Megan and Harry documentary

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Muzzer79

10,186 posts

189 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Golfgtimk28v said:
KR158 said:
This.
Didn't princess Diana say similar things? Do you hate her as well?
This wasn't directed at me, but I'll answer

Yes she probably did and she was an attention-seeking narcissist too.....

"Hate" is a rarely used term for me, especially for a celebrity that I don't know personally, but I simply cannot understand all the fawning and idolising of Princess bloody Diana

eccles

13,747 posts

224 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Muzzer79 said:
This wasn't directed at me, but I'll answer

Yes she probably did and she was an attention-seeking narcissist too.....

"Hate" is a rarely used term for me, especially for a celebrity that I don't know personally, but I simply cannot understand all the fawning and idolising of Princess bloody Diana
Makes me laugh as well. The summer before she died people were on about her playboy lifestyle, she was getting slagged off by politicians and the press for interfering in politics, then when she dies, she's queen of hearts and saint Diana!
Her treatment by the paparazzi was terrible and it was a watershed for the royal family and the paparazzi, but she used the press when she needed a story about something she was doing.

smn159

12,828 posts

219 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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eccles said:
Her treatment by the paparazzi was terrible and it was a watershed for the royal family and the paparazzi, but she used the press when she needed a story about something she was doing.
So if someone wants some publicity for their charity work they should also accept helicopters above their house, reporters going through their bins, telefoto lenses aimed at their gardens and when they go on holiday and all the rest?

Bizarre.

Motoring12345

620 posts

52 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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I'm not a fan of Megan or Harry but Jesus that Clarkson comment is vile.


He's the classic "You either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain"

Disgusting Tory .

eccles

13,747 posts

224 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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smn159 said:
eccles said:
Her treatment by the paparazzi was terrible and it was a watershed for the royal family and the paparazzi, but she used the press when she needed a story about something she was doing.
So if someone wants some publicity for their charity work they should also accept helicopters above their house, reporters going through their bins, telefoto lenses aimed at their gardens and when they go on holiday and all the rest?

Bizarre.
She was the most famous person on the planet. She tips them off about things beneficial to herself, she used them . They used her. It's been widely agreed that their behaviour went too far, and many Paparazzi also agreed. Things have changed since.

Muzzer79

10,186 posts

189 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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smn159 said:
eccles said:
Her treatment by the paparazzi was terrible and it was a watershed for the royal family and the paparazzi, but she used the press when she needed a story about something she was doing.
So if someone wants some publicity for their charity work they should also accept helicopters above their house, reporters going through their bins, telefoto lenses aimed at their gardens and when they go on holiday and all the rest?

Bizarre.
You think her primary aim was to get publicity for her charity work?

Bless......

smn159

12,828 posts

219 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Muzzer79 said:
smn159 said:
eccles said:
Her treatment by the paparazzi was terrible and it was a watershed for the royal family and the paparazzi, but she used the press when she needed a story about something she was doing.
So if someone wants some publicity for their charity work they should also accept helicopters above their house, reporters going through their bins, telefoto lenses aimed at their gardens and when they go on holiday and all the rest?

Bizarre.
You think her primary aim was to get publicity for her charity work?

Bless......
I'd assumed that the point was clear, but I guess that some do find comprehension a challenge

TopTrump

3,235 posts

176 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Motoring12345 said:
I'm not a fan of Megan or Harry but Jesus that Clarkson comment is vile.


He's the classic "You either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain"

Disgusting Tory ****.
Why is he not allowed to share his opinion? You are very wound up, have a lie down dear.

QJumper

2,709 posts

28 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Muzzer79 said:
This wasn't directed at me, but I'll answer

Yes she probably did and she was an attention-seeking narcissist too.....

"Hate" is a rarely used term for me, especially for a celebrity that I don't know personally, but I simply cannot understand all the fawning and idolising of Princess bloody Diana
I don't think that Diana, or Megan, for that matter were/are inherently bad people.

However, I have known some people with personality disorders, and their ability to manipulate others is incredible. To be clear, it's almost certainly not deliberate on their part, and just that their paranoia and distrust of others causes them to constantly feel and act like a victim. Another common trait is to try and isolate any partner from friends and family, either by sowing the seeds of mistrust about them, or alienating them. To those who aren't too close to them, they can come across as sweet and charming, who are just being unfairly picked on, which naturally triggers an instinct (particlarly in men) to protect and defend them. To those closest to them, they require constant loyalty, attention and validation and, if ever that falls short, they're a fking nightmare. Which goes a long way to explaining why such people are adored by some and vilified by others.

Now, I'm not saying either have a personality disorder, but some claim that Diana was diagnosed with one, and Megan appears to come from the kind of dysfunctional background from which they can occur. Her relationship with Harry has certainly been about seperating and isolating him from his family, painting herself as the victim, and also appears to show some signs of codependency.

Once again, I don't think that makes her a bad person, and deserving of attacks by the press or others. As a previous poster said, both her and Harry probably need help rather than hate, but in constantly being the focus of attention, either deliberately or unwillingly, they're likely to endure more of the latter than the former.

Muzzer79

10,186 posts

189 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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smn159 said:
Muzzer79 said:
smn159 said:
eccles said:
Her treatment by the paparazzi was terrible and it was a watershed for the royal family and the paparazzi, but she used the press when she needed a story about something she was doing.
So if someone wants some publicity for their charity work they should also accept helicopters above their house, reporters going through their bins, telefoto lenses aimed at their gardens and when they go on holiday and all the rest?

Bizarre.
You think her primary aim was to get publicity for her charity work?

Bless......
I'd assumed that the point was clear, but I guess that some do find comprehension a challenge
Like some find coherency a challenge?

PositronicRay

27,118 posts

185 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Motoring12345 said:
I'm not a fan of Megan or Harry but Jesus that Clarkson comment is vile.


He's the classic "You either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain"

Disgusting Tory .
The daft thing is he's given her more oxygen. If he really doesn't like her why?

NomduJour

19,176 posts

261 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Motoring12345 said:
Disgusting Tory .
Are Labour voters obliged to like her?

DBSV8

5,958 posts

240 months

Monday 19th December 2022
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Motoring12345 said:
I'm not a fan of Megan or Harry but Jesus that Clarkson comment is vile.


He's the classic "You either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain"

Disgusting Tory .
I take it you not a Mexican then ...........and you realise most things he posts are for effect

scratchchin

Jon556

431 posts

28 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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smn159 said:
Sir Bagalot said:
Meg realised she would never be on a par with Kate.
What does that even mean?
Kate is better at golf than Meg.

Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

41 months

Tuesday 20th December 2022
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NomduJour said:
Motoring12345 said:
Disgusting Tory .
Are Labour voters obliged to like her?
Is it verboten to hate someone, but perfectly fine to call someone a 'tory '?

This all seems like an 'ok when we do it' scenario. I'd suggest if this was Trump, Corbyn, Piers, etc, no-one would bat an eyelid.



Golfgtimk28v

Original Poster:

2,797 posts

21 months

Friday 17th February 2023
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South park have done a good review of the situation.

Slaav

4,271 posts

212 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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Golfgtimk28v said:
South park have done a good review of the situation.
I came here looking for comments on ‘The Worldwide Privacy Tour’?

Assumed there would be more or is there a dedicated thread?

It was very near the knuckle but hard not to laugh, between cringing… very clever and good!

Golfgtimk28v

Original Poster:

2,797 posts

21 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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I think there is another thread. I loved the bit where he says we don't want to be a brand, do we, looking at her, she doesn't respond. Brilliant really I don't think you could get away with this comedy in the UK.

DSLiverpool

14,807 posts

204 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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This weeks South Park is worth a watch - it’s brutal (but deserved)

Slaav

4,271 posts

212 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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Golfgtimk28v said:
I think there is another thread. I loved the bit where he says we don't want to be a brand, do we, looking at her, she doesn't respond. Brilliant really I don't think you could get away with this comedy in the UK.
Thanks will hunt for it rather than drag this one off topic…..