RE: New Toyota Land Cruiser launched in UK
Discussion
emix said:
Americans get a far more interesting engine option. A petrol hybrid with 300+ hp, we get this tractor engine. 200 hp is not acceptable in 2024 on such a large vehicle.
The reviews state how effortlessly it pulls from low down. It’s got a very fat and flat torque curve.Your “200bhp” quote shows that you just don’t get it.
Does anyone know how you order? As I’m registered online but can’t seem to find anywhere to order?
Frankychops said:
emix said:
Americans get a far more interesting engine option. A petrol hybrid with 300+ hp, we get this tractor engine. 200 hp is not acceptable in 2024 on such a large vehicle.
The reviews state how effortlessly it pulls from low down. It’s got a very fat and flat torque curve.Your “200bhp” quote shows that you just don’t get it.
…
The hybrid is also more fuel efficient.
And it’s less polluting.
And, in turn, it would be future-proofed against low-emission zones for longer compared to the diesel.
Very tin-eared of Toyota to not give Europe a choice. Why?
NGK210 said:
Frankychops said:
emix said:
Americans get a far more interesting engine option. A petrol hybrid with 300+ hp, we get this tractor engine. 200 hp is not acceptable in 2024 on such a large vehicle.
The reviews state how effortlessly it pulls from low down. It’s got a very fat and flat torque curve.Your “200bhp” quote shows that you just don’t get it.
…
The hybrid is also more fuel efficient.
And it’s less polluting.
And, in turn, it would be future-proofed against low-emission zones for longer compared to the diesel.
Very tin-eared of Toyota to not give Europe a choice. Why?
dinsey said:
Sub 50k like rumoured would have bought one.
No chance at 70+.
Would take a defender instead
I keep seeing stuff like this. Given that the (very) old ones in Invincible spec are still selling in no time at all for comfortably north of £60k, and that new car prices generally have gone a bit bonkers over the last few years, who in their right mind thought that the top-of-the-range, completely revamped new one was going to be sub £50k?No chance at 70+.
Would take a defender instead
Roger Irrelevant said:
I keep seeing stuff like this. Given that the (very) old ones in Invincible spec are still selling in no time at all for comfortably north of £60k, and that new car prices generally have gone a bit bonkers over the last few years, who in their right mind thought that the top-of-the-range, completely revamped new one was going to be sub £50k?
People who are in denial about their place in the wealth spectrum I would imagine. Same group who think a 6+ cylinder sports car is still around £40kI called the diesel out as too slow in the modern world. I was told making it fast would add too much weight and ruin the product. I pointed to the V8 already available, just not here. I was told the diesel was the best engine known to man and if you wanted more pace you were an idiot.
I'm clearly an idiot.
I'm clearly an idiot.
Baldchap said:
I called the diesel out as too slow in the modern world. I was told making it fast would add too much weight and ruin the product. I pointed to the V8 already available, just not here. I was told the diesel was the best engine known to man and if you wanted more pace you were an idiot.
I'm clearly an idiot.
Point is - they can’t sell that engine hereI'm clearly an idiot.
D4rez said:
Baldchap said:
I called the diesel out as too slow in the modern world. I was told making it fast would add too much weight and ruin the product. I pointed to the V8 already available, just not here. I was told the diesel was the best engine known to man and if you wanted more pace you were an idiot.
I'm clearly an idiot.
Point is - they can’t sell that engine hereI'm clearly an idiot.
The current ‘big beast’ Land Cruiser is the 300, which now has either a petrol or diesel V6 twin turbo.
IIRC, it’s only on sale in Oz, Japan and the Middle East? (Withdrawn from Russia because of Ukraine?)
The version we’re getting in Europe is the smaller 250 / Prado.
The 250 variant with useful grunt has a petrol 4-cyl turbo hybrid, and it’s only avlbl in the US.
The US also gets a Lexus version of the 250, the GX550, which has a petrol V6 twin turbo.
rwindmill said:
Hmmmmm, take a Landrover Defender, some tracing paper and.......................voila!!
The KIA EV9 is the same.
It would appear that all the design houses in the world, have had every piece of equipment stolen from their studios, with the exception of a ruler and a pencil.
The KIA EV9 looks nothing like the Defender, thankfully. In fact, it looks orders of magnitude better.The KIA EV9 is the same.
It would appear that all the design houses in the world, have had every piece of equipment stolen from their studios, with the exception of a ruler and a pencil.
NGK210 said:
Frankychops said:
emix said:
Americans get a far more interesting engine option. A petrol hybrid with 300+ hp, we get this tractor engine. 200 hp is not acceptable in 2024 on such a large vehicle.
The reviews state how effortlessly it pulls from low down. It’s got a very fat and flat torque curve.Your “200bhp” quote shows that you just don’t get it.
…
The hybrid is also more fuel efficient.
And it’s less polluting.
And, in turn, it would be future-proofed against low-emission zones for longer compared to the diesel.
Very tin-eared of Toyota to not give Europe a choice. Why?
Bernt Tuakrisp said:
I’m trying to figure out why the article says they are all already spoken for when ordering hasn’t opened yet? Anyone the wiser? I was expecting ordering to open on line and it be a frenzy like it was in Germany - all sold in less than 30mins
Yeah, I'd be keen to know too, as I'm registered online, and with two dealers, and am a current LC owner, so would have expected to have had a little more 'official' news by now, rather than relying on YouTube and the rumours in the motoring press.Frankychops said:
NGK210 said:
Frankychops said:
emix said:
Americans get a far more interesting engine option. A petrol hybrid with 300+ hp, we get this tractor engine. 200 hp is not acceptable in 2024 on such a large vehicle.
The reviews state how effortlessly it pulls from low down. It’s got a very fat and flat torque curve.Your “200bhp” quote shows that you just don’t get it.
…
The hybrid is also more fuel efficient.
And it’s less polluting.
And, in turn, it would be future-proofed against low-emission zones for longer compared to the diesel.
Very tin-eared of Toyota to not give Europe a choice. Why?
Bernt Tuakrisp said:
I’m trying to figure out why the article says they are all already spoken for when ordering hasn’t opened yet? Anyone the wiser? I was expecting ordering to open on line and it be a frenzy like it was in Germany - all sold in less than 30mins
I don't understand this either. It doesn't seem possible to order one yet. Way it worked in Germany seemed relatively fair and clear.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff