PoE Digital CCTV systems

[anxious_ant]

OldGermanHeaps said:

Thats another plus for hik, they dont use dozens of overdriven small leds, the use proper powr leds with heatsinking and thermal managment of current, never had an ir go in them in tens of thousands fitted.
Had other issues like water ingress and sticking icr filters but never an ir issue, and the 3 year warranty is good.
If you go turbo hd instead of ip you could probably get 4k colorvus close to budget.

Interesting. What is turbo hd? Is this BNC technology?
I am thinking PoE for future proofing. Work uses these around the warehouses and they are brilliant, one cable which provides power, video and audio in glorious HD

[Chris Type R]

OldGermanHeaps said:

Thats another benefit of colorvu, far less spiders. Spiders love infra red, and colourvu has no ir.
Spiderx spray is good too.

Good advice - we're in an area with lots of spiders (big hedges).

[OldGermanHeaps]

Turbohd is bnc yes, but you can run power, video and audio down 1 cat5/6 in exactly the same way as if you were using ip, using baluns intead of an rj45.

[Baldchap]

Anyone have any experience with the Unifi Protect kit? I have a Unifi home network including UDMP so this feels like a logical next step when the current cameras get replaced...

[thebraketester]

Baldchap said:

Anyone have any experience with the Unifi Protect kit? I have a Unifi home network including UDMP so this feels like a logical next step when the current cameras get replaced...

Looks like excellent hardware/software but it's not cheap.

[anxious_ant]

Baldchap said:

I have used these guys in the past for Hikvision stuff, with no issues (I'm not trade or anything):

https://www.cctvkits.co.uk/

Thanks for this link. Ended up using them as I've decided to go with 3 camera HikVision system in the end.


Shopping list:
NVR : Hikvision HiLook NVR-104MH-C/4P 4 channel 4K NVR with 4 port POE

HDD : Toshiba S300 (Pro) CCTV Hard Drive 2TB

Cameras : x3 Hikvision HiLook ColorVu Lite IPC-B159H 5MP Full-Time Colour Half Metal Bullet Camera 30M White Light Range - 2.8mm

Additional camera : Ring doorbell hardwired
Reason for this is that I was going for dome to monitor porch/front door but it would be better off just getting a ring doorbell for the notifications.

Cable (i went a bit crazy on this, but it should be robust enough without needing conduits) : External SHIELDED CAT6A Outdoor Use COPPER Ethernet Cable S/FTP Reel 100m White

Comes to about £460 for the hardware which is within budget

[Chipstick]

OP, how are you finding your new setup?

I am considering going for the same items myself.

How bright is the white LED on the camera at night? It’s one thing that I’m stalling over. Whilst many may say it adds to the deterrent, I don’t really want to draw attention to where the camera is.

[LeadFarmer]

With PoE system, does it just need a single ethernet cable to each camera, or do they also need a video cable running alongside too?
With say a 4 x camera system, do the four ethernet cables connect to the NVR, with that connecting to your home router?

[Chris Type R]

LeadFarmer said:

With PoE system, does it just need a single ethernet cable to each camera, or do they also need a video cable running alongside too?
With say a 4 x camera system, do the four ethernet cables connect to the NVR, with that connecting to your home router?

Single network cable for each camera from the NVR.

[LeadFarmer]

Chris Type R said:

LeadFarmer said:

With PoE system, does it just need a single ethernet cable to each camera, or do they also need a video cable running alongside too?
With say a 4 x camera system, do the four ethernet cables connect to the NVR, with that connecting to your home router?

Single network cable for each camera from the NVR.

Thanks, so no need for a video cable to transmit the image to the NVR? The ethernet cable does this?

[Chris Type R]

LeadFarmer said:

Chris Type R said:

LeadFarmer said:

With PoE system, does it just need a single ethernet cable to each camera, or do they also need a video cable running alongside too?
With say a 4 x camera system, do the four ethernet cables connect to the NVR, with that connecting to your home router?

Single network cable for each camera from the NVR.

Thanks, so no need for a video cable to transmit the image to the NVR? The ethernet cable does this?

Yes.

[thebraketester]

Doesn't have to go back to the NVR. You can connect them to your network if it's more convinent (will require POE injector)

[Register1]

normalbloke said:

I’ve got Hikvision on the house. 5x 5mp turrets and 2x PTZs for the wildlife. Been on the house for 2.5 years. Zero complaints or faults. Would choose the same again.

Hikvision all the way.
I have 2 Speed Domes (PTZ)
25 optical zoom and 16 digital
4MP
Auto tracking.
The awesom bit is the 150 meters IR range.
Accurate human and vehicle target classification, alarm, and linked tracking based on deep learning algorithm
Face capture: Up to 5 faces captured at the same time
https://www.hikvision.com/uk/products/IP-Products/...

Got 2 of them,
One coveres left side and back, one covers right side and back

[snotrag]

thebraketester said:

Doesn't have to go back to the NVR. You can connect them to your network if it's more convinent (will require POE injector)

This is the beauty of POE in my eyes. My recorder is up in the office at one end of the house. Garage is down across the garden at the other end. I have multiple cameras off the garage, pointing at the drive/garden etc all connected to a cheap network switch up in the roof. Then there is one single run of Cat6E (in the same ducting as the armoured power cable)* from the house down the garage, carrying all the camera feeds, in 5mp/super HD, plus network and internet connectivity, in one cable.

To add camera anywhere else, you just connect them up whereever is nearest. Its super easy.

• nope, no issues there either, network speed is perfect and no interference, I've tested it!

[LeadFarmer]

snotrag said:

thebraketester said:

Doesn't have to go back to the NVR. You can connect them to your network if it's more convinent (will require POE injector)

This is the beauty of POE in my eyes. My recorder is up in the office at one end of the house. Garage is down across the garden at the other end. I have multiple cameras off the garage, pointing at the drive/garden etc all connected to a cheap network switch up in the roof. Then there is one single run of Cat6E (in the same ducting as the armoured power cable)* from the house down the garage, carrying all the camera feeds, in 5mp/super HD, plus network and internet connectivity, in one cable.

To add camera anywhere else, you just connect them up whereever is nearest. Its super easy.

• nope, no issues there either, network speed is perfect and no interference, I've tested it!

I assume that a laptop or phone can connect remotely to the NVR for viewing recordings & live view?

If the ethernet cables were connected to the NVR, can the NVR be connected to my internet router by wifi, or is a wired connection needed?

[rxe]

Baldchap said:

Anyone have any experience with the Unifi Protect kit? I have a Unifi home network including UDMP so this feels like a logical next step when the current cameras get replaced...

Yes.

The ease of use and software is excellent. While the cameras are pricy, IMO a Cloud Key Gen2 is a really cheap NVR especially when you stuff a 5 TB drive in it. I already needed one to run the network, so essentially I got the NVR bit for about £50.

The app for IOS is pretty much perfect, it just works, and you can view it all on their cloud platform as well. Dunno about Hikvisio camera software, but we have a Hikvision burglar alarm, and the app is unutterably st, to the point of unusable.

I've never had a camera fail, even the G3 Micro in a barn owl box that was attacked by the barn owl. The G3 Micros are very sensitive to WiFi signal strength.

We have a G4 Pro at the front of the house, had plod round one evening on an unrelated matter, and he was most impressed by the blue light radar thing when it sees you. It doesn't do facial recognition out of the box, but you could feed a stream to AWS Rekognition if you want to.

[megaphone]

OP hasn't reported back yet, probably still trying to terminate CAT6A.

[snotrag]

LeadFarmer said:

I assume that a laptop or phone can connect remotely to the NVR for viewing recordings & live view?

If the ethernet cables were connected to the NVR, can the NVR be connected to my internet router by wifi, or is a wired connection needed?

I'm on Reolink not Hikvision but yes, multiple options. Any computer/laptop on the same network can get into the (password protecred) web app and lvie view, do all the setup etc. You cna also use the really good mobile app, which is our main way of viewing.

I also have a HDMI out the back of the recorder down into the TV in the loungs so thats a completely non web-based way of viewing - it will still be recording, and still viewable, completely disregarding any outside internet connection or lack of.

[Evoluzione]

Has anybody found a camera which reads vehicle number plates at night yet? This to me is one of the huge downsides of most home CCTV systems.

[anxious_ant]

megaphone said:

OP hasn't reported back yet, probably still trying to terminate CAT6A.

Cat6E is where it's at

Ordered the Hikvision kit with ColorVU nighttime colour cams as linked above. Pretty good price at it was all under £350 inc vat.
Opted for ring doorbell as the front door camera. Realised not as good quality as IP cam but 2-in-1 function won it.
Just awaiting installation next week.
Won't have internet at the property as yet so would have to setup locally.