RE: 2024 BMW M4 CS | PH Review

RE: 2024 BMW M4 CS | PH Review

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pacdes

508 posts

163 months

Saturday 18th May
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Be grateful stuff like this is still being made, nobody else is doing it as good.
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Erm... Alfa. (are you 12?)

Mysstree

466 posts

48 months

Saturday 18th May
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If i was thinking of buying one of these and i turned up at a dealer and the actual car in this feature was the demonstrator, just the colour alone would already have me thinking no let alone the styling.
Once i sat inside i would want to get out, that interior is awful.
Even if this car could make me a powerfully built company director driving god … its a Munter to look at, inside and out.

sturge7878

80 posts

2 months

Saturday 18th May
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pacdes said:
Motormouth88 said:
Imagine dropping over 100k on this and walking out the next morning to see it sitting on your driveway in all its hideous glory
(hideous glory) - funny... one consolation being that you'd be able to sleep at night knowing it was still there every morning.

Edited by pacdes on Saturday 18th May 12:50
laugh

eddharris

465 posts

195 months

Saturday 18th May
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The new M3 and M4 threads do bring out the wittiest posters wink

E90_M3Ross

35,164 posts

214 months

Saturday 18th May
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eddharris said:
The new M3 and M4 threads do bring out the wittiest posters wink
You're so modest.

HighwayStar

4,358 posts

146 months

Saturday 18th May
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raspy said:
£117,100 and it is listed as 0-60 in 3.4 seconds?

Who is going to buy this when you get a Model 3 Performance for £60k that does 0-60 in 2.9 seconds?
Must be on a wind up… anyone who wants a Ferrari/Lamborghini/Mclaren etc is not buying a M3P because they’d get destroyed at the lights. I certainly have zero, ZERO urge to bin off my GT4… for one.
The nearest traffic lights are 4 miles away from where I live. I get the whole EV efficiency thing and would certainly consider one as a daily, white goods transport to get me to the gym, catch up with friends etc. but for a road trip up north taking in some nice driving roads… over to Wales, good food more great roads, an EV would not cut it for the sheer pleasure and enjoyment on such a trip FOR ME! Efficiency and least cost would not be considered at all.

raspy

1,556 posts

96 months

Saturday 18th May
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Nomme de Plum said:
The traffic light thing is and always was rather pointless. The form of motive power in this regard is irrelevant.

The very low CoG and polar moment does allow and EV to handle and corner far better than the weight would seem imply. That takes a bit of getting used to. It is subtedly different when compared to say my old modified S1 Exige where weight transfer front to rear and vice versa had a major impact on handling and cornering.

I wonder what the weight distribution is for this M4?
Bizarrely, the specification sheet for the new M4 CS shows plenty of stats, but nothing about weight distribution.

Turning circle is nice and large at 12.6m, like a bus!


samjlevy

269 posts

78 months

Saturday 18th May
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raspy said:
£117,100 and it is listed as 0-60 in 3.4 seconds?

Who is going to buy this when you get a Model 3 Performance for £60k that does 0-60 in 2.9 seconds?
If we are doing pointless stats, a Model 3 Performance does 0 - 200kph in 13.6 seconds and a normal M4 does it in 11.3 seconds, no doubt the CS would be quicker. Also quite different cars, I’m not sure how well a model 3 would be on a track day?

GT9

6,879 posts

174 months

Saturday 18th May
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E90_M3Ross said:
From what I gather the DCT boxes seem a little less reliable in cars with turbos. They are pretty much bullet proof in the E9x M3s.
The input torque to the gearbox being the defining variable.
Turbo + slushbox is all part of a pre-ordained pathway to the ultimate goal of no cylinders, no turbos and no gearbox. smile

raspy

1,556 posts

96 months

Saturday 18th May
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samjlevy said:
If we are doing pointless stats, a Model 3 Performance does 0 - 200kph in 13.6 seconds and a normal M4 does it in 11.3 seconds, no doubt the CS would be quicker. Also quite different cars, I’m not sure how well a model 3 would be on a track day?
Ah on a track? Yes, the M4 CS would be much quicker (especially with the vroom vroom noises) and according to everything I've read about electric cars, the model 3 would probably run out of charge after a few corners, assuming it didn't spin round on the first corner like a wobbly jelly.

cerb4.5lee

31,011 posts

182 months

Saturday 18th May
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raspy said:
samjlevy said:
If we are doing pointless stats, a Model 3 Performance does 0 - 200kph in 13.6 seconds and a normal M4 does it in 11.3 seconds, no doubt the CS would be quicker. Also quite different cars, I’m not sure how well a model 3 would be on a track day?
Ah on a track? Yes, the M4 CS would be much quicker (especially with the vroom vroom noises) and according to everything I've read about electric cars, the model 3 would probably run out of charge after a few corners, assuming it didn't spin round on the first corner like a wobbly jelly.
I'd imagine driving a Tesla around a track would be a bit like having a bath with your clothes on. You could do it, but you wouldn't really want to though.

E90_M3Ross

35,164 posts

214 months

Saturday 18th May
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GT9 said:
E90_M3Ross said:
From what I gather the DCT boxes seem a little less reliable in cars with turbos. They are pretty much bullet proof in the E9x M3s.
The input torque to the gearbox being the defining variable.
Turbo + slushbox is all part of a pre-ordained pathway to the ultimate goal of no cylinders, no turbos and no gearbox. smile
Ultimate goal?

rottenegg

500 posts

65 months

Saturday 18th May
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I don't mind it actually. Would look better in Isle of Man green with anthracite wheels though.

I don't really get the big thigh separator lumps in the seats though. Not something you want to catch your gonads on.

eddharris

465 posts

195 months

Saturday 18th May
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rottenegg said:
I don't mind it actually. Would look better in Isle of Man green with anthracite wheels though.

I don't really get the big thigh separator lumps in the seats though. Not something you want to catch your gonads on.
Yes, those seats look fantastic but can get painful if you don’t drop into them correctly or fancy a quick correction mid drive. Many of the reviewers have said the same.

Mouse Rat

1,828 posts

94 months

Saturday 18th May
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Mmm I'm not sure these M cars have the allure these days.

Front end styling
Alpina
Alfa QV

GT9

6,879 posts

174 months

Saturday 18th May
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E90_M3Ross said:
GT9 said:
E90_M3Ross said:
From what I gather the DCT boxes seem a little less reliable in cars with turbos. They are pretty much bullet proof in the E9x M3s.
The input torque to the gearbox being the defining variable.
Turbo + slushbox is all part of a pre-ordained pathway to the ultimate goal of no cylinders, no turbos and no gearbox. smile
Ultimate goal?
It's a somewhat flippant comment.

However, as an exercise, let's estimate the size and value of these lists for all cars ever made for the last 150 years:

1. Interesting normally-aspirated or supercharged petrol cars with either manual or semi-automatic transmission
2. Interesting normally-aspirated petrol cars with automatic transmission
3. Interesting forced-induction petrol cars with automatic transmission
4. Other interesting cars (turbo+manual, hybrid, wankel, etc)

And, if you can save just one of those lists, which one are you going to go for?

I believe a situation could be envisaged where list 1 can be preserved for the long term, and maybe, just maybe, some new cars added to it after 2035, to keep enthusiasts happy.

But the price is eventually replacing everything else with cars that don't burn stuff...

rottenegg

500 posts

65 months

Saturday 18th May
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eddharris said:
rottenegg said:
I don't mind it actually. Would look better in Isle of Man green with anthracite wheels though.

I don't really get the big thigh separator lumps in the seats though. Not something you want to catch your gonads on.
Yes, those seats look fantastic but can get painful if you don’t drop into them correctly or fancy a quick correction mid drive. Many of the reviewers have said the same.
I'll have to test drive one and see if they are as intrusive as they look! BMWs have always had great seats and spot on driving positions, so I suppose this yet another new age BMW thing we have to get used to!


Magikarp

808 posts

50 months

Saturday 18th May
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I like it, and in that colour. I must be either defective, or degenerate.

rottenegg

500 posts

65 months

Saturday 18th May
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Magikarp said:
I like it, and in that colour. I must be either defective, or degenerate.
No I would say you're not living in the past and open to design language changes. I'm still not quite there yet with the new corporate nose, but I don't think it's going anywhere soon, and it doesn't look too offensive on M models to be fair.

Mysstree

466 posts

48 months

Saturday 18th May
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Magikarp said:
I like it, and in that colour. I must be either defective, or degenerate.
I had heard a rumour Stevie Wonder was a forum member.