RE: Subaru Outback | Shed of the Week
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Wonder what the fix was for 'fixing' the rust issues?
These and Foresters of the same era are great, Outback more refined comfortable and quieter, Forester smaller overall but the boot is arguably more useable, Forester noisier to be in but very nimble.
Overall good to work on though cambelt isn't the easiest change, nor spark plugs.
These and Foresters of the same era are great, Outback more refined comfortable and quieter, Forester smaller overall but the boot is arguably more useable, Forester noisier to be in but very nimble.
Overall good to work on though cambelt isn't the easiest change, nor spark plugs.
Odd that some posters are suggesting that an XC70 handled better - we had an V70 at the same time as driving an Outback and the Subaru was in a different league. I liked the V70 but it was a wallowing shuddering understeering mess if you tried to carry much speed of a twisty back road. The Subaru meanwhile managed that trick of being both compliant and controlled and could carry speed effortlessly cross country.
Edited by Snow and Rocks on Sunday 19th May 08:35
Richard-vcdkn said:
I had a 2.5 turbo version when I lived in the US, great car, sounded awesome with a fruity exhaust.
https://youtu.be/yX4jA1u23DA
That does indeed sound raspily rorty !https://youtu.be/yX4jA1u23DA
honevo said:
I'm confused - ours was registered in April 2006 and the VED rate is £710 ...
Registered in April 2006 is the problem! Band L and Band M cars registered before 23 March 2006 paid the same Road Tax as Band K, so yours just missed out.
Anyway it looks very sensible and practical if you need something like that, but if not it doesn't look exciting in anyway so not exactly a SOTY contender IMHO.
Mr Tidy said:
honevo said:
I'm confused - ours was registered in April 2006 and the VED rate is £710 ...
Registered in April 2006 is the problem! Band L and Band M cars registered before 23 March 2006 paid the same Road Tax as Band K, so yours just missed out.
Anyway it looks very sensible and practical if you need something like that, but if not it doesn't look exciting in anyway so not exactly a SOTY contender IMHO.
They dont put salt on the roads, my JDM car is mint underneath.
NGK210 said:
Splendid. Yes, please.
But why are the Japs so crap at rustproofing?
Is it because all the budget gets spent on sturdy mechanical and electrical components – or is there another reason?
Meanwhile, PH homophobes look away now:
https://priceonomics.com/how-an-ad-campaign-made-l...
But why are the Japs so crap at rustproofing?
Is it because all the budget gets spent on sturdy mechanical and electrical components – or is there another reason?
Meanwhile, PH homophobes look away now:
https://priceonomics.com/how-an-ad-campaign-made-l...
Once you have owned a Subaru, you get it, an Outback just does what it needs to do, and what the owner needs it to.
Good honest car.
I am just back from deepest Somerset and saw loads of old and new Outbacks, its what old money or wealth buy down there. Not a Faux by 4 in sight.
Good honest car.
I am just back from deepest Somerset and saw loads of old and new Outbacks, its what old money or wealth buy down there. Not a Faux by 4 in sight.
sinisterpenguin said:
Never understood peoples fascination with these thing but 5 stars for this week’s innuendo
Snow and Rocks said:
Odd that some posters are suggesting that an XC70 handled better - we had an V70 at the same time as driving an Outback and the Subaru was in a different league. I liked the V70 but it was a wallowing shuddering understeering mess if you tried to carry much speed of a twisty back road. The Subaru meanwhile managed that trick of being both compliant and controlled and could carry speed effortlessly cross country.
perhaps the year? We went from an 07 outback to a 13 XC70 and so much better.Edited by Snow and Rocks on Sunday 19th May 08:35
sledge68 said:
They dont put salt on the roads, my JDM car is mint underneath.
This is a fallacy, as far as i'm aware according to friends who live over there they do in fact salt their roads in certain parts - buyer beware...NGK210 said:
Splendid. Yes, please.
But why are the Japs so crap at rustproofing?
Is it because all the budget gets spent on sturdy mechanical and electrical components – or is there another reason?
Meanwhile, PH homophobes look away now:
https://priceonomics.com/how-an-ad-campaign-made-l...
But why are the Japs so crap at rustproofing?
Is it because all the budget gets spent on sturdy mechanical and electrical components – or is there another reason?
Meanwhile, PH homophobes look away now:
https://priceonomics.com/how-an-ad-campaign-made-l...
I am completely biased, being on my 3rd Legacy, so my observations may be a little rose tinted, but:
I’m not convinced by all the rust scaremongering. I don’t think Subarus are any worse than contemporary Mercedes and BMWs of the era – think of all the horror stories about noughties Mercs and BMW 3 series. Think about where the car you’re buying has lived. My current 2007 Legacy spec B has spent most of its life in rural Suffolk, away from the coast. It’s done 190,000 and is still solid underneath. If the car’s been based in Scotland and spent its life pounding heavily salted roads, it’s bound to have rust issues by now – most cars would.
Maintenance is easy and cheap if you like a bit of spannering. They’re simple, well-engineered cars and most of the servicing items are easy to access. I even changed the spark plugs myself the other day. Fiddly and took a while but not the impossible task some would have you believe. After-market exhausts are readily available now too so sorting out the usual rotten ‘Y’ joint isn’t the headache it used to be.
Fuel consumption is heavy. I got around 30mpg for my 2.0 GL Classic (mk 2, sold at 240,000 miles), 32 mpg average for my 2.5 SE (mk 4, again sold at 240,000 miles) and get around 27mpg for my current 3.0r. VED is a b*stard too, at over £700 p.a. but I just do it monthly and don’t think about it.
They’re lovely to drive; far better than any contemporary Volvo estate, although they won’t feel as heavy and solid as an old Volvo.
It’s a cliché but they get under your skin and are difficult to replace. Just the right size for a family of four. Relatively narrow so ideal for rural roads. Surefooted in adverse weather conditions; I use winter tyres December to March, so it stops on icy roads as well as it goes! A fabulous car for driving to the Alps for skiing, although I do admit a nice big diesel would use rather less fuel doing so…
I’m not convinced by all the rust scaremongering. I don’t think Subarus are any worse than contemporary Mercedes and BMWs of the era – think of all the horror stories about noughties Mercs and BMW 3 series. Think about where the car you’re buying has lived. My current 2007 Legacy spec B has spent most of its life in rural Suffolk, away from the coast. It’s done 190,000 and is still solid underneath. If the car’s been based in Scotland and spent its life pounding heavily salted roads, it’s bound to have rust issues by now – most cars would.
Maintenance is easy and cheap if you like a bit of spannering. They’re simple, well-engineered cars and most of the servicing items are easy to access. I even changed the spark plugs myself the other day. Fiddly and took a while but not the impossible task some would have you believe. After-market exhausts are readily available now too so sorting out the usual rotten ‘Y’ joint isn’t the headache it used to be.
Fuel consumption is heavy. I got around 30mpg for my 2.0 GL Classic (mk 2, sold at 240,000 miles), 32 mpg average for my 2.5 SE (mk 4, again sold at 240,000 miles) and get around 27mpg for my current 3.0r. VED is a b*stard too, at over £700 p.a. but I just do it monthly and don’t think about it.
They’re lovely to drive; far better than any contemporary Volvo estate, although they won’t feel as heavy and solid as an old Volvo.
It’s a cliché but they get under your skin and are difficult to replace. Just the right size for a family of four. Relatively narrow so ideal for rural roads. Surefooted in adverse weather conditions; I use winter tyres December to March, so it stops on icy roads as well as it goes! A fabulous car for driving to the Alps for skiing, although I do admit a nice big diesel would use rather less fuel doing so…
Certain parts , exactly, not everywhere, every JDM car i have bought direct from Japan has been like new underneath, from my first Legacy that was a 1997 car which i got in 2008, with 33k miles on and it still had all the gold patina on the nuts and bolts underneath. I have had 10 now and everyone has been like new underneath.
CKY said:
This is a fallacy, as far as i'm aware according to friends who live over there they do in fact salt their roads in certain parts - buyer beware...
Indeed, i've seen under JDM Prados before which you would expect to have seen the worse weather conditions that Japan could throw at them, yet the undersides at 12 years better than one would find on a UK vehicle after one winter, Toyota not alone in this i carried many barely used Shoguns too in my previous work and the rust starting underneath was really disappointing.
CKY said:
This is a fallacy, as far as i'm aware according to friends who live over there they do in fact salt their roads in certain parts - buyer beware...
Aye, I went to the north island (Sapparo) years ago & there were loads of cars with crusty arches & sills, it's only in Tokyo & further south where it stays mild & thus the roads don't get salted.
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