Cryptosporidium outbreak in Devon
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Given crypto infection generally comes from sewage contaminated water the mealymouthed response from the water co is pretty s
t, but perhaps par for the course for privatised water; fk the customers, profit is all.
t, but perhaps par for the course for privatised water; fk the customers, profit is all.Yep, bit pissed off with this as I'm in an affected area. Lots of pans of boiling water on the go.
Have to be carefull as my immune systems is a bit fked up and getting ill isnt a good idea.
Add in the fact I'm a chef in high risk areas and I would be off work for a few weeks as if i was ill.
Local school closed as well. Friends who live opposite the reservoir have said there have been more SWW vans around for a few weeks so something was happening.
Highest water bills in the country or something?
Have to be carefull as my immune systems is a bit f
ked up and getting ill isnt a good idea.Add in the fact I'm a chef in high risk areas and I would be off work for a few weeks as if i was ill.
Local school closed as well. Friends who live opposite the reservoir have said there have been more SWW vans around for a few weeks so something was happening.
Highest water bills in the country or something?
hidetheelephants said:
Given crypto infection generally comes from sewage contaminated water the mealymouthed response from the water co is pretty st, but perhaps par for the course for privatised water; fk the customers, profit is all.
Outbreaks happened pre and post privatisation, it's often down to a single treatment works IIRC.t, but perhaps par for the course for privatised water; fk the customers, profit is all.Also it was only identified in 1976, meaning there is only 13 years of data (and probably lower quality data given the immaturity of testing) versus 35 years of data post privatisation)
I'm not defending water privatisation as I think it was wrong, but it is unlikely to be a singular cause.
The infections happen regularly around the world in state owned and private water systems. What is better these days is real time or near real time detection (versus historical batch/spot testing) which means warnings can be issued more quickly.
vaud said:
hidetheelephants said:
Given crypto infection generally comes from sewage contaminated water the mealymouthed response from the water co is pretty st, but perhaps par for the course for privatised water; fk the customers, profit is all.
Outbreaks happened pre and post privatisation, it's often down to a single treatment works IIRC.t, but perhaps par for the course for privatised water; fk the customers, profit is all.Also it was only identified in 1976, meaning there is only 13 years of data (and probably lower quality data given the immaturity of testing) versus 35 years of data post privatisation)
I'm not defending water privatisation as I think it was wrong, but it is unlikely to be a singular cause.
The infections happen regularly around the world in state owned and private water systems. What is better these days is real time or near real time detection (versus historical batch/spot testing) which means warnings can be issued more quickly.
The runs of Brixham.
From last night's news, the locals are pissed off not least because after people started falling ill, SWW told them nothing to see here & to carry on as normal, so they did. Then they all came down with the two bob bits whereupon they admitted there was a problem & to boil the water.
Wider context, water privatisation is an acute failure, the narrative arc across the board is foreign ownership, debt loading, cranked up shareholder divdends, chronic underinvestment & a feeble regulatory framework allowing the water co's to mark their own homework whcih is handy if you want to pull the plug on doing your actual job & replace it with just dumping raw sewage all over the place.
From last night's news, the locals are pissed off not least because after people started falling ill, SWW told them nothing to see here & to carry on as normal, so they did. Then they all came down with the two bob bits whereupon they admitted there was a problem & to boil the water.
Wider context, water privatisation is an acute failure, the narrative arc across the board is foreign ownership, debt loading, cranked up shareholder divdends, chronic underinvestment & a feeble regulatory framework allowing the water co's to mark their own homework whcih is handy if you want to pull the plug on doing your actual job & replace it with just dumping raw sewage all over the place.
Edited by President Merkin on Thursday 16th May 10:10
I live a few miles away but not in the affected area.
Local FB groups are demanding lockdowns and curfew etc as apparently this can spread person to person. I'm not sure if it's meant to be tongue in cheek but the level of hysteria here is off the charts.
It seems the water company have found the source of the bug, a leaky air valve at the res.
Local FB groups are demanding lockdowns and curfew etc as apparently this can spread person to person. I'm not sure if it's meant to be tongue in cheek but the level of hysteria here is off the charts.
It seems the water company have found the source of the bug, a leaky air valve at the res.
thatsprettyshady said:
I live a few miles away but not in the affected area.
Local FB groups are demanding lockdowns and curfew etc as apparently this can spread person to person. I'm not sure if it's meant to be tongue in cheek but the level of hysteria here is off the charts.
It seems the water company have found the source of the bug, a leaky air valve at the res.
Muppets filling trolleys with water in Lidl while wearing masks.Local FB groups are demanding lockdowns and curfew etc as apparently this can spread person to person. I'm not sure if it's meant to be tongue in cheek but the level of hysteria here is off the charts.
It seems the water company have found the source of the bug, a leaky air valve at the res.
21TonyK said:
Yep, bit pissed off with this as I'm in an affected area. Lots of pans of boiling water on the go.
Have to be carefull as my immune systems is a bit fked up and getting ill isnt a good idea.
Add in the fact I'm a chef in high risk areas and I would be off work for a few weeks as if i was ill.
Local school closed as well. Friends who live opposite the reservoir have said there have been more SWW vans around for a few weeks so something was happening.
Highest water bills in the country or something?
South West Water are ucking fuseless and have been for the twenty odd years I've lived in South Devon.Have to be carefull as my immune systems is a bit f
ked up and getting ill isnt a good idea.Add in the fact I'm a chef in high risk areas and I would be off work for a few weeks as if i was ill.
Local school closed as well. Friends who live opposite the reservoir have said there have been more SWW vans around for a few weeks so something was happening.
Highest water bills in the country or something?
Fortunately my TQ postcode isn't affected but I have several workmates who live in Brixham and to say they are pissed off is an understatement.
thatsprettyshady said:
I live a few miles away but not in the affected area.
Local FB groups are demanding lockdowns and curfew etc as apparently this can spread person to person. I'm not sure if it's meant to be tongue in cheek but the level of hysteria here is off the charts.
It seems the water company have found the source of the bug, a leaky air valve at the res.
Id love to see what is roaming around the valve. Must be a farmers field or something. Local FB groups are demanding lockdowns and curfew etc as apparently this can spread person to person. I'm not sure if it's meant to be tongue in cheek but the level of hysteria here is off the charts.
It seems the water company have found the source of the bug, a leaky air valve at the res.
thatsprettyshady said:
21TonyK said:
It is indeed sited on farmland at "Hill Head" which as the name suggests is not really arable.
As you know, this is the place that SWW seem to have been concentrating on. That farm situated opposite, livestock I wonder?
(not funny actually, real PITA, literally)Not an unusual event then, it happens, most reservoirs by nature have farms around them, but its why they have a range of instruments to test for stuff like this at a WTW. The ball ache of explaining it will come if there isn't a crypto rig on site and if there is why was it not picked up sooner.
21TonyK said:
thatsprettyshady said:
21TonyK said:
It is indeed sited on farmland at "Hill Head" which as the name suggests is not really arable.
As you know, this is the place that SWW seem to have been concentrating on. That farm situated opposite, livestock I wonder?
(not funny actually, real PITA, literally)
I saw on the news that the water company said the water is now safe to drink.
Water to the kitchen tap should be from the rising main so that should be OK.
But many, perhaps a majority of UK properties have a cold tank which supplies the other taps, I presume I am not alone in cleaning my teeth in the bathroom.
So if the Cryptosporidium is in the tank and can presumably multiply within the tank, it seems to me that only a complete draindown and sanitising of the system could make it safe.
Or am I wrong?
Water to the kitchen tap should be from the rising main so that should be OK.
But many, perhaps a majority of UK properties have a cold tank which supplies the other taps, I presume I am not alone in cleaning my teeth in the bathroom.
So if the Cryptosporidium is in the tank and can presumably multiply within the tank, it seems to me that only a complete draindown and sanitising of the system could make it safe.
Or am I wrong?
Metric Max said:
I saw on the news that the water company said the water is now safe to drink.
Water to the kitchen tap should be from the rising main so that should be OK.
But many, perhaps a majority of UK properties have a cold tank which supplies the other taps, I presume I am not alone in cleaning my teeth in the bathroom.
So if the Cryptosporidium is in the tank and can presumably multiply within the tank, it seems to me that only a complete draindown and sanitising of the system could make it safe.
Or am I wrong?
Only older houses will have a cold tank and that should be to supply the boiler for water (header tank) / upstairs taps. A very few will supply the whole house. Downstairs taps will be mostly from the main.Water to the kitchen tap should be from the rising main so that should be OK.
But many, perhaps a majority of UK properties have a cold tank which supplies the other taps, I presume I am not alone in cleaning my teeth in the bathroom.
So if the Cryptosporidium is in the tank and can presumably multiply within the tank, it seems to me that only a complete draindown and sanitising of the system could make it safe.
Or am I wrong?
Cold tanks in the loft that feed drinking water are not a great idea as evidenced by my day when he found a dead pigeon in his.
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