Megan and Harry documentary

[Nightmare]

pincher said:

I think I will wait until I have read Peirs Morgan's tweets on the matter before I form my opinion.....

That’s a good point. I have zero interest in finding out any details of any of this but the fact that Piers Morgan doesn’t like her means I’m fairly sure Megan is probably pretty awesome

[Tom8]

All so strange. Complain about privacy. Then go on Oprah and tell her and the world all about your private life.
Continue to moan about privacy and then make a full blown programme for the globe all about your private life.

I would like them to have their privacy so they shut up and disappear and we don't have to see them or hear about them and they don't cash in on an inherited position.

[popeyewhite]

Golfgtimk28v said:

He seems fine to me, maybe Megan just gave him the strength of character to stand up against what he found wrong.

Harry appears a nice chap, however he has never got over the death of his mother. Megan will indulge this, as it abets her sense of outrage that Royal life was not actually the fairytale she hoped for all her life.. some people stood up to her whims, she wasn't universally liked and she had to work a bit. In America the couple are popular with the meg-rich charity raising crowd such as the Kennedys. This means her vacuous and superficial lifestyle can still resemble something Royal...just not English Royal.

[Deranged Rover]

popeyewhite said:

Harry appears a nice chap,

I agree with this. Up until he met the z-list fun sponge, I thought he was a right laugh and a breath of fresh air in the Royal Family

Unfortunately, I've heard through a distant contact of a friend who worked in the Royal household, he is apparently as thick as mince and pretty easily led. Perfect fodder for a manipulator like dear Rachel.

I won't be watching but will undoubtedly receive the edited highlights from my sister over Christmas. Let's just say she's not a fan of the pair but is moderately obsessed by the whole thing!

[Gullwings]

Same old crap to be expected from PH

So far the documentary has told us all what we already knew - tabloids are the scourge of the country and peddle the narrative in what ever way they see fit - and everyone laps it up

The replies on this thread in my mind do nothing but confirm this

I eagerly await the next few episodes to see what silt is stirred up. I still believe this is a witch hunt against someone who doesn't look or behave like a royal, and her husband who rightfully stands by his wife

[Paul-j4zwd]

Meghan has made a fundamental error. She says she was given a hard time because she looks black. But she doesn't.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Paul-j4zwd said:

Meghan has made a fundamental error. She says she was given a hard time because she looks black. But she doesn't.

Did she actually say that? I've never seen reference to that. She says the race element played a massive role in the negative coverage in the UK. And that's born out by many of the headlines surrounding her. I recall "Harry's Girlfriend is Straight Outta Compton", Harry's Gone Gansta" and the Daily Mail's repeated references to her exotic DNA.

[Muzzer79]

They (especially Meghan) seem so narcissistic

It’s all me, me, me, woe is me, aren’t I hard done by.

You’re in the spotlight, you attract media, either deal with it or truly withdraw from public life - you can’t have both.

[popeyewhite]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Did she actually say that?

Yes, recently. I remember thinking at the time it was an odd thing to say.

[Stuart2022]

Does he seem like a nice guy?

From dressing up as a nazi, to calling a colleague a pa**, to injuring a horse with spurs, to expecting the tax payers to pick up his security costs in Canada; these are just the things his family / “team” didn’t manage to brush under the carpet.

I think he comes across as a petulant child.

While I’m sure there were aspects of his childhood that were challenging, as the “spare” and with his connections, he could have done almost anything.

As others have said, this is an American program, for Americans. Where ones worth is judged by how far up on the victimhood scale you sit.

But then, if someone offered me a load of cash to wander round, moaning about everything that ever went wrong with my life, times my family offended / upset me and my views on the media, I’d bite their hand off!

[elanfan]

Is it me or has Meghan done the classic control freak job on Harry? Separated him from his family, separated him from his friends, caused a rift so it’s difficult to go back and finally moved him thousands of miles away, dropped some sprogs so has him on a leash for the next 18 years.

Hope he wakes up to it but doubt he will.

[Paul-j4zwd]

Stuart2022 said:

Does he seem like a nice guy?

From dressing up as a nazi, to calling a colleague a pa**, to injuring a horse with spurs...

Sorry, I can't stand this habit of condemning a whole person for a few mistakes they've made In their lives, generally trivia being made more memorable by the Daily Mail blowing them up into monster proportions. (Apparently everyone in the barrack room called the guy pa** as a nickname and he didn't mind at all)

You may well be right that Harry isn't a nice person, but please don't copy the poster I saw recently who preached "I used to like Prince Charles but changed my mind when I saw him get cross over the leaking pen".

[Pelicula]

Yes but where is she from ?
I mean, where is she really from ?
Like where are her people from ?

[PHZero]

elanfan said:

Is it me or has Meghan done the classic control freak job on Harry? Separated him from his family, separated him from his friends, caused a rift so it’s difficult to go back and finally moved him thousands of miles away, dropped some sprogs so has him on a leash for the next 18 years.

Hope he wakes up to it but doubt he will.

You've nailed it.

[rigga]

PHZero said:

elanfan said:

Is it me or has Meghan done the classic control freak job on Harry? Separated him from his family, separated him from his friends, caused a rift so it’s difficult to go back and finally moved him thousands of miles away, dropped some sprogs so has him on a leash for the next 18 years.

Hope he wakes up to it but doubt he will.

You've nailed it.

I suspect it won't be for 18years ,once she can't seem to get what she wants out of him, she'll be off with the kids.

[Siko]

Watched the first two last night with an open mind. Like others on here I think it was a missed opportunity having a mixed-race woman at the heart of the Royal Family and a shame it didn't work out.

Harry comes across as a very damaged individual though and maybe understandably obsessed to the point of paranoia about the press. One particular scene where they were in a car being taken from an airport and he was getting mega stressed about a 'pap' on a bike somewhere that you never saw showed to me he was not a healthy person, given his background you would expect a certain acceptance of the press and it was not like you even saw the 'pap'.

I felt it was sensationalising and desperately trying to play the race card on some press articles that, if Meghans mum was white and from a poor area of anywhere, you wouldn't have batted an eyelid at. His main grievance (sofar) seems to be that the Royal family didn't take the fact that she was mixed-race into account and give her more protection that they themselves had. There's a certain irony there of course and whilst my first thought was that it was a pretty good vindication of them treating everyone equally, I can see that maybe a more sensitive approach would have shielded her a bit more. Which is obviously not what Kate got either and therein lies the nub of the issue - Meghan seems to have been treated like anyone else joining the family like it or not.

There does appear to be a fair bit of 'Dianiasing' Meghan and lots of snips of her charity work and 'look how much charity work she does, just like my mum did' type stuff from Harry. That's fine but I think what relevance does it have to this? I may sound critical and I still have an open mind on this/them but my first thoughts are that two damaged individuals are playing out a relatively minor family disagreement in full view of the world. I'll wait to see what the next 3 episodes show but I just saw that maybe the RF were a bit insensitive.

[Golfgtimk28v]

My feeling is the royal family is looked upon as higher than haz and megs. I think megs get a lot of st as she isn't traditional royal family fodder, blood related or European.

I do love how the rest of the royal family aren't criticised even with all their issues, whereas haz and megs seemed to be singled out.

[Muzzer79]

Golfgtimk28v said:

My feeling is the royal family is looked upon as higher than haz and megs. I think megs get a lot of st as she isn't traditional royal family fodder, blood related or European.

I do love how the rest of the royal family aren't criticised even with all their issues, whereas haz and megs seemed to be singled out.

Really??

You think Prince Andrew has been having good press coverage over the last 12 months??

I think Meghan gets a lot of st because she seemingly refused to accept the role she married in to when she took it on.

Now, not accepting it is fine - resign from that role and go and live in America quietly. But don't make Netflix documentaries complaining about it and portraying yourself as some kind of victim.

I think the tables are turning on them and, even in America, they are getting pushback for always complaining.

In celebrity terms, all they have is their titles, ironically. They aren't rich compared to proper celebrities, in fact they're pretty skint in comparison, and they don't have a significant talent. They're like the ultimate 'influencers'

[smn159]

I thought it was pretty decent and that the two of them came across well. Interesting bit on the history of the commonwealth too.

The press coverage has been absolutely ludicrous though. Maybe there was a separate documentary just for them as the one that I watched certainly didn't warrant the vitriol.

[smn159]

Deranged Rover said:

Unfortunately, I've heard through a distant contact of a friend who worked in the Royal household...

I now can't help wondering is all of your opinions are founded in such robust evidence