Worst aging cars?
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fflump said:
ingenieur said:
fflump said:
Audi saloons age badly IMO.
The company change the front end (especially grill) so often and so drastically as to render older iterations looking very dated.
Perhaps it is the case though that some of the Audis you're thinking of are now quite old? When they started getting quite spangley in the early naughties... that's 20 or more years ago now. Those cars should look old. The company change the front end (especially grill) so often and so drastically as to render older iterations looking very dated.
Compared to a 10 year old Maserati Ghibli they look dated.
Because the Audi saloons aren't 'new' designs, they can never set the trend, only follow it - ergo old ones look dated. It's the same with fashion jeans. The basic garment is always the same, but you wouldn't be seen dead in a 20 year old pair with 'Juicy' or 'Von Dutch' embroidered across the backside.
One might compare the evolution of the Audi saloon to the revolutions that occurred with the successive marks of Cortina or even Mondeo. There were several ground-up redesigns, which resulted in completely new looks. Audi might consider doing the same...
To my eyes both the ioniq 5 and EV6 have not age well. Although I’m not a big fan of Tesla, they haven’t aged badly, they’re still as ubiquitous as ever.
I do find ICEs age far more gracefully. Maybe it’s just me, but most EVs looks rubbish as soon as they get a little bit dirty. It’s possible the focus on aero or the fact I just have more interest in ICE.
I do find ICEs age far more gracefully. Maybe it’s just me, but most EVs looks rubbish as soon as they get a little bit dirty. It’s possible the focus on aero or the fact I just have more interest in ICE.
ingenieur said:
MikeM6 said:
ingenieur said:
Not a Ford fan to any great extent but a MK1 Focus 3-door in good condition all polished up would be a decent looking thing. It hasn't aged badly.. although does look old by this stage as we all know how old they are.
Example ST170 for sale on Autotrader. I think the basic shape has aged better than the RS
I guess we probably need to define what we mean by 'aged well' then, as I would say the MK1 Focus looks old and is not particularly good looking. Example ST170 for sale on Autotrader. I think the basic shape has aged better than the RS
Edited by ingenieur on Sunday 7th April 11:25
However, these things are subjective.
Bangle BMWs are and odd one simply because they're a dead branch on the BMW design tree, with pre and post-Bangle designs being thematically similar (albeit separated by 5-10 years of changes in industry norms). I wouldn't trust someone in 2050 to put the E39/E60/F10 in sequence.
swisstoni said:
Never been a fan of the new Defender styling - always thinks it looks like a cross between an early Freelander and something Barbie and Ken would use to drive to the beach with cheap looking fisher price style detailing/accessories.
It did look quite modern when released but is already looking a bit tired whereas a neighbour has a dark blue D4 that still looks sharp and purposeful despite being ~15 years old.
epom said:
And an extremely insightful response too….
Ioniq 6 thing which looks awful to my eyes, will age slowly like all slugs.
In the USA (I heard on the Cars and Bids podcast) you can lease them for $239/month. No money upfront. That's for the base model of the Ioniq 6 (SE) and some dealers will do the same deal on the next model up (SE-L). They ain't movin'.Ioniq 6 thing which looks awful to my eyes, will age slowly like all slugs.
I think the Ioniq 5 looks orright and if it looks dated to anyone it's because it's meant to pretty much look like it's from the 1980's. Kia EV6 will certainly look pretty old when it's updated and inevitably looks completely different as Kia (and Hyundai) do. It looks like a blue whale.
Those big Genesis things looks pretty dated now. Even the current models are looking very 2010.
Someone else has said DB7 already. I agree. You so often read people predicting they are due to go up in value, but they just aren't good or unique enough cars to increase in value.
Some other cars I think have aged badly:
BMW i8 is just so uncool now
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The C class and SL of this 2004 era where they went for these merged alien wonky lights
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Ferrari F430 - I love every Ferrari except this one. And ironically it's the one I'm most likely to personally buy for the manual box and N/A.
A modern choice. The 4 series was ugly when it came out, the M3 and M4 looked good with the aggressive styling but this still looks awful
Aston Martin DB11. It is the Aston Martin with the least presence every made
McLaren 12C. They abandoned this design language so quickly that it makes this look like a kit car or an unbranded supercar you'd see on GTA V.
The new Jaguar F-Type. Looked nothingness when it came out and still does. The old one looked magnificent and still does.
I may take this one back, but Gen 1 BMW M2. They were stunning when they came out but the Comp looked so much better and the big lary aggressive successor has dilluted the Gen1 to the extent where it gets mistaken for a 240i
Some other cars I think have aged badly:
BMW i8 is just so uncool now
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[url]Ferrari F430 - I love every Ferrari except this one. And ironically it's the one I'm most likely to personally buy for the manual box and N/A.
A modern choice. The 4 series was ugly when it came out, the M3 and M4 looked good with the aggressive styling but this still looks awful
Aston Martin DB11. It is the Aston Martin with the least presence every made
McLaren 12C. They abandoned this design language so quickly that it makes this look like a kit car or an unbranded supercar you'd see on GTA V.
The new Jaguar F-Type. Looked nothingness when it came out and still does. The old one looked magnificent and still does.
I may take this one back, but Gen 1 BMW M2. They were stunning when they came out but the Comp looked so much better and the big lary aggressive successor has dilluted the Gen1 to the extent where it gets mistaken for a 240i
Edited by AlexNJ89 on Sunday 7th April 15:03
That just goes to show how personal it is because I don't agree with any of those - some started out ugly and still are; some started out fabulous and still are. None have aged particularly badly to my eyes.
If anything the exception for me would be the i8 which I thought looked overly fussy when it was first released but I think time has been very kind to the design.
If anything the exception for me would be the i8 which I thought looked overly fussy when it was first released but I think time has been very kind to the design.
Not to detract, from what is a very good car, but the MK1 MR2 aged terribly.
I think the problem was that it took lots of 80's style/ design cues and made them so prominent, it ended up in a time vacuum.
As a child in the very early 90's, I remember thinking they looked absolutely ancient, despite some of them only being 1-2 years old and the styling of the subsequent MK2 didn't help, with its swoopy lines.
30 years down the line though, they are very retro cool and unmistakably from their era.
I think the problem was that it took lots of 80's style/ design cues and made them so prominent, it ended up in a time vacuum.
As a child in the very early 90's, I remember thinking they looked absolutely ancient, despite some of them only being 1-2 years old and the styling of the subsequent MK2 didn't help, with its swoopy lines.
30 years down the line though, they are very retro cool and unmistakably from their era.
J4CKO said:
I think with Teslas, in part it’s a case of familiarity breeds contempt coupled with some anti EV bias. They have been around for a while and not changed much.
But, they are also a bit plain and samey, I don’t think they are a bad shape at all, the 3 and S anyway, but the 3 just lacks a bit of visual impact and so many are in white as mentioned, see one in a nice strong red or blue and it lifts it, the Model S is better looking but they have been flogging what is essentially the same design for what 13 years ?
Model X is just a big ugly lump really, the Y is a Model 3 with some swelling.
I think Range Rovers age badly, the minute the new one comes out, until such time as they pop out into classic, L405 still looks ok for now, 322 looks upright and gawky and the P38 which previously looked old and a bit tragic has become a bit of a classic, think they all just need a few years to mellow and the white bodykitted ones die off, RR Sport is similar, first ones look a bit provincial town doorman now but will mature and look good again.
But, they are also a bit plain and samey, I don’t think they are a bad shape at all, the 3 and S anyway, but the 3 just lacks a bit of visual impact and so many are in white as mentioned, see one in a nice strong red or blue and it lifts it, the Model S is better looking but they have been flogging what is essentially the same design for what 13 years ?
Model X is just a big ugly lump really, the Y is a Model 3 with some swelling.
I think Range Rovers age badly, the minute the new one comes out, until such time as they pop out into classic, L405 still looks ok for now, 322 looks upright and gawky and the P38 which previously looked old and a bit tragic has become a bit of a classic, think they all just need a few years to mellow and the white bodykitted ones die off, RR Sport is similar, first ones look a bit provincial town doorman now but will mature and look good again.
Great insight re: provincial club doorman. A colleague bought a top spec P38
green with tan leather. He described it as a pub landlord’s car. Mind you, the P38 did have big boots to fill.
MattsCar said:
Not to detract, from what is a very good car, but the MK1 MR2 aged terribly.
I think the problem was that it took lots of 80's style/ design cues and made them so prominent, it ended up in a time vacuum.
As a child in the very early 90's, I remember thinking they looked absolutely ancient, despite some of them only being 1-2 years old and the styling of the subsequent MK2 didn't help, with its swoopy lines.
30 years down the line though, they are very retro cool and unmistakably from their era.
White never does the MK1 any favours…they look far better in blue. Still the car I miss the most.I think the problem was that it took lots of 80's style/ design cues and made them so prominent, it ended up in a time vacuum.
As a child in the very early 90's, I remember thinking they looked absolutely ancient, despite some of them only being 1-2 years old and the styling of the subsequent MK2 didn't help, with its swoopy lines.
30 years down the line though, they are very retro cool and unmistakably from their era.
The much maligned Jaguar X-Type. Going for that baby X300 look never really worked. A rip-off of the X-300 styling wise, which although it was from that retro design era managed to look good by not really trying to be contemporary. Somehow, the X-Type just didn’t work. The estate was better, because it wasn’t trying to be a shrunken X-300.
The ones I see now just look tragic.
Staying on the Jaguar theme, the XJ40 just didn’t hit the mark for me at the time. The times I see one now, they actually look like a pretty crisp design that’s aged well.
The ones I see now just look tragic.
Staying on the Jaguar theme, the XJ40 just didn’t hit the mark for me at the time. The times I see one now, they actually look like a pretty crisp design that’s aged well.
Edited by Wildcat45 on Sunday 7th April 17:38
As much as I disagree with calling a DB7 a badly aged design (it's now looking its years for sure, but proportions are still good IMHO), and liking the MP4 12C better than almost everything what came afterwards from McLaren (think they outdid Ferrari on that one, a shame it was panned in the press considered soulless etc and it had its problems for sure) as it was a quite pure and unfussed design, I agree on the 430 and the i8, 4 series, new F type.
These are just bland and/or ugly.
But when Mercedes has a bad day, it's really bad.
Cars with an expiry date after approx 5 months:
Beyond tragic is the link to the F1 cars and that ugly MF
But then they got the ball rolling
Still don't get it...
These are just bland and/or ugly.
But when Mercedes has a bad day, it's really bad.
Cars with an expiry date after approx 5 months:
Beyond tragic is the link to the F1 cars and that ugly MF
But then they got the ball rolling
Still don't get it...
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