Will VAR Change Football for the Better?
Discussion
Bluevanman said:
Even that's been known to fail,no system is full proof,least of all one that's interpreted by humans ie VAR
Yeah the goal line technology rate limiting step is a body of humans stood in front of the cameras so they cannot ascertain if over the line or not. However how many times has this happened? Once in 10 years in the Premier League?Ultimately, VAR is implemented by people, which is prone to error...
So, just allow the errors on the pitch as they were and retain the emotion. The statement by Wolves is 100% spot on imo.
As a season ticket holder at Ipswich, the season has definitely evened out on wrong/right decisions. You can accept (with a degree) referee error as they're watching real time. VAR is something I'm not looking forward to.
So, just allow the errors on the pitch as they were and retain the emotion. The statement by Wolves is 100% spot on imo.
As a season ticket holder at Ipswich, the season has definitely evened out on wrong/right decisions. You can accept (with a degree) referee error as they're watching real time. VAR is something I'm not looking forward to.
Jordie Barretts sock said:
VAR should only be used if the referee has any doubt. Like Rugby Union. It should never replace the referee to disallow a goal because neither the linesman or referee spotted a toenail offside.
TMO is always working and will alert the ref to something they havent spotted as well. Maybe they should show the replays in the stadium as well instead of trotting across to a tiny monitor and keeping it all secret. Broadcast the discussions and have more transparency.
Jordie Barretts sock said:
VAR should only be used if the referee has any doubt. Like Rugby Union. It should never replace the referee to disallow a goal because neither the linesman or referee spotted a toenail offside.
TMO? *Screams into the void in Scotland v France Six Nations 2024*TEKNOPUG said:
My biggest issue is that I don't believe that they can pick and choose what is subject to VAR and what is not. If VAR is switched "on", it needs to be on for everything. For example, currently they don't intervene when the wrong decision has been made about the ball going out of play, Why not? There was an incident on Tuesday when the ball clearly came off Gvardiol for a corner but it was given as a goal kick. Why didn't VAR correct that? And why is there a subjective decision about the degree to which a referee got an incident wrong before VAR intervenes?
They are trying to let the onfield officials run the game and only intervene when it's "clear and obvious" - if it's wrong, it's wrong. You can't be a bit wrong like you can't be a bit pregnant. Then they take 5 minutes reviewing an incident that VAR clearly felt was a "clear and obvious" error.... It's the worst of both worlds. Either everything should be subject to VAR or nothing should be.
They are trying to let the onfield officials run the game and only intervene when it's "clear and obvious" - if it's wrong, it's wrong. You can't be a bit wrong like you can't be a bit pregnant. Then they take 5 minutes reviewing an incident that VAR clearly felt was a "clear and obvious" error.... It's the worst of both worlds. Either everything should be subject to VAR or nothing should be.
Edited by TEKNOPUG on Thursday 16th May 11:06
Bluevanman said:
Terminator X said:
Good riddance to it. Calling offside for an arm etc is insane.
On handball it always used to be hand to ball not ball to hand. Bring that back.
TX.
As you can't score a goal with an arm likewise you can't be offside with an arm.VAR has never done what you've described.On handball it always used to be hand to ball not ball to hand. Bring that back.
TX.
The handball rule is what it is,VAR doesn't decide what the rule is
TX.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Terminator X said:
On handball it always used to be hand to ball not ball to hand. Bring that back.
TX.
So a defender rushes out to block a shot, spreads his arms as wide as poss in the hope that the ball will strike his hand or arm. When the shot eventually hits his hand or arm, that's ball to hand, not hand to ball. His arm was already out and the ball was then kicked against it. You seriously don't think that should be a pen. Of course it should. That's why it's not as simple as you suggest. TX.
TX.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
NRG1976 said:
Semi auto offside good.
Goal line tech good.
VAR get rid.
Get rid of it all. The very occasional goal not being given even though it was over the line, or being given when it wasn't, is brilliant stuff. Fans remember it for years, and can blame a defeat on it for ever even though they would have got thrashed anyway. Like Lampard v Germany in the WC. Goal line tech good.
VAR get rid.
pavarotti1980 said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
VAR should only be used if the referee has any doubt. Like Rugby Union. It should never replace the referee to disallow a goal because neither the linesman or referee spotted a toenail offside.
TMO is always working and will alert the ref to something they havent spotted as well. Maybe they should show the replays in the stadium as well instead of trotting across to a tiny monitor and keeping it all secret. Broadcast the discussions and have more transparency.
I wish the respect for the referee was the same in football as it is rugby. I for one have had enough of players clearly swearing at officials and getting very aggressive and in their face.
If a football player spoke to a rugby official like they do football referees, they would be off the pitch every game. It’s atrocious the attitude and behaviour on display.
pavarotti1980 said:
G-wiz said:
Rugby is stop-start though, it can work there. Football is more fluid, less stops. VAR has ruined it.
Football is massively start stop. Hence the stats of the ball only being play something like 55-60% of the time (or maybe even less). Terminator X said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Terminator X said:
On handball it always used to be hand to ball not ball to hand. Bring that back.
TX.
So a defender rushes out to block a shot, spreads his arms as wide as poss in the hope that the ball will strike his hand or arm. When the shot eventually hits his hand or arm, that's ball to hand, not hand to ball. His arm was already out and the ball was then kicked against it. You seriously don't think that should be a pen. Of course it should. That's why it's not as simple as you suggest. TX.
TX.
Far better that than your solution, with defenders being able to spread their arms as wide as poss because so long as they do that before the ball is struck, it can never be handball.
TEKNOPUG said:
48k said:
No way will Wolves get 13 other clubs voting to scrap VAR.
Why do the clubs' want it though? Where's the financial angle?They can't all think that they benefit from VAR making decisions?
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