know I with a Defender loves it, and they are clearly better to drive and nicer to be in.I'd much, much rather be at the behest of a Toyota dealer than a LR one.
Familymad said:
I have loads of colleagues and friends with the new Defender and 2023 RRS. Faultless all of them.
Here's an example of a "faultless" RRS:https://youtu.be/RHXXCTAD1GM?t=163
NGK210 said:
Familymad said:
I have loads of colleagues and friends with the new Defender and 2023 RRS. Faultless all of them.
Here's an example of a "faultless" RRS:https://youtu.be/RHXXCTAD1GM?t=163
Fine if you want to spend £70k on Russian roulette but I am not into such games so LC every day of the week.
Standard model in the US costs $63,345 (£50,724).
And the Yanks get the i-FORCE Max (iFM) engine - petrol 2.4-litre turbo hybrid - which has 326hp and 465lb-ft, and similar(ish) / better MPG compared to the 200bhp diesel.
Being a petrol hybrid, iFM would comply for longer with ULEZ-type regs as they become stricter and more widespread in the UK - the diesel won't.
In essence, the iFM is the power-unit in the Lexus RX500h, which is on sale in Europe and obviously complies with our emission regs.
So, why doesn't Europe get the iFM as an option?
Fun Throttle House vid re. new LC:
https://youtu.be/RDcOOoDqcto?t=3
And the Yanks get the i-FORCE Max (iFM) engine - petrol 2.4-litre turbo hybrid - which has 326hp and 465lb-ft, and similar(ish) / better MPG compared to the 200bhp diesel.
Being a petrol hybrid, iFM would comply for longer with ULEZ-type regs as they become stricter and more widespread in the UK - the diesel won't.
In essence, the iFM is the power-unit in the Lexus RX500h, which is on sale in Europe and obviously complies with our emission regs.
So, why doesn't Europe get the iFM as an option?
Fun Throttle House vid re. new LC:
https://youtu.be/RDcOOoDqcto?t=3
Edited by NGK210 on Saturday 27th April 10:47
Not a looker to my eye the Defender is definitely has it beat in the there.
Never been a Jap fan tbh the interiors are just too low rent / cheap looking for me but have a few mates that's had/still got Land Cruisers and there not as 'bullet proof' as everyone says, I've had (way) less issues with my LR stuff than them.
Take of that what you will...
Never been a Jap fan tbh the interiors are just too low rent / cheap looking for me but have a few mates that's had/still got Land Cruisers and there not as 'bullet proof' as everyone says, I've had (way) less issues with my LR stuff than them.
Take of that what you will...
milne17 said:
Not a looker to my eye the Defender is definitely has it beat in the there.
Never been a Jap fan tbh the interiors are just too low rent / cheap looking for me but have a few mates that's had/still got Land Cruisers and there not as 'bullet proof' as everyone says, I've had (way) less issues with my LR stuff than them.
Take of that what you will...
Each to their own and nothing wrong with that. Enjoy whatever you buy Never been a Jap fan tbh the interiors are just too low rent / cheap looking for me but have a few mates that's had/still got Land Cruisers and there not as 'bullet proof' as everyone says, I've had (way) less issues with my LR stuff than them.
Take of that what you will...
biggbn said:
milne17 said:
Not a looker to my eye the Defender is definitely has it beat in the there.
Never been a Jap fan tbh the interiors are just too low rent / cheap looking for me but have a few mates that's had/still got Land Cruisers and there not as 'bullet proof' as everyone says, I've had (way) less issues with my LR stuff than them.
Take of that what you will...
Each to their own and nothing wrong with that. Enjoy whatever you buy Never been a Jap fan tbh the interiors are just too low rent / cheap looking for me but have a few mates that's had/still got Land Cruisers and there not as 'bullet proof' as everyone says, I've had (way) less issues with my LR stuff than them.
Take of that what you will...
I feel those moaning about the engine have missed the point. It's not a vehicle designed to make you feel good about yourself or to enjoy as such.
It's designed to move people and stuff wherever you could possibly need them, with a minimum of fuss, for the next 15+ years. The 2.8d is an effective power unit for this end.
You'd have to really want though for twice the price of a pick-up that does largely the same job mind.
It's designed to move people and stuff wherever you could possibly need them, with a minimum of fuss, for the next 15+ years. The 2.8d is an effective power unit for this end.
You'd have to really want though for twice the price of a pick-up that does largely the same job mind.
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