How does my dog know where she's dropped her ball?

How does my dog know where she's dropped her ball?

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jtremlett

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1,382 posts

223 months

Saturday 11th May
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My dog loves playing and especially with a (tennis-sized) ball. But she doesn't bring the ball back, she runs off with it and drops it somewhere. Now we might be in a big grassy field and she'll charge off and somewhere enroute will drop the ball. By the time she stops running about she might be a considerable distance from where she dropped it. However, with encouragement/nagging from me, she can get back to within a couple of feet of where she dropped it. How? One blade of grass looks much like another to me at least. Smell seems unlikely both because the wind direction seems irrelevant but also when she gets close she is clearly searching visually. Do dogs have some kind of in-built GPS? An Internet search seems to either return results about a different of ball dropping or about teaching your dog to bring the ball back.

Dazdot

144 posts

34 months

Saturday 11th May
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Smell. I take my dog to scent classes with a search and rescue dog handler. The things my dog can find, which you would think impossible, is amazing. My favourite search was for a ten pound note in a plastic tube, in a hall where there had been 4 dog classes previously, so numerous smells everywhere.

jtremlett

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1,382 posts

223 months

Sunday 12th May
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Thank you. I wonder why her nose doesn't take her right up to it? She will get close then start looking around and quite often, with my height advantage, I will actually spot it whilst she is still looking close by. Having said which, she isn't trained at all.

TGCOTF-dewey

5,286 posts

56 months

Sunday 12th May
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To give you an idea of how amazing a dog's nose is. I was chatting to a SARDA dog handler on a missing persons search many years ago as at time I was considering training my black lab as one.

We got onto the topic of just how good they are at finding stuff. The handler explained that one had found a sunken fishing boat up in Scotland after a conventional sonar scan had failed to.

The team had the dog in the bow of the RIB and carried out a back and forth search pattern across the area. It was found in 10s of meters of water.

The dog had picked up on the decomposition gasses bubbling to the surface from the crew's bodies.

Incredible animals.

Piersman2

6,604 posts

200 months

Sunday 12th May
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Our doggo does the same, he'll regularly sniff out a 'park' ball that another dog has previously lost, carry it around proudly and will drop it when he finds something that needs sniffiing. He'll get distracted and we'll have moved on ,maybe 100+yards, before he remembers he's not got the ball anymore. He'll then turn around and trot back to rediscover the ball with amazing accuracy and can find it again after a quick sniff. Does it all the time.

We assume he's got "the scent" for old balls and toys as he can locate other dogs old discarded balls in hedges, up trees and in the middle of bramble patches which means him and me working our way far enough in for him to them pick up, me scratched to feck, him happy as Larry. smile

cliffords

1,399 posts

24 months

Sunday 12th May
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We have two spaniels. One is 12 years old and very sight compromised.
She will walk into doors at a new place really can't see well in any low light . She loves a game with a tennis ball in our garden. She can always find her ball even in flower beds and bushes , it nearly all smell . Older and most smelly ball is best .

Dazdot

144 posts

34 months

Sunday 12th May
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They don't always go straight to the item as, especially outside, the scent can move around. And they certainly don't need to be trained to use their noses, all training does is hones the skill and trains them on how to search and how to react when they make a find.

Beati Dogu

8,918 posts

140 months

Sunday 12th May
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Yes you see them go into a search pattern when they get close. Their noses must be like another dimension to them. Something like 100-300x better than ours.

Stan the Bat

8,964 posts

213 months

Monday 13th May
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Could be handy on a golf course.

bigmowley

1,910 posts

177 months

Monday 13th May
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For us it’s hedgehogs. My dogs all Corgis will potter off outside at bedtime for a wee and a snuffle about. Same nearly every night, however if they go outside and then all run off at about 300 miles an hour into one of our fields then I know it’s time to get my shoes on to rescue a hedgehog. It’s bloody amazing that they do this purely on smell, the damm thing can be a good few hundred meters away and they can smell it instantly. They run straight to it in the dark and use it like a very prickly football laugh.
Never any harm done, I think the prickles work very effectively on Corgi noses. Not idea why they do this but it’s a PITA.

Roofless Toothless

5,729 posts

133 months

Tuesday 14th May
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If a dog’s sense of smell is so marvellous, why do they find it necessary to stick their noses right up the backside of other dogs? No to one side, not to the other, but right up the middle?

Sheets Tabuer

19,082 posts

216 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Can't explain how good it is but I was amazed the other day how cut off from the world they are when they can't smell. I was cutting a pork joint and giving the dog some scraps, threw a chunk of pork which bounced off her bowl and landed in her water. She stopped dead bemused at the disappearance of this chunk of pork, she sniffed around the bowl but got nothing so started barking and squatting on her front two legs at this witchcraft. Eventually I walked over and gave her the pork.

Either that or she's a dumb fk.

Silvanus

5,339 posts

24 months

Tuesday 14th May
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A dog's sense of smell is amazing. We are currently having some trained to smell the frass of a specific species of tiny bark beetle so it can pinpoint trees and logs that contain them.

FarmyardPants

4,113 posts

219 months

Wednesday 15th May
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This is quite entertaining:


kerplunk

7,080 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th May
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I used to play a game with my parent's jack russell on their shingle driveway. I'd pick up a pebble and let her smell it in my hand and then holding her head between my legs so that she couldn't see I'd throw the pebble onto the shingle driveway behind her and then release her. She would track it down and find it in seconds

SpudLink

5,948 posts

193 months

Wednesday 15th May
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When charging around in the park, the grass might look the same to us, but the dog will have picked up loads of scent landmarks. They will remember running past the pee of dog X, the poo of a specific fox, then the stale poo of dog Y that was picked up 2 days ago but enough remains to leave a distinct smell.
I think it's literally impossible for us to imagine how a dog's nose perceives the world.


Beati Dogu

8,918 posts

140 months

Wednesday 15th May
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A bear's sense of smell is even more powerful, About 7x more than a bloodhound's

So about 2,100x better than ours.

No wonder they don't like bear mace.

Stan the Bat

8,964 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Silvanus said:
A dog's sense of smell is amazing. We are currently having some trained to smell the frass of a specific species of tiny bark beetle so it can pinpoint trees and logs that contain them.
New word day..... frass.

Thanks. smile