RE: 2023 Ford Ranger Raptor 3.0 V6 | UK Review

[British Beef]

blearyeyedboy said:

S600BSB said:

When is the EV version coming?

I'm going to make myself very unpopular...

Looking at the F150 Lightning and its ability to power lots of tools directly from the truck, I suspect that an EV Ranger might actually be very useful for some businesses. Not all, I grant you, but enough to make it an interesting proposition as a business tool.

Very true, also brilliant for camping and caravaning where a large battery can keep you powered for a day or two.

And business users get great deals on EV cars, so even more sense, and make it commercial qualifiying and get VAT back....even better!

As it is and not being commercial qualifying, reduced payload and towing capacity, this is more of a vanity project / toy than a workhorse.

[Big Rat]

rallycross said:

Ford Raptor - soon to be dominating the outside lane of a motorway near you - the only way to get past is a fuel stop or undertake the roid-rage idiot driving it.



Maybe the rear view mirror is an option on these horrendous horrible things ?

Oh yawn you just seem to specialise in this type of vehicle Internet drivel, I’ve a groundwork’s business and the guys including me rely on these for work and personal use….and I’m sure you would not make these kind of insults to any of them personally….I’m just guessing of course…….

[P-Jay]

Big Rat said:

P-Jay said:

Oh god they've made a faster one.

Sorry if you have one, but I've never seen one that wasn't driven by an insecure riod head with no neck and a face the colour of a baboon’s arse.

Honestly when it comes to pickups, I'd rather be greeted by a white Toyota with 6 Talibanis crowded around a DShK in the back than 'Bazzer' with his 'BO55' plate coming the other way, at least they used to be glacially slow.

I hope the UK insurance industry see these coming a mile off and make a special Group 51 for them "likely to be driven by irate drug driver with god complex and anger issues".

Oh really and you’re speaking as someone who on an open forum previous thread admits to ‘having had ‘ a cocaine habit as well as other drugs……..so you never dove whilst under the influence……yeah right…..makes you look rather silly now your sweeping statements above…

Oh Jeez, I must have hit a nerve for you to trawl back looking for 'dirt' ha ha.

It's true, I did used to enjoy 'the drugs', I don't recall ever driving under the influence, well, that said I did drive a Landcruiser pissed once, but in my defence, it was 'very' off-road and about to be taken by the incoming tide.

The important thing to remember though, is I never said taking drugs was a good idea, something to aspire to or harmless and acceptable to do if you're going to drive. I still drink now and again, but that doesn't mean it's okay to drink and drive either.

I intended it to be light-hearted, but now I stand by every syllable.

[Wadeski]

pheonix478 said:

Wadeski said:

I keep seeing this...I assume because Jeremy Clarkson said it once, but here in the US people don't leave valuable things in the bed of their pickups either.
...

Did he? I lived there for years and IME it varies hugely depending where you are hence the comment re Montana. Obviously NY is very different. Where I live now pickups are very common and you can leave what you like in the bed, most people don't even lock their cars.

Sure, in rural upstate NY where we have a mountain house people don't lock their cars either.

But people still use pickup trucks in places where you do.

I think the Clarkson comment was in his review of the previous gen Lightning.

[Speed addicted]

pheonix478 said:

I can see how that would work in Montana but I'd worry you'd have nothing left if you leave it unattended for 5 minutes in the UK!

If only there was an array of options to cover the load bed ranging from fabric covers to canopies that work with the central locking.
It’s almost like you’re expected to buy the basic truck and add accessories to suit your needs. Weird.

Darnoc95 said:

What on earth is this even doing on PH. Its a bloody truck ffs!

And? Are you also offended by Rangerover reviews?

Edited by Speed addicted on Friday 3rd March 19:44

[downbytheriver7]

P-Jay said:

Oh god they've made a faster one.

Sorry if you have one, but I've never seen one that wasn't driven by an insecure riod head with no neck and a face the colour of a baboon’s arse.

Honestly when it comes to pickups, I'd rather be greeted by a white Toyota with 6 Talibanis crowded around a DShK in the back than 'Bazzer' with his 'BO55' plate coming the other way, at least they used to be glacially slow.

I hope the UK insurance industry see these coming a mile off and make a special Group 51 for them "likely to be driven by irate drug driver with god complex and anger issues".

Very funny Mr Little. I have the new one, and had the old one, you don't need to be sorry. It is indeed a brilliant vehicle. Great for hauling my MTBs and skis around Europe, fun on and off-road, pretty darn refined, and not bad popping to the shop in also.

I don't think your implied driver stereotype holds up but I do hope you manage to resolve your issues

[downbytheriver7]

rallycross said:

Ford Raptor - soon to be dominating the outside lane of a motorway near you - the only way to get past is a fuel stop or undertake the roid-rage idiot driving it.



Maybe the rear view mirror is an option on these horrendous horrible things ?

If only, reality is, more likely some Karen in a mid-size underpowered SUV combo cross type of thing on a finance deal, trying to get to her gym class because she's way more important than you

[pheonix478]

Speed addicted said:

pheonix478 said:

I can see how that would work in Montana but I'd worry you'd have nothing left if you leave it unattended for 5 minutes in the UK!

If only there was an array of options to cover the load bed ranging from fabric covers to canopies that work with the central locking.
It’s almost like you’re expected to buy the basic truck and add accessories to suit your needs. Weird.

Yes very good and when you put a hard cover on you're now limited to 18" in height, and a cargo space of about 40 square feet compared to a big SUV like a Touareg/X5 etc with something like 35 or 70cuft with the back seats down (or a transit with 100's). All I'm saying is the utility is pretty limited when you might be stopping anywhere you don't necessarily want people seeing what you've got, or physically limited if you use a cover. If you're towing something like a track car around the country a decent covered trailer that can fit everything in and a nice big comfy SUV is just a better setup all round. I like pickups but trucks like the Ranger are a low rent, crappy riding, miserable place to spend any length of time behind the wheel.

[BikeSausage]

pheonix478 said:

Speed addicted said:

pheonix478 said:

I can see how that would work in Montana but I'd worry you'd have nothing left if you leave it unattended for 5 minutes in the UK!

If only there was an array of options to cover the load bed ranging from fabric covers to canopies that work with the central locking.
It’s almost like you’re expected to buy the basic truck and add accessories to suit your needs. Weird.

Yes very good and when you put a hard cover on you're now limited to 18" in height, and a cargo space of about 40 square feet compared to a big SUV like a Touareg/X5 etc with something like 35 or 70cuft with the back seats down (or a transit with 100's). All I'm saying is the utility is pretty limited when you might be stopping anywhere you don't necessarily want people seeing what you've got, or physically limited if you use a cover. If you're towing something like a track car around the country a decent covered trailer that can fit everything in and a nice big comfy SUV is just a better setup all round. I like pickups but trucks like the Ranger are a low rent, crappy riding, miserable place to spend any length of time behind the wheel.

Yep, very relevant. Beyond the perceived “image” and “status” for the blacked out gym boys, there is very little objective benefit of this type of vehicle over an SUV or a large 4WD estate. They really are st at journeys compared to normal cars. I have tried one for 6 months. Never again. And I need the 4WD, space and ground clearance.

For those genuinely needing the pickup utility, the still comfortable bit more basic utes would suffice.

But they don’t fulfil ill the “big man” compensation needs, I guess.

[P-Jay]

downbytheriver7 said:

P-Jay said:

Oh god they've made a faster one.

Sorry if you have one, but I've never seen one that wasn't driven by an insecure riod head with no neck and a face the colour of a baboon’s arse.

Honestly when it comes to pickups, I'd rather be greeted by a white Toyota with 6 Talibanis crowded around a DShK in the back than 'Bazzer' with his 'BO55' plate coming the other way, at least they used to be glacially slow.

I hope the UK insurance industry see these coming a mile off and make a special Group 51 for them "likely to be driven by irate drug driver with god complex and anger issues".

Very funny Mr Little. I have the new one, and had the old one, you don't need to be sorry. It is indeed a brilliant vehicle. Great for hauling my MTBs and skis around Europe, fun on and off-road, pretty darn refined, and not bad popping to the shop in also.

I don't think your implied driver stereotype holds up but I do hope you manage to resolve your issues

Lost the paint off your downtube yet? 😉

[MC Bodge]

BikeSausage said:

Yep, very relevant. Beyond the perceived “image” and “status” for the blacked out gym boys, there is very little objective benefit of this type of vehicle over an SUV or a large 4WD estate. They really are st at journeys compared to normal cars. I have tried one for 6 months. Never again. And I need the 4WD, space and ground clearance.

For those genuinely needing the pickup utility, the still comfortable bit more basic utes would suffice.

But they don’t fulfil ill the “big man” compensation needs, I guess.

My uncle had a market garden type business and got him self a pickup - A Peugeot 504 - remember them? Quite good at the time, LSD and rugged, Welsh hill farmers used them and people in Africa probably still do.

He soon swapped it for a Transit van as it was more useful, even though he drove on his fields.

[Big Rat]

pheonix478 said:

Yes very good and when you put a hard cover on you're now limited to 18" in height, and a cargo space of about 40 square feet compared to a big SUV like a Touareg/X5 etc with something like 35 or 70cuft with the back seats down (or a transit with 100's). All I'm saying is the utility is pretty limited when you might be stopping anywhere you don't necessarily want people seeing what you've got, or physically limited if you use a cover. If you're towing something like a track car around the country a decent covered trailer that can fit everything in and a nice big comfy SUV is just a better setup all round. I like pickups but trucks like the Ranger are a low rent, crappy riding, miserable place to spend any length of time behind the wheel.

But it’s horses for courses I’d not get far in a Transit or an X5 towing my twin axle Ifor Williams trailer with mini digger across fields for farm site work and so……and yes I agree an SUV would be more comfortable for the on road stuff but for those of us who need a vehicle it has to do both….

I don’t agree with the Low Rent crappy ride bit personally I’ve had 4 3.2 Wildtracks all with the older 6 speed auto box……collectively they’ve covered nearly 450,000 miles ….between me and my blokes and apart from normal servicing and tyres nothing absolutely nothing has gone wrong with any of them…….

[Speed addicted]

pheonix478 said:

Speed addicted said:

pheonix478 said:

I can see how that would work in Montana but I'd worry you'd have nothing left if you leave it unattended for 5 minutes in the UK!

If only there was an array of options to cover the load bed ranging from fabric covers to canopies that work with the central locking.
It’s almost like you’re expected to buy the basic truck and add accessories to suit your needs. Weird.

Yes very good and when you put a hard cover on you're now limited to 18" in height, and a cargo space of about 40 square feet compared to a big SUV like a Touareg/X5 etc with something like 35 or 70cuft with the back seats down (or a transit with 100's). All I'm saying is the utility is pretty limited when you might be stopping anywhere you don't necessarily want people seeing what you've got, or physically limited if you use a cover. If you're towing something like a track car around the country a decent covered trailer that can fit everything in and a nice big comfy SUV is just a better setup all round. I like pickups but trucks like the Ranger are a low rent, crappy riding, miserable place to spend any length of time behind the wheel.

Large and lockable boot space, with seating for 5 sorted.

I use my truck with a folding fabric cover fitted as it’s easy to remove when I need it out of the way and far cheaper than the (more secure) roller shutter covers. I also have a canopy in the shed.
It takes about 20 mins to fit the canopy if I need waterproof boot space that you could camp in.

My Mitsubishi is a lower rent and worse riding place to spend time than the Ford, but its abilities are useful for me so I keep it.
I’ve had large 4x4s and find the truck more practical while being slower and less refined. I did 18k miles in it last year.

Edited by Speed addicted on Friday 3rd March 21:31

[downbytheriver7]

P-Jay said:

Lost the paint off your downtube yet? ??

Why would that happen, tailgate pad and frame ride wrapped.
Why don't you come for a ride instead and stop being a d$ck on the forums?

[pheonix478]

Big Rat said:

But it’s horses for courses I’d not get far in a Transit or an X5 towing my twin axle Ifor Williams trailer with mini digger across fields for farm site work and so……and yes I agree an SUV would be more comfortable for the on road stuff but for those of us who need a vehicle it has to do both….

I don’t agree with the Low Rent crappy ride bit personally I’ve had 4 3.2 Wildtracks all with the older 6 speed auto box……collectively they’ve covered nearly 450,000 miles ….between me and my blokes and apart from normal servicing and tyres nothing absolutely nothing has gone wrong with any of them…….

No argument from me. Of course they're going to fit some use cases perfectly. Dirty, heavy, industrial/commercial it's what they're for.

[Big Rat]

pheonix478 said:

No argument from me. Of course they're going to fit some use cases perfectly. Dirty, heavy, industrial/commercial it's what they're for.

Absolutely right sir …..I must confess that I would not consider a Raptor for our kind of work ….we just wanted reliability and double up for the five seat family stuff after……a good wash !

This sort of stuff…….

[downbytheriver7]

Big Rat said:

But it’s horses for courses I’d not get far in a Transit or an X5 towing my twin axle Ifor Williams trailer with mini digger across fields for farm site work and so……and yes I agree an SUV would be more comfortable for the on road stuff but for those of us who need a vehicle it has to do both….

I don’t agree with the Low Rent crappy ride bit personally I’ve had 4 3.2 Wildtracks all with the older 6 speed auto box……collectively they’ve covered nearly 450,000 miles ….between me and my blokes and apart from normal servicing and tyres nothing absolutely nothing has gone wrong with any of them…….

The low rent comment is trash. The new Raptor is not low rent inside, maybe one is referring to other ranger models. It rides very very well with the FOX suspension, on $hitty UK B roads it's probably better than my Cayenne Turbo. Yeah, my Porsche has more leather but is it night and day more comfortable than the new Raptor, no way. You do lose some enclosed space with the pickup vs a SUV but depends what you're using it for.

[Big Rat]

Speed addicted said:

Large and lockable boot space, with seating for 5 sorted.

I use my truck with a folding fabric cover fitted as it’s easy to remove when I need it out of the way and far cheaper than the (more secure) roller shutter covers. I also have a canopy in the shed.
It takes about 20 mins to fit the canopy if I need waterproof boot space that you could camp in.

My Mitsubishi is a lower rent and worse riding place to spend time than the Ford, but its abilities are useful for me so I keep it.
I’ve had large 4x4s and find the truck more practical while being slower and less refined. I did 18k miles in it last year.

Edited by Speed addicted on Friday 3rd March 21:31

Good post from a post and sleeper man as well 👍

[unsprung]

Wadeski said:

Pickups have lockable boxes for tools in the bed, tie down points to fix down bikes or powersports vehicles, and if someone wants to try to steal half a ton of gravel or mulch, well good luck to them.

Besides, if you didnt have lockable compartments, where would you put the guns?

[rallycross]

Big Rat said:

Absolutely right sir …..I must confess that I would not consider a Raptor for our kind of work ….we just wanted reliability and double up for the five seat family stuff after……a good wash !

This sort of stuff…….

Ideal for trips back and forth to Rat*keale.