Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12
Discussion
The Wings comments section is always a good source of light hearted joviality on an otherwise dreary Monday morning.
"Our cousins in Ireland" can only refer to that famously peaceful period of 1913-22, which was notable for zero violence, no civil unrest or rise of paramilitary forces, and also for the 80 years of abundant prosperity Eire enjoyed once free of the oppressive British shackles. Oh no wait - the exact opposite happened. I find it sadly ironic that those who detest the partition of Ireland are also forcefully calling for the partition of Great Britain, with likely the same catastrophic consequences. Scotland would become a bankrupt backwater with mass emigration of anyone who could afford to, exodus of capital and businesses, families split by politics, and anyone remaining with the 'wrong' opinions vilified and victimised.
Lorna Campbell said:
...no, it is not gone for a generation or ten years, or whatever. As the SNP’s star wanes so does the independence movement’s wax. Whatever happens now will not be that which the SNP and Unionists think it will be. We are now entering unknown territory, just as our cousins in Ireland did. It will be up to us to use our wits to avoid a tumble into chaos and physical confrontation, and the likes of SALVO/Liberation and others are working hard behind the scenes to ensure that we do not have to go down this path. They have the evidence that we need to prove that the Union is a one-sided farce that is illegal in international law. Several independent candidates are standing in the GE. Give them your support and we might get a big enough pro independence contingent into Westminster to take us out of the Union within weeks, through the international community.
They are imagining some kind of quiet, peaceful revolution, where the international community simply agree & award Scotland independence, Westminster cheerfully consents, and everyone is thereafter bountifully furnished with honey and peacocks in our new land of endless wealth and plenty. "Our cousins in Ireland" can only refer to that famously peaceful period of 1913-22, which was notable for zero violence, no civil unrest or rise of paramilitary forces, and also for the 80 years of abundant prosperity Eire enjoyed once free of the oppressive British shackles. Oh no wait - the exact opposite happened. I find it sadly ironic that those who detest the partition of Ireland are also forcefully calling for the partition of Great Britain, with likely the same catastrophic consequences. Scotland would become a bankrupt backwater with mass emigration of anyone who could afford to, exodus of capital and businesses, families split by politics, and anyone remaining with the 'wrong' opinions vilified and victimised.
Roderick Spode said:
The Wings comments section is always a good source of light hearted joviality on an otherwise dreary Monday morning.
I’m no great supporter of Wings. I do enjoy his articles and whilst he clearly has an agenda and an axe to grind he does more research on his writings than most so called “proper” journalists. However, I wish he’d shut the comments section down. It’s just a placeholder for nuts, headbangers, conspiracy theorists, cranks, weirdo’s, and loons.
Roderick Spode said:
The Wings comments section is always a good source of light hearted joviality on an otherwise dreary Monday morning.
"Our cousins in Ireland" can only refer to that famously peaceful period of 1913-22, which was notable for zero violence, no civil unrest or rise of paramilitary forces, and also for the 80 years of abundant prosperity Eire enjoyed once free of the oppressive British shackles. Oh no wait - the exact opposite happened. I find it sadly ironic that those who detest the partition of Ireland are also forcefully calling for the partition of Great Britain, with likely the same catastrophic consequences. Scotland would become a bankrupt backwater with mass emigration of anyone who could afford to, exodus of capital and businesses, families split by politics, and anyone remaining with the 'wrong' opinions vilified and victimised.
If there is not a proper democratic indy vote. Which I doubt will ever happen again. Lorna Campbell said:
...no, it is not gone for a generation or ten years, or whatever. As the SNP’s star wanes so does the independence movement’s wax. Whatever happens now will not be that which the SNP and Unionists think it will be. We are now entering unknown territory, just as our cousins in Ireland did. It will be up to us to use our wits to avoid a tumble into chaos and physical confrontation, and the likes of SALVO/Liberation and others are working hard behind the scenes to ensure that we do not have to go down this path. They have the evidence that we need to prove that the Union is a one-sided farce that is illegal in international law. Several independent candidates are standing in the GE. Give them your support and we might get a big enough pro independence contingent into Westminster to take us out of the Union within weeks, through the international community.
They are imagining some kind of quiet, peaceful revolution, where the international community simply agree & award Scotland independence, Westminster cheerfully consents, and everyone is thereafter bountifully furnished with honey and peacocks in our new land of endless wealth and plenty. "Our cousins in Ireland" can only refer to that famously peaceful period of 1913-22, which was notable for zero violence, no civil unrest or rise of paramilitary forces, and also for the 80 years of abundant prosperity Eire enjoyed once free of the oppressive British shackles. Oh no wait - the exact opposite happened. I find it sadly ironic that those who detest the partition of Ireland are also forcefully calling for the partition of Great Britain, with likely the same catastrophic consequences. Scotland would become a bankrupt backwater with mass emigration of anyone who could afford to, exodus of capital and businesses, families split by politics, and anyone remaining with the 'wrong' opinions vilified and victimised.
I reckon the Redcoats could retake Scotland quite quickly and round up the insurectionists in a timely manner.
They learned alot about gurrilla warfare from the last few wars in the middle east.
This here is my very best genuinely shocked face. Shocked I tell you - continuity John elected unopposed. I am bereft with surprise.
Our only hope now of not having this potato as First Minister would be rebellions or abstentions from within the SNP or Greens - however, that's vanishingly unlikely. Everyone is too happy hoovering up MSP salaries and expenses to want an early election. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Labour & Lib Dems voting for Honest John as well - the Sturgeonite's Sturgeonite. Good old speedbump John takes another kicking for the team.
BBC News said:
John Swinney has moved a step closer to becoming Scotland's seventh first minister after being confirmed as SNP leader.
A contest was avoided after a veteran SNP activist withdrew a rival bid following talks with Mr Swinney.
The former deputy first minister is expected to be nominated by MSPs as first minister as early as Tuesday.
Current first minister Humza Yousaf - who announced his resignation last week - said he would formally quit once a new SNP leader was confirmed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c72pk2qpqevoA contest was avoided after a veteran SNP activist withdrew a rival bid following talks with Mr Swinney.
The former deputy first minister is expected to be nominated by MSPs as first minister as early as Tuesday.
Current first minister Humza Yousaf - who announced his resignation last week - said he would formally quit once a new SNP leader was confirmed.
Our only hope now of not having this potato as First Minister would be rebellions or abstentions from within the SNP or Greens - however, that's vanishingly unlikely. Everyone is too happy hoovering up MSP salaries and expenses to want an early election. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Labour & Lib Dems voting for Honest John as well - the Sturgeonite's Sturgeonite. Good old speedbump John takes another kicking for the team.
renmure said:
I’m no great supporter of Wings. I do enjoy his articles and whilst he clearly has an agenda and an axe to grind he does more research on his writings than most so called “proper” journalists.
However, I wish he’d shut the comments section down. It’s just a placeholder for nuts, headbangers, conspiracy theorists, cranks, weirdo’s, and loons.
On the other hand if you couldn't read it for yourself you wouldn't believe tinfoil loons like that existed.However, I wish he’d shut the comments section down. It’s just a placeholder for nuts, headbangers, conspiracy theorists, cranks, weirdo’s, and loons.
Well you have to hand it to them, the SNP have nominated another belter.
Old Swindley taking pelters over on Twitter/X. Scotland is a laughing stock under these cretins.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Dishonest%20John%2...
Old Swindley taking pelters over on Twitter/X. Scotland is a laughing stock under these cretins.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Dishonest%20John%2...
sherman said:
Roderick Spode said:
The Wings comments section is always a good source of light hearted joviality on an otherwise dreary Monday morning.
"Our cousins in Ireland" can only refer to that famously peaceful period of 1913-22, which was notable for zero violence, no civil unrest or rise of paramilitary forces, and also for the 80 years of abundant prosperity Eire enjoyed once free of the oppressive British shackles. Oh no wait - the exact opposite happened. I find it sadly ironic that those who detest the partition of Ireland are also forcefully calling for the partition of Great Britain, with likely the same catastrophic consequences. Scotland would become a bankrupt backwater with mass emigration of anyone who could afford to, exodus of capital and businesses, families split by politics, and anyone remaining with the 'wrong' opinions vilified and victimised.
If there is not a proper democratic indy vote. Which I doubt will ever happen again. Lorna Campbell said:
...no, it is not gone for a generation or ten years, or whatever. As the SNP’s star wanes so does the independence movement’s wax. Whatever happens now will not be that which the SNP and Unionists think it will be. We are now entering unknown territory, just as our cousins in Ireland did. It will be up to us to use our wits to avoid a tumble into chaos and physical confrontation, and the likes of SALVO/Liberation and others are working hard behind the scenes to ensure that we do not have to go down this path. They have the evidence that we need to prove that the Union is a one-sided farce that is illegal in international law. Several independent candidates are standing in the GE. Give them your support and we might get a big enough pro independence contingent into Westminster to take us out of the Union within weeks, through the international community.
They are imagining some kind of quiet, peaceful revolution, where the international community simply agree & award Scotland independence, Westminster cheerfully consents, and everyone is thereafter bountifully furnished with honey and peacocks in our new land of endless wealth and plenty. "Our cousins in Ireland" can only refer to that famously peaceful period of 1913-22, which was notable for zero violence, no civil unrest or rise of paramilitary forces, and also for the 80 years of abundant prosperity Eire enjoyed once free of the oppressive British shackles. Oh no wait - the exact opposite happened. I find it sadly ironic that those who detest the partition of Ireland are also forcefully calling for the partition of Great Britain, with likely the same catastrophic consequences. Scotland would become a bankrupt backwater with mass emigration of anyone who could afford to, exodus of capital and businesses, families split by politics, and anyone remaining with the 'wrong' opinions vilified and victimised.
I reckon the Redcoats could retake Scotland quite quickly and round up the insurectionists in a timely manner.
They learned alot about gurrilla warfare from the last few wars in the middle east.
Ecosseven said:
If the SNP really wanted independence then they would focus their efforts on competent government
In related news, they have just appointed John Swinney as their new leader, and by good grace the next First Minister 
The SNP and competent governance are not happy bedfellows.
Roderick Spode said:
The Wings comments section is always a good source of light hearted joviality on an otherwise dreary Monday morning.
"Our cousins in Ireland" can only refer to that famously peaceful period of 1913-22, which was notable for zero violence, no civil unrest or rise of paramilitary forces, and also for the 80 years of abundant prosperity Eire enjoyed once free of the oppressive British shackles. Oh no wait - the exact opposite happened. I find it sadly ironic that those who detest the partition of Ireland are also forcefully calling for the partition of Great Britain, with likely the same catastrophic consequences. Scotland would become a bankrupt backwater with mass emigration of anyone who could afford to, exodus of capital and businesses, families split by politics, and anyone remaining with the 'wrong' opinions vilified and victimised.
Vilified and victimised? Like being called flag shaggers, face painted morons, haggis chasers or whatever? Like that? Irony and a lack of self awareness seem to make such good bedfellows Rod... Lorna Campbell said:
...no, it is not gone for a generation or ten years, or whatever. As the SNP’s star wanes so does the independence movement’s wax. Whatever happens now will not be that which the SNP and Unionists think it will be. We are now entering unknown territory, just as our cousins in Ireland did. It will be up to us to use our wits to avoid a tumble into chaos and physical confrontation, and the likes of SALVO/Liberation and others are working hard behind the scenes to ensure that we do not have to go down this path. They have the evidence that we need to prove that the Union is a one-sided farce that is illegal in international law. Several independent candidates are standing in the GE. Give them your support and we might get a big enough pro independence contingent into Westminster to take us out of the Union within weeks, through the international community.
They are imagining some kind of quiet, peaceful revolution, where the international community simply agree & award Scotland independence, Westminster cheerfully consents, and everyone is thereafter bountifully furnished with honey and peacocks in our new land of endless wealth and plenty. "Our cousins in Ireland" can only refer to that famously peaceful period of 1913-22, which was notable for zero violence, no civil unrest or rise of paramilitary forces, and also for the 80 years of abundant prosperity Eire enjoyed once free of the oppressive British shackles. Oh no wait - the exact opposite happened. I find it sadly ironic that those who detest the partition of Ireland are also forcefully calling for the partition of Great Britain, with likely the same catastrophic consequences. Scotland would become a bankrupt backwater with mass emigration of anyone who could afford to, exodus of capital and businesses, families split by politics, and anyone remaining with the 'wrong' opinions vilified and victimised.
Take care all, recovering from hangover, thankfully its a holiday Monday so that's par for the course. X
sherman said:
If there is not a proper democratic indy vote. Which I doubt will ever happen again.
I reckon the Redcoats could retake Scotland quite quickly and round up the insurectionists in a timely manner.
They learned alot about gurrilla warfare from the last few wars in the middle east.
During the 2014 referendum I mentioned to a mate if Scotland voted YES then how long would it have taken England to roll the tanks over the border and reclaim Scotland for the UK...fantasy yes but could you imagine if it happened.I reckon the Redcoats could retake Scotland quite quickly and round up the insurectionists in a timely manner.
They learned alot about gurrilla warfare from the last few wars in the middle east.
hidetheelephants said:
Blue woad mentalists who want to make everyone's life a misery because they 'have a dream'.
They honestly think it would be better under independence, they’re just deluded in how they think it would work, or how Scotland would get there, or how different it would be from what Scotland is now.Klippie said:
sherman said:
If there is not a proper democratic indy vote. Which I doubt will ever happen again.
I reckon the Redcoats could retake Scotland quite quickly and round up the insurectionists in a timely manner.
They learned alot about gurrilla warfare from the last few wars in the middle east.
During the 2014 referendum I mentioned to a mate if Scotland voted YES then how long would it have taken England to roll the tanks over the border and reclaim Scotland for the UK...fantasy yes but could you imagine if it happened.I reckon the Redcoats could retake Scotland quite quickly and round up the insurectionists in a timely manner.
They learned alot about gurrilla warfare from the last few wars in the middle east.
NoddyonNitrous said:
What's going to be Honest John's first crisis? The gardeners kick off about something gender / alphabet related? Operation Branchform collars another? Some islands lose all their transport connections? A byelection loss?
The greens show some sort of principles and don't back him for FM.Could actually gain them some credibility but they are so f
king thick they won't realise. NoddyonNitrous said:
What's going to be Honest John's first crisis? The gardeners kick off about something gender / alphabet related?
FTFY.As I've mentioned many many times now, the Scottish "Greens" have been disavowed as an environmentalist organisation by the UK and International accord of Green political parties.
It uses the name under false pretences, but nothing can be done about it because it isn't exactly a copyrightable term.
The party leaders operate a blatant lie to garner support and anyone voting for them is a dupe.
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