'voluntary' roadside eye sight tests?

[martinbiz]

Evanivitch said:

martinbiz said:

Evanivitch said:

martinbiz said:

Sorry chap that's wrong as well, have you ever seen an INS Co specically ask if you need to wear glasses

Why would they? It doesn't affect your premium. Do they ask if you have an MOT too?

Don't be silly, why would you think that is that even vaguely the same thing, plus you also suggested that not telling them could land you in hot water in the event of an accident which is utter rubbish

If you need to wear eyesight correction and you're found not to be wearing correction you'll be in very hot water, with insurance and legally.

Insurance requires the vehicle and the person to be fit to drive. That's fundamental to all car insurance. Everything else is associated risk.

Well of course you do, but that's nothing to do with the post, normal PH let's go off on a tangent

[JimbobVFR]

Mr Pointy said:

OK, post a link to the DVLA website where it says you need a "special code" on your licence if you are short sighted & need glasses. None of the millions of myopic drivers in this country have a "special code" on their licence.

I do



The code 01 next to all the categories is the code in question.

[martinbiz]

JimbobVFR said:

I do



The code 01 next to all the categories is the code in question.

Yes you will have that code if they have been given the information at some time, but again there is no requirement to give that information

[Monkeylegend]

Anyway back to the voluntary test, I have had my eyes tested and new prescription spectacles recently and I could do that roadside test with my eyes shut.

[ScotHill]

Monkeylegend said:

Anyway back to the voluntary test, I have had my eyes tested and new prescription spectacles recently and I could do that roadside test with my eyes shut.

Just to clear up any confusion, they don't ask you to read your own number plate.

[BertBert]

I wonder what happens if you refuse voluntary eyesight screening? Is it like refusing to attend a police voluntary interview?

[Monkeylegend]

ScotHill said:

Monkeylegend said:

Anyway back to the voluntary test, I have had my eyes tested and new prescription spectacles recently and I could do that roadside test with my eyes shut.

Just to clear up any confusion, they don't ask you to read your own number plate.

It's a good job they don't because I always have to think about that.

[Nibbles_bits]

kambites said:

Giantt said:

The DVLA must also be notified of any eyesight conditions.

Is this bit true? Do you have to tell the DVLA if you need to wear glasses for driving?

Sounds like a good idea, but anyone who knows they are marginal will presumably refuse to take the test if it's really voluntary! Feels like it would be more effective if there was also an amnesty in place.

They'll only be able to do that if it is voluntary. If they refuse that "might" lead the Officer to suspect that their eyesight is below the vision test requirement and may then require them to take the test.

[sospan]

Last year my son’s mate’s dad was knocked down on a crossing by a driver who had their licence revoked due to vision impairment reported to DVLA. She had continued to drive after previously being caught a couple of times yet ignored the warnings. She continued to drive after hitting the pedestrian. Ignoring the revoked decision and was banned from driving but I don’t remember any other penalties.
The pedestrian is still suffering problems after the collision.
I wear glasses for reading but have moved to vari-focals as my sight has deteriorated slightly. I now tend to wear glasses more, including driving. I can see long distance easily without them but the nearer area vision is slowly deteriorating.
Voluntary roadside test? No problem. Peoples driving standards can be bad enough without adding poor vision as an extra!

[sospan]

Last year my son’s mate’s dad was knocked down on a crossing by a driver who had their licence revoked due to vision impairment reported to DVLA. She had continued to drive after previously being caught a couple of times yet ignored the warnings. She continued to drive after hitting the pedestrian. Ignoring the revoked decision and was banned from driving but I don’t remember any other penalties.
The pedestrian is still suffering problems after the collision.
I wear glasses for reading but have moved to vari-focals as my sight has deteriorated slightly. I now tend to wear glasses more, including driving. I can see long distance easily without them but the nearer area vision is slowly deteriorating.
Voluntary roadside test? No problem. Peoples driving standards can be bad enough without adding poor vision as an extra!

[Evanivitch]

sospan said:

Last year my son’s mate’s dad was knocked down on a crossing by a driver who had their licence revoked due to vision impairment reported to DVLA. She had continued to drive after previously being caught a couple of times yet ignored the warnings. She continued to drive after hitting the pedestrian. Ignoring the revoked decision and was banned from driving but I don’t remember any other penalties.
The pedestrian is still suffering problems after the collision.
I wear glasses for reading but have moved to vari-focals as my sight has deteriorated slightly. I now tend to wear glasses more, including driving. I can see long distance easily without them but the nearer area vision is slowly deteriorating.
Voluntary roadside test? No problem. Peoples driving standards can be bad enough without adding poor vision as an extra!

Station Road? She was saved from prison "for the sake of her children".

[Sebring440]

Giantt said:

Cleveland Police Matrix Team officers will be conducting random roadside vision screening in the area over the coming weeks, as they raise awareness of the importance of meeting the legally required standard of eyesight for drivers.

Those drivers who fail to meet the required standards are not only breaking the law, but putting themselves and other road users at risk.

Drivers will be asked to take part in voluntary roadside screening, where they will need to read a number plate from a distance of 20 metres; in daylight conditions, using a registration plate affixed to a vehicle at the correct measured distance, and wearing any eyesight correction (for example, spectacles) worn at the time of driving.

Under legislation known as Cassie’s Law, drivers who fail a roadside number plate test could have their licence revoked on the spot if a police officer deems them to be unsafe on the road. Other penalties include a possible fine or points endorsed on a licence.

The DVLA must also be notified of any eyesight conditions.

For more details on the legal eyesight conditions for all motorists, please visit: https://www.gov.uk/driving-eyesight-rules

Rather than just cutting & pasting the above text from the Cleveland Police web site, you could have offered your own opinion?

[cptsideways]

Family friend is an area manager for Specsavers they reckon about a third of drivers can't see roadsigns

[Pica-Pica]

cptsideways said:

Family friend is an area manager for Specsavers they reckon about a third of drivers can't see roadsigns

Another third don’t look for them.

[Whataguy]

Mr Pointy said:

Whataguy said:

kambites said:

Is this bit true? Do you have to tell the DVLA if you need to wear glasses for driving?

Yes, your driving licence has a special code for vehicle types to say that you have to wear glasses when driving if you need to wear them.

OK, post a link to the DVLA website where it says you need a "special code" on your licence if you are short sighted & need glasses. None of the millions of myopic drivers in this country have a "special code" on their licence.

I do, code 01 on the back of my driving licence for all vehicle groups - means I must wear glasses when driving any of those vehicle groups.

Interesting question, the basic roadside test says you have to be able to read a number plate in good daylight with glasses - what if you are wearing sunglasses or it’s a dull day? Can you refuse the latest on the basis the requirements for testing aren’t met?

My optician has a car number plate at the correct size on their eye test screen. Can you get referred to them for a real test in correct conditions instead?

Edited by Whataguy on Wednesday 8th May 08:29

Edited by Whataguy on Wednesday 8th May 08:30

[Giantt]

Sebring440 said:

Giantt said:

Cleveland Police Matrix Team officers will be conducting random roadside vision screening in the area over the coming weeks, as they raise awareness of the importance of meeting the legally required standard of eyesight for drivers.

Those drivers who fail to meet the required standards are not only breaking the law, but putting themselves and other road users at risk.

Drivers will be asked to take part in voluntary roadside screening, where they will need to read a number plate from a distance of 20 metres; in daylight conditions, using a registration plate affixed to a vehicle at the correct measured distance, and wearing any eyesight correction (for example, spectacles) worn at the time of driving.

Under legislation known as Cassie’s Law, drivers who fail a roadside number plate test could have their licence revoked on the spot if a police officer deems them to be unsafe on the road. Other penalties include a possible fine or points endorsed on a licence.

The DVLA must also be notified of any eyesight conditions.

For more details on the legal eyesight conditions for all motorists, please visit: https://www.gov.uk/driving-eyesight-rules

Rather than just cutting & pasting the above text from the Cleveland Police web site, you could have offered your own opinion?

I didn't get it off the police website, though you are correct in the cut/ paste bit,why do I need to give an opinion,was posting this as information

[Sebring440]

Giantt said:

why do I need to give an opinion,

Because it's a discussion forum?

You must have an opinion, or would wouldn't have picked up on it and started the discussion.

So, what is your opinion then?

[martinbiz]

Sebring440 said:

Giantt said:

why do I need to give an opinion,

Because it's a discussion forum?

You must have an opinion, or would wouldn't have picked up on it and started the discussion.

So, what is your opinion then?

What a strange comment, some just post information they think may be useful

[rlw]

Pica-Pica said:

I think the roadside eyesight test is a very crude test, and is a bit single criteria based. It makes no cognisance of perception, judgement of position and speed, or of anticipation.

Does that mean you can perceive the presence of a pedestrian in the road even though you can't see them because you have st eyesight.

And, seriously, WTF does judgement of position and speed have to do with being blind as a bat. And if you can't see clearly, how can you anticipate properly?

The eyesight test is very basic but vision is the foundation of all the things you mention, which all rely upon your being able to make judgements based on what you can see.

[GasEngineer]

Mr Pointy said:

OK, post a link to the DVLA website where it says you need a "special code" on your licence if you are short sighted & need glasses. None of the millions of myopic drivers in this country have a "special code" on their licence.

You've been proved wrong with your challenge. Time to eat humble pie !