Mr Bates vs The Post Office
Discussion
mikeiow said:
LimmerickLad said:
IMO - "(2) in-house ability to prosecute - losing the necessary objectivity" was a major factor above all, as they just felt they had all the power...and at that time in fact, they did!
AFAIK, they somehow still have that power.Not sure I have seen it stripped?
Clearly they should NO LONGER have that power, and indeed I hope and pray that the Police take action against those who have so clearly shown themselves to have been complicit in ruining so many lives.
I still feel there might only be one scapegoat, which makes me fume: it is one thing to suggest that it is a culture issue, or that they were only assuming people above knew and did the right thing, but so many SPMs (& their families) lives were utterly ruined by the actions of so many individuals, they really do need holding to account: in many cases it feels that jail is too good for them: SPMs have died or taken their own lives over this.
Edited by simonrockman on Tuesday 7th May 20:24
Stussy said:
She was a total waste of time today, just making up random nonsense sentences as she went along, pauses between every word as she tried to concoct something believable
Yep, noticed the pauses did get quite long at times as she carefully thought of how to phrase the least incriminating reply. Seemed to get an easier ride than if Mr Beer was doing the questioning! The lady who questioned her in the afternoon was more aggressive which made things a bit more interesting and seemed to shock her a bit! 
Stussy said:
She was a total waste of time today, just making up random nonsense sentences as she went along, pauses between every word as she tried to concoct something believable
Indeed, another professional who hasn't got a bloody clue, yeh right.Speak slowly, annunciate, don't miss any T's and don't know anything, not even what your directed role is.
Stupid idiot doesn't even know her own CV.
eliot said:
seems to have done a Jarnail - “I was just a postbox - I didn’t read anything”
Are all these ex-pol employees getting legal support from the post office? Does that mean more taxpayer money spent defending the indefensible?
Officers will be insured - part of the discussion yesterday - will probably cover issues that arose whilst they were employed?Are all these ex-pol employees getting legal support from the post office? Does that mean more taxpayer money spent defending the indefensible?
BA has the 'Selective Memory' gene that seems to have afflicted a lot of the POL people and their advisors! Sir Wynn did ask for a bit of clarification on that earlier. This guy seems to be squirming a bit now.
BA "I can't recall....."
Mr Beer "Let me help you with that" and produces the transcript of a call!
And we're back to that call again!
It's a real shame I don't like popcorn!
BA "I can't recall....."
Mr Beer "Let me help you with that" and produces the transcript of a call!
And we're back to that call again!
It's a real shame I don't like popcorn!
It's such a shame Mr Altman didn't apply his huge legal expertise to what was happening under his nose and become whistle blower, could have saved a lot of suffering & grief for many.
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Testimonials - https://www.2bedfordrow.co.uk/barrister/brian-altm...
"Over the years Brian has consistently been acknowledged to be ‘a leader in his field’ by both Chambers & Partners and the Legal 500. In 2007, Brian was nominated by Chambers & Partners as ‘Crime Junior of the Year’ and in 2011 as ‘Crime Silk of the Year’. In 2013, he was nominated by Legal 500 as ‘Crime Silk of the Year’ and in 2022 as ‘Public Inquiries Silk of the Year’. Brian was also selected by Lawyer Monthly as winner of the 2015 ‘White Collar Crime Barrister of the Year – UK’.
The Times has named Brian in its Law 100 list as one of the country’s 100 most influential lawyers. He was also listed by The London Evening Standard in the law section of the list of London’s 1000 most influential people for 2011, and in 2012 he was named by The London Evening Standard as one of London’s top three ‘Golden Legal Eagles’ in crime."
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