Worst aging cars?

[swisstoni]

I don’t think Old Father Time will look kindly on this sort of thing.
Just imho of course.

[stanlow45]

ingenieur said:

E90_M3Ross said:

ingenieur said:

T1berious said:

EV's have to chase low drag figures so add that to the brief of moving people and luggage means we get blobs.

Why do EVs have to chase low drag figures?

Range. Until amazing battery tech comes along when range isn't such a concern for many people then it will be a fairly significant factor I think.

I thought people who owned EVs could get from London to Aberdeen with one stop for a 15 minute charge.

[Gordon Hill]

Into the ordinary pot with Tesla I would throw most things from Korea from the mid 90's to around say 2005, not only didn't they age well they looked 15 years out of date when they were brand new, but they were a budget brand then and at least they had an excuse for manufacturing the mundane.
I also thought that about a basic VW golf Mk 5, it always looked to me like a Chinese knock off of a real golf and aged pretty quickly to my eyes.

Edited by Gordon Hill on Sunday 7th April 10:40

[GeniusOfLove]

I think the current range of VW SUVs (pick any, they all look the same) all look like they're from about 2014 even when they're brand new. I was wondering why this is in traffic the other day but even the ones on 23 plates look a decade old already.

[eldar]

G-wiz said:

Odd discussion,

A car from the 1930s looks around 100 years old now.

A car from the 1960s looks around 60 years old now.

A car from the 1980s looks around 40 years old now.

I could go on..........

Don't bother.

[ChocolateFrog]

eldar said:

G-wiz said:

Odd discussion,

A car from the 1930s looks around 100 years old now.

A car from the 1960s looks around 60 years old now.

A car from the 1980s looks around 40 years old now.

I could go on..........

Don't bother.

The whole point of the thread is that that notion is bks.

There's loads of examples of cars that if you took a box fresh version it wouldn't look out of place in a showroom today.

A Citroën C6 looks more modern than anything they make today and that's 20 years old.

Are you suggesting this looks 69 years old?

[fflump]

ingenieur said:

fflump said:

Audi saloons age badly IMO.
The company change the front end (especially grill) so often and so drastically as to render older iterations looking very dated.

Perhaps it is the case though that some of the Audis you're thinking of are now quite old? When they started getting quite spangley in the early naughties... that's 20 or more years ago now. Those cars should look old.

Yes partly, although even the B8 grill used up to 2016 very much says "old model"
Compared to a 10 year old Maserati Ghibli they look dated.

[J4CKO]

Olivera said:

J4CKO said:

But, they are also a bit plain and samey, I don’t think they are a bad shape at all, the 3 and S anyway, but the 3 just lacks a bit of visual impact and so many are in white as mentioned, see one in a nice strong red or blue and it lifts it, the Model S is better looking but they have been flogging what is essentially the same design for what 13 years ?

The general Tesla design language of clean and unfussy surfaces has stood the test of time, hence the Model S doesn't look particularly dated.

The Model 3 on the other hand is just rather odd, with a huge expanse of windscreen glass (in height) together with ubiquitous white giving it the duck billed platypus look.

Yeah, the S is better looking by a long way, kind of, to me is sort of a bit Jag XF looking, in proportions rather than actual looks/details.

I don’t dislike the 3, but partly down to the sheer numbers and it being a bit plain looking I tend not to notice them.

Model S has had some decent refreshes but there is only so far they can take it without a new model or more radical refresh, be investing to see what they do with it.

[Mincey]

E63eeeeee... said:

bobtail4x4 said:

Olivergt said:

Resolutionary said:

Any Nissan Juke. They get worse every time I see one.

I'm the opposite, I think they are now looking quite funky and different.

has anyone ever seen one well driven?

Nope. Uniformly dreadful. The worst driven cars by some distance. Maybe the windows are too small or something.

Glad it's not only me who thinks that. I always give Juke's a wide berth because they're usually being driven by a hoofw**king spanglett. Same applies to Qashqai's Do you have to pass a special test before buying one?

[epom]

ingenieur said:

fflump said:

Audi saloons age badly IMO.
The company change the front end (especially grill) so often and so drastically as to render older iterations looking very dated.

Perhaps it is the case though that some of the Audis you're thinking of are now quite old? When they started getting quite spangley in the early naughties... that's 20 or more years ago now. Those cars should look old.

2007/8 A4 avant- is still a handsome car in my opinion. I know you said saloons, but just saying so

[MikeM6]

ChocolateFrog said:

The whole point of the thread is that that notion is bks.

There's loads of examples of cars that if you took a box fresh version it wouldn't look out of place in a showroom today.

A Citroën C6 looks more modern than anything they make today and that's 20 years old.

Are you suggesting this looks 69 years old?

Yes, that does look 69 years old. Stunning, but certainly not anything other than old.

Bit like when the MK1 Focus gets trotted out as still looking fresh, which it really does not.

[T1berious]

epom said:

2007/8 A4 avant- is still a handsome car in my opinion. I know you said saloons, but just saying so

Yup, I was also going to add the S3 Saloon also (IMHO) looks pretty decent and is aging well. Mk V Golf GTi also is a good shout.

[kambites]

Some people seem to be interpreting this thread as "which cars have/hadn't aged" whereas I think the original question was "which cars have aged badly". An old car can look its age but still have aged extremely well (the SL above would be an example of that); conversely, a car can look more modern than it actually is but have aged very badly.

Edited by kambites on Sunday 7th April 12:10

[ingenieur]

MikeM6 said:

ChocolateFrog said:

The whole point of the thread is that that notion is bks.

There's loads of examples of cars that if you took a box fresh version it wouldn't look out of place in a showroom today.

A Citroën C6 looks more modern than anything they make today and that's 20 years old.

Are you suggesting this looks 69 years old?

Yes, that does look 69 years old. Stunning, but certainly not anything other than old.

Bit like when the MK1 Focus gets trotted out as still looking fresh, which it really does not.

Not a Ford fan to any great extent but a MK1 Focus 3-door in good condition all polished up would be a decent looking thing. It hasn't aged badly.. although does look old by this stage as we all know how old they are.

Example ST170 for sale on Autotrader. I think the basic shape has aged better than the RS

Edited by ingenieur on Sunday 7th April 11:25

[sly fox]

Surprised we have got this far through the thread without McLaren not being mentioned.

From the perspective of looking dated, they suffer from the evolutionary design approach McLaren take. The new 750s looks so similar the 570s from 2017 to me, ergo has instantly dated. And it wasn't an appealing design to start with.

And that puts McLaren into a difficult situation - scratch the current design language and deliver something fresh, and 6 or 7 model years will look even older than the time gap represents.

[MikeM6]

ingenieur said:

Not a Ford fan to any great extent but a MK1 Focus 3-door in good condition all polished up would be a decent looking thing. It hasn't aged badly.. although does look old by this stage as we all know how old they are.

Example ST170 for sale on Autotrader. I think the basic shape has aged better than the RS

Edited by ingenieur on Sunday 7th April 11:25

I guess we probably need to define what we mean by 'aged well' then, as I would say the MK1 Focus looks old and is not particularly good looking.

However, these things are subjective.

[revilo87]

kambites said:

Some people seem to be interpreting this thread as "which cars have/hadn't aged" whereas I think the original question was "which cars have aged badly". An old car can look its age but still have aged extremely well (the SLK above would be an example of that); conversely, a car can look more modern than it actually is but have aged very badly.

Eloquently put, and this was absolutely the intention - thought it might be a potentially fun topic

Some good shouts so far, definitely some I hadn’t really thought about

[ingenieur]

MikeM6 said:

ingenieur said:

Not a Ford fan to any great extent but a MK1 Focus 3-door in good condition all polished up would be a decent looking thing. It hasn't aged badly.. although does look old by this stage as we all know how old they are.

Example ST170 for sale on Autotrader. I think the basic shape has aged better than the RS

Edited by ingenieur on Sunday 7th April 11:25

I guess we probably need to define what we mean by 'aged well' then, as I would say the MK1 Focus looks old and is not particularly good looking.

However, these things are subjective.

Definitely subjective... makes for a good thread as there's no right answer. I wouldn't say the same about the MK2 Focus!

[kambites]

ingenieur said:

Definitely subjective... makes for a good thread as there's no right answer. I wouldn't say the same about the MK2 Focus!

I think the mk1 Focus was a fabulous design. All the later ones are thoroughly "meh".

[Gibbler290]

ajap1979 said:

ingenieur said:

E90_M3Ross said:

ingenieur said:

T1berious said:

EV's have to chase low drag figures so add that to the brief of moving people and luggage means we get blobs.

Why do EVs have to chase low drag figures?

Range. Until amazing battery tech comes along when range isn't such a concern for many people then it will be a fairly significant factor I think.

I thought people who owned EVs could get from London to Aberdeen with one stop for a 15 minute charge.

Come on people, I’m sure OP didn’t want his thread to turn into this

General Gassing threads rarely stay on topic longer than a few posts before someone barges in with an unrelated anecdote/opinion that derails the thread. Weak moderation.