RE: MG ZS 180 | Spotted

RE: MG ZS 180 | Spotted

Monday 20th May

MG ZS 180 | Spotted

Why the forgotten MG Z car now looks a classic car bargain


Hopefully it hasn’t escaped your attention that the fast MG is a thing again. No doubt the debate around the merits of cars like the Cyberster and the 435hp 4 XPower will continue for a long while yet, but it’s hard to dispute that the car world is more interesting with another sports car and loopy hot hatch in it. It would be a nice hook to say that the return of the performance MG has encouraged the yearning for an old one, but, in truth, not many days go past without thinking of the MG Z cars. Hopefully one or two of you are the same. 

They’re nothing if not hard to find in 2024, however. The 25-based ZR was Britain’s best-selling hot hatch for a time, but with so many abused by scallywags over the years they’re now scarce; diesel-powered ZTs were worked into the ground, and the V8 arrived too late for a meaningful number to be made. Add to that the fact that even the youngest cars are now nearly 20 years old and it’s perhaps less of a surprise to find so few. 

Then there’s the ZS, the MG-ified Rover that wasn’t all that popular in its day. Pity. It had the V6 in its favour, plus a decent chassis and even the glamour of being associated with the Team Atomic Kitten touring car outfit (yes, really), but the ZS just looked a bit dowdy. Even in yellow, even with the spoiler. And image matters for a hot hatch. At a time of rivals like the first UK Honda Civic Type R and smart, contemporary Ford Focus ST170, the ZS just wasn’t cool. And who wants an uncool hot hatch? 

So at the time, nobody especially cared about the ZS, a situation not helped by their prompt depreciation. It’s not even that the big scrappage scheme was to blame; a peak of 6,900 cars on the road according to HowManyLeft was still 6,300 in 2009. It was still 5,000 in 2012, but that was also the time that there were good V6-powered cars for £750. It’s easy to imagine one big bill writing off many cars like that, because they just weren’t worth it, and at the last count there were fewer than 600 ZSes on the road. Sob. 

The good news is that those now left tend to be pretty good, as the stragglers have fallen by the wayside. Purists tend to prefer the pre-facelift design, though the saloon always seemed to suit the look better than the hatch. This one is showing fewer than 60,000 miles and has been driven by just two owners in 20 years; there’s a recent cambelt change in its history, too. Despite never being renowned as the sturdiest car in the world, this ZS seems to have stood the test of time well. 

The MOT is looming, and the dreaded corrosion has been mentioned in previous tests, which might be handy when it comes to doing a deal. The asking price is £5,995, or borderline extraordinary when the ZS was a SOTW regular. But with a crystal ball in the mid-2010s there were plenty of cars we’d all have snapped up. Still today it’s significantly less money than a comparable Civic, and available for less even than the Golf GTI that nobody likes. It might need a bit of saving, but the ZS has remained unloved for too long - who’s going to be its hero?


SPECIFICATION | MG ZS 180

Engine: 2,497cc, V6
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 180@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 177@4,000rpm
MPG: 33.2
CO2: 227g/km
Year registered: 2004
Recorded mileage: 58,000
Price new: £16,790 (2001)
Yours for: £5,995

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yme402

Original Poster:

405 posts

104 months

Monday 20th May
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Looks ok, but due to MG Rovers “Project Drive” the last ones produced like this were so heavily stripped back, it will be pretty grim.

s m

23,306 posts

205 months

Monday 20th May
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Love these

Handle really well

Looked at a nice one a decade back but went for something equally un-PH at the time

86wasagoodyear

428 posts

98 months

Monday 20th May
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Isn't that basically a Rover 400 in disguise ? Looks very familiar - I had a 420 for a bit as a company pool car, would've been around 1999-2000. Surprisingly comfy as I remember it.

BrassMan

1,490 posts

191 months

Monday 20th May
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86wasagoodyear said:
Isn't that basically a Rover 400 in disguise ? Looks very familiar - I had a 420 for a bit as a company pool car, would've been around 1999-2000. Surprisingly comfy as I remember it.
The floorpan was also the Civic, Concerto and Integra. Very good to drive but the boot is eaten into by the suspension and the paint on the last ones is censored terrible.

fantheman80

1,481 posts

51 months

Monday 20th May
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I thought back then and today these are a good looking saloon, big wing, but somehow balances out. Best in black for me

Someone remind me where those heater controls ended up? Some supercar iirc

Andy83n

392 posts

64 months

Monday 20th May
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fantheman80 said:
I thought back then and today these are a good looking saloon, big wing, but somehow balances out. Best in black for me

Someone remind me where those heater controls ended up? Some supercar iirc
Zonda

king arthur

6,619 posts

263 months

Monday 20th May
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86wasagoodyear said:
Isn't that basically a Rover 400 in disguise ? Looks very familiar - I had a 420 for a bit as a company pool car, would've been around 1999-2000. Surprisingly comfy as I remember it.
It more or less is but MG Rover swapped something round on the front suspension which gave it better handling. I think it was a development of a prototype Rover 425 or something.

MrGeoff

660 posts

174 months

Monday 20th May
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Andy83n said:
fantheman80 said:
I thought back then and today these are a good looking saloon, big wing, but somehow balances out. Best in black for me

Someone remind me where those heater controls ended up? Some supercar iirc
Zonda
And the Murcielago as well?

pSyCoSiS

3,616 posts

207 months

Monday 20th May
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These couldn't be given away back in the day. I'd take a punt on one, but for the original Shed budget!

carinaman

21,374 posts

174 months

Monday 20th May
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Not forgotten.

There was one on the Car and Classic free classifieds site a few years near Bristol that had had an LSD fitted. I think it was up for <£4k. I suppose it could be inflation.


Demonix

496 posts

214 months

Monday 20th May
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Hmm borderline luke warm saloon for the festival of the unexceptional?

itcaptainslow

3,717 posts

138 months

Monday 20th May
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king arthur said:
86wasagoodyear said:
Isn't that basically a Rover 400 in disguise ? Looks very familiar - I had a 420 for a bit as a company pool car, would've been around 1999-2000. Surprisingly comfy as I remember it.
It more or less is but MG Rover swapped something round on the front suspension which gave it better handling. I think it was a development of a prototype Rover 425 or something.
The front upper wishbones, from side to side.

Jon_S_Rally

3,452 posts

90 months

Monday 20th May
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Like that. I always thought the facelift was better looking, and definitely best in saloon form. "Decent" handling seems a bit harsh, as I recall these were widely regarded as the best of all the Rover/MG crossovers of that era in terms of handling. Civic underpinnings help too no doubt.

It's more than I'd want to spend on one, but I definitely see the appeal.

fantheman80

1,481 posts

51 months

Monday 20th May
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Demonix said:
Hmm borderline luke warm saloon for the festival of the unexceptional?
No chance, far too sporty looking

paulyv

1,027 posts

125 months

Monday 20th May
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Enjoyed my time in a mk1 model, it being the first 'fast' car I had owned. Cost me £1200 via Ebay about 13 years ago having previously been owned by a 'Captain so-and-so' from the RAF who had seemingly maintained it on his behalf. I had no idea if that was a good or bad thing. It was relatively fast, stayed on the road as you'd want and made a terrific sound. There was always some consumable or other breaking before one would expect but I forgave it as it put a smile on my face. A V6 for a track day below £1500 would be a very good purchase but I get the impression you'd be spending quite a bit of time at the end of the day fixing things that have come loose whilst ragging it.

Huge boot.

The reviewers had fun back in the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUSa0UhbccU

Oldwolf

952 posts

195 months

Monday 20th May
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I had a 54 plate one in black which I loved.
Bought it pre registered with delivery mileage for less than 50% of list price, ran it for 3 years (during which time MG went bust) and wrote it off hitting a deer. Insurers offered me £1000 less than I'd bought it for so I gratefully acceptedsmile
It handled well and I have considered getting another but they do say you should never revisit so I probably never will now.

Misanthroper

119 posts

34 months

Monday 20th May
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I can’t believe these are appreciating, looks very overpriced to me and there’s a lot more to consider at that price that isn’t a rover in a skirt with corrosion issues looming, who is going to pay that much for it?? Maybe 2 - 3k max.

Jon_S_Rally

3,452 posts

90 months

Monday 20th May
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Misanthroper said:
I can’t believe these are appreciating, looks very overpriced to me and there’s a lot more to consider at that price that isn’t a rover in a skirt with corrosion issues looming, who is going to pay that much for it?? Maybe 2 - 3k max.
Like anything else, it will go too enthusiast for that particular car/brand. What else you can buy for the same money isn't really relevant for those type of buyers.

Quhet

2,436 posts

148 months

Monday 20th May
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The facelift(s) on these wasn't that successful IMO and the original early 2000s cars in lairy paint colours looked much better. Being a south Birmingham lad, I've always had a soft spot for these MGs and if money/space/ridicule was no object, I'd quite like (in a sad sort of way) to get the set of ZR/ZS and ZTs to hoon about in.

TristPerrin

136 posts

180 months

Monday 20th May
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Always liked these, especially in the blue they offered(Tahiti Blue?). My old Boss during my apprenticeship bought one when MG/Rover went under for not a lot more money than this!
The MoT history suggests this particular one is probably getting quite crusty though...