FUEL TANK SENDER UNIT 53200141, Tank brackets, filler cap

[Griff43V8]

FUEL TANK SENDER UNIT 53200141

This has a TVR 1 circuit board

Suggested supplier for this, calibrated to the early 4.3 instruments (black rim)?


Fuel tank brackets (seen them somewhere last few days, but mislaid link)


Filler cap - one with crimped fastening to outer rim, not the one with a bar in the middle

thanks

[Belle427]

Most oem type parts come from these places.
https://motaclan.com/product-category/tvr/
https://racetechdirect.co.uk/
https://www.tvrssw.com/parts

[Griff43V8]

thanks - I included those in my search - try again later

Some severe 'TVR Tax' about - 10x cost for some items

[Belle427]

Why are you replacing said items are they missing or knackered?
Makes sense to try and re use as much stuff as you can really or you will end up spending a lot.

[Griff43V8]

I agree with what u are saying - forgive me, bacon is burning! - Back in a mo with examples

[Griff43V8]

Belle427 said:

Why are you replacing said items are they missing or knackered?
Makes sense to try and re use as much stuff as you can really or you will end up spending a lot.

There lies a story (short!)

Original fault symptom: Fuel pipe from tank / boot to pump damp - Boot carpet in that corner damp and smelling strongly of Evostik!

Really annoyed to find that tank hadnt had inlet & outlet pipes 2" longer so that hose clamps could be released without removing all the boot carpet, fuel tank etc

......However...having removed the tank and wanting to swill it out, we went to remove outlet pipe (with internal filter) and Sender...

Then the horror started!

On closer inspection we could see that the outlet pipe was entirely blocked by what looked like rubber ball-balls! - So, now we Had to remove it. - U wouldnt want to see what faced us on a 24k mile car! - The long steel tube extension to the outlet flange that reaches across to the plastic filter was Deeply encrusted with what looked like rust + micro barnacles, as if from a salvaged sea vessel!!!

The filter stayed put, but was hooked out - it too had decomposed entirely...

So, with trepidation we removed the Sender - Same! Steel float shaft again deeply encrusted. Circuit board showing a little age.

Can someone tell me how installing a sparking contact feeler contact in the perfect trapped fuel vapour + many gallons of Super tank isnt asking to putting a detonator in a full pack of dynamite?? - I genuinely dont understand why this isnt done using magnets or similar to an external mounted rheostat - It doesnt matter if it only draws a microscopic current - once the tracking becomes imperfect it will ark / draw more current (not that a spark is current reliant - we all know a car battery can ark so much u could practically weld with it.. What gives?

The tank has some of this rubberoid rust deposited in sump and around that wont swill out (fused to the alloy!)

I shall throw this open to all readers - what has broken down and caused this encrusting?

Had it been 10 yrs of E10, then I would presume the obvious. However the car has been laid up for 17 yrs, with next to no fuel added in last 6-10 yrs I would say. - Is E5 Super that corrosive??

The irony is, that had the tank been designed with longer metal pipes and we just replaced the hose and ext filter, at best it would not have started, with no clue as to the reason....then all parts were at risk of further contamination - at this stage we simply dont know if the chassis metal pipes, fuel rail, injectors and ancillaries are affected...

Soo, reason for swapping out the Sender is to get a new lease of life from difficult to access components - expecting it to cost c £25 - so far, seems nearer £75 for part of it!

Pressed tin ultra basic mower type fuel cap, £5? - £26 is only find so far (and then not stocked) - Happy to pay £10 - £26, u can get alloy oil tanks!

Re other expensive universal parts include hoses and radiator pipes - Marine grade Stainless Steel pipe of that length with quick mandrel kink if necessary, is nearer £25 not £85 - Happily pay c. £40

EFI fuel pump at £160 etc

At least we dont pay Rolls or Lambo tax I guess! Couple of thousand for a headlight....

What are your thoughts about the barnacle infestation? - Its certainly not just rust, there is broken down rubber Completely fouling things up...

[Adrian@]

This has got to be a fake post...a joke, a yarn...your pristine original, un-serviced, never updated car, has been destroyed by yourself and water condensation rusting petrol cleaned items in your fuel system ...sadly, that is exactly what happens. This was a gearbox after it was stood for 11 years.



And the differential



A@

Edited by Adrian@ on Sunday 12th May 19:48

[Griff43V8]

Belle427 said:

Why are you replacing said items are they missing or knackered?
Makes sense to try and re use as much stuff as you can really or you will end up spending a lot.

There lies a story (short!)

Original fault symptom: Fuel pipe from tank / boot to pump damp - Boot carpet in that corner damp and smelling strongly of Evostik!

Really annoyed to find that tank hadnt had inlet & outlet pipes 2" longer so that hose clamps could be released without removing all the boot carpet, fuel tank etc

......However...having removed the tank and wanting to swill it out, we went to remove outlet pipe (with internal filter) and Sender...

Then the horror started!

On closer inspection we could see that the outlet pipe was entirely blocked by what looked like rubber ball-balls! - So, now we Had to remove it. - U wouldnt want to see what faced us on a 24k mile car! - The long steel tube extension to the outlet flange that reaches across to the plastic filter was Deeply encrusted with what looked like rust + micro barnacles, as if from a salvaged sea vessel!!!

The filter stayed put, but was hooked out - it too had decomposed entirely...

So, with trepidation we removed the Sender - Same! Steel float shaft again deeply encrusted. Circuit board showing a little age.

Can someone tell me how installing a sparking contact feeler contact in the perfect trapped fuel vapour + many gallons of Super tank isnt asking to putting a detonator in a full pack of dynamite?? - I genuinely dont understand why this isnt done using magnets or similar to an external mounted rheostat - It doesnt matter if it only draws a microscopic current - once the tracking becomes imperfect it will ark / draw more current (not that a spark is current reliant - we all know a car battery can ark so much u could practically weld with it.. What gives?

The tank has some of this rubberoid rust deposited in sump and around that wont swill out (fused to the alloy!)

I shall throw this open to all readers - what has broken down and caused this encrusting?

Had it been 10 yrs of E10, then I would presume the obvious. However the car has been laid up for 17 yrs, with next to no fuel added in last 6-10 yrs I would say. - Is E5 Super that corrosive??

The irony is, that had the tank been designed with longer metal pipes and we just replaced the hose and ext filter, at best it would not have started, with no clue as to the reason....then all parts were at risk of further contamination - at this stage we simply dont know if the chassis metal pipes, fuel rail, injectors and ancillaries are affected...

Soo, reason for swapping out the Sender is to get a new lease of life from difficult to access components - expecting it to cost c £25 - so far, seems nearer £75 for part of it!

Pressed tin ultra basic mower type fuel cap, £5? - £26 is only find so far (and then not stocked) - Happy to pay £10 - £26, u can get alloy oil tanks!

Re other expensive universal parts include hoses and radiator pipes - Marine grade Stainless Steel pipe of that length with quick mandrel kink if necessary, is nearer £25 not £85 - Happily pay c. £40

EFI fuel pump at £160 etc

At least we dont pay Rolls or Lambo tax I guess! Couple of thousand for a headlight....

What are your thoughts about the barnacle infestation? - Its certainly not just rust, there is broken down rubber Completely fouling things up...

[Griff43V8]

Adrian@ said:

This has got to be a fake post...a joke, a yarn...your pristine original, un-serviced, never updated car, has been destroyed by yourself and water condensation rusting petrol cleaned items in your fuel system ...sadly, that is exactly what happens. This was a gearbox after it was stood for 11 years.



And the differential



A@

Edited by Adrian@ on Sunday 12th May 19:48

I have phoned u on both numbers in the past, got no pick up or returned calls

[Adrian@]

Griff43V8 said:

I have phoned u on both numbers in the past, got no pick up or returned calls

Phew! I have done well to keep my private number private. Not that I ever answer my home phone, and both my mobiles warn me of spam callers! those numbers get blocked. A@

[Griff43V8]

Adrian@ said:

Phew! I have done well to keep my private number private. Not that I ever answer my home phone, and both my mobiles warn me of spam callers! those numbers get blocked. A@

Why are u such a prat??

I remember u from Meriden...somethings dont change...

[Adrian@]

AND you tried to call on two numbers to tell me that I was a prat.
I am glad you got that off your chest. A@

[Loubaruch]

GRF43V8

You ought to apologise to Adrian and quick as he is one of the most knowledgable TVR owners on these Forums.

If you do not apologise I certainly will not help you in future..

[Griff43V8]

Loubaruch said:

GRF43V8

You ought to apologise to Adrian and quick as he is one of the most knowledgable TVR owners on these Forums.

If you do not apologise I certainly will not help you in future..

My dear chap, have you read how he basically called me an idiot for not looking after my car these past 15 yrs? - Going as far as to say I am some sort of joke - that no fool would treat a car in such a way, not getting it regularly serviced?

I cannot comprehend how any reasonable individual would take such an aggressive dispassionate stance with someone who has already stated that they are a pensioner who has suffered major health problems, leaving him unable to care for his much loved car

I shouldnt need to, however I can elaborate further if you feel I need to defend my inability to perform to 'expected standards....

[Griff43V8]

Adrian@ said:

AND you tried to call on two numbers to tell me that I was a prat.
I am glad you got that off your chest. A@

NO I DID NOT - I PHONED LAST WEEK FOR PARTS!!!!!

What is with the hostile attitude Adrian?

[Griff43V8]

FOR THOSE THAT CARE - I have been unable to look after my much loved Griff over the last 1.5 decades due to severely debilitating health, incl:

Cardiac surgery
Cancer surgery
195/110 hypertension
Atrial rhythmic disorder
Multiple severe breakdowns
Chronic depression
Hyper anxiety
Diabetes

Supporting terminally ill family, having to just walk away from over 20 yrs hard labour setting up a successful national company - losing everything - Within a short period, I was looking down the back of the sofa for change and thrown out of my leased farmhouse after decades.....

Regrettably all this has left me considerably debilitated and believe me, much as I love my last possession of decades of 60 hr weeks, I was financially, physically, mentally and emotionally unable to conform to above mentioned 'standards' - suffering nearly 20 yrs

Perhaps gentleman you would give me the courtesy of reviewing recent posts and see if Adrians 'prowess' is something that should be used to brow beat those less fortunate / able

I am happy to bury the hatchet, if Adrian would concede that humiliating me and insulting me - someone clearly politely seeking help over dozens of respectful posts was a mistake - Particularly as, like I said, I phoned him (before this storm in a tea cup) for help with parts!!

Some kindness please

[Adrian@]

I read your last post, life has given you challenges.

Not aggressive..honest, you are out of your depth, with the misconception of what you have...a pristine low mileage car that has stood for years is now a basket case car. Not one thing you have posted about should surprise you, as you left it for 17 years.
You really need to accept your lot, being kind and gentle is not a good thing.
In another thread you complained about oil pressure (it being a issue with a Buick designed engine from your childhood, that should of been better designed for YOU today).
You have all the surfaces that can rust in wheel bearings/brakes /cooling/fans/heater fans/wiper motors/tyres and all the electrics.

I have been to Meriden 5 or 6 times this century! MOST of them in the last year.

I have never been known for selling Griffith parts ever and no one here would point you off to me for them (apart from help with wiper motors).

BTW...the last missed call on my home phone was on the 02/5 and my mobile phone the 13/4 (unless you are blocking your number, then they are never answered).

BTW, Thanks Paul.

I will get on. A@

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 13th May 20:58