"It's not against the law to be angry"

[oyster]

Superflow said:

GT9 said:

Superflow said:

I’m not blaming anyone.

She started the incident because her ego couldn’t let it go for what a few seconds.

Have this happen daily to me I never react you have to let it go.

She drew first blood.

Only last month we had a poster defending a man jailed for verbally abusing their female neighbour and throwing stones at them.

That poster went on to say that the judge was out of their depth.

That poster was you.

Are you moulding into some sort of 'defender of twunts'?

No merely reading between the lines as the truth is often found there.

Unfortunately the legal system doesn’t have that insight or privilege which means computer says no justice prevails in some cases.

What’s most gratifying is having my assumption that misogynists are thick, being confirmed by their behaviour.

You’ve done just that. Thank you.

[paulguitar]

okgo said:

CraigyMc said:

People new to PH should be shown this thread just so they understand how weird some of the posters on here are.

The funny thing is, almost without fail, they are completely identikit, hate women, hate foreigners, apologists for men’s awful behaviour - it’s like a ‘dhead starter pack’ they all have.

There’s quite a few I look out for now, the above added to the list.

It's been an eye-opener, this thread. It demonstrates that there are some people out there who are genuinely unhinged. There have been a few comments that could genuinely pass for parody.

[xx99xx]

ATG said:

xx99xx said:

Firstly, the Abbott guy is a tool for reacting like that.

However, my opinion of what I think happened is (given the location and circumstances):

Lady pulls out of petrol station, probably doing 5-10mph.

Bloke pulls out in front of her thinking he has loads of time to get out of her way. Clearly she could brake and avoid a crash by slowing a little (which she did) but she felt annoyed that that she had to brake for him. Happens all the time.

She flashes and beeps in the safety of her car, thinking nothing will happen but I'll tell him he's in the wrong. Even though it wasn't even a dangerous near miss. I'm inclined to believe that she probably did give hand gestures and sat on the horn/lights. She apparently runs a TV production company so will be used to getting her own way, telling people what to do etc.

He overreacts and goes mental.

So in my view, bloke gets what he deserves but lady probably provoked him, not that it's an excuse. Both need to learn some self control and patience.

How can you possibly believe you know more about the incident than the judge??

I don't, and didn't say I did. Judge has made an decision based on much more info than is available to me and it's the correct opinion/decision. I've made an opinion based on the info I do have (and the attitude I see regularly from middle aged female drivers). It's just my opinion caveated with 'i think'. I'm not quoting facts.

Yes it's judgemental and I'm not defending Abbott in any way. But opinions are the basis of discussion forums.

[Electronicpants]

What I don't understand is that in just about every country I visit, pamping the horn, a small bit of gesturing as your cut up, etc, is perfectly acceptable, if not mandatory, Europe, the US, Asia. But if you even make eye contact with someone in the UK never mind have the audacity to use your horn then it's not entirely unexpected to have someone come out their car and completely lose the rag at you to the point of losing control of themselves.

As for the few on here that think she was "goading him"! I mean you could have someone in Italy, pamping solidly for 5 mins while shouting out the window and the guy in front is happily listening to the latest Julio Iglesias not giving a toss, but if that happened in the UK you'd have 1/2 the gammons getting out to help the guy threaten to garrot her, and a couple wanting to go further. WTF, chill.

[272BHP]

What a plonker.

However people who whip out a phone and escalate situations like this should get a stern telling off from the judge as well. Once a phone is stuck in someones face any chance of normal human interaction or opportunity to calm the situation has gone.

[oyster]

272BHP said:

What a plonker.

However people who whip out a phone and escalate situations like this should get a stern telling off from the judge as well. Once a phone is stuck in someones face any chance of normal human interaction or opportunity to calm the situation has gone.

If I was being a fool, finding out I was being filmed would make me stop.

But then I’m not unhinged.

[vaud]

272BHP said:

What a plonker.

However people who whip out a phone and escalate situations like this should get a stern telling off from the judge as well. Once a phone is stuck in someones face any chance of normal human interaction or opportunity to calm the situation has gone.

A person being berated in the car in fear of being attacked is not "sticking a phone in someones face".

It may exacerbate the situation for some, for others they may walk away.

[eharding]

272BHP said:

What a plonker.

However people who whip out a phone and escalate situations like this should get a stern telling off from the judge as well. Once a phone is stuck in someones face any chance of normal human interaction or opportunity to calm the situation has gone.

So if this bloke was dealing with a copper with a body-worn video camera and was filmed kicking off then the judge should give the Dibble a stern telling off as well?

[okgo]

The “what a plonker” was only said so he could say what he really wanted to. Victim blame.

[272BHP]

okgo said:

The “what a plonker” was only said so he could say what he really wanted to. Victim blame.

I can tell from that comment you don't know how to communicate civilly with people either.

[BikeBikeBIke]

oyster said:

272BHP said:

What a plonker.

However people who whip out a phone and escalate situations like this should get a stern telling off from the judge as well. Once a phone is stuck in someones face any chance of normal human interaction or opportunity to calm the situation has gone.

If I was being a fool, finding out I was being filmed would make me stop.

But then I’m not unhinged.

Yeah, filming is exactly the right thing to do.

If he's sane he'll go away if he's a nutter you have evidence.

[MikeM6]

272BHP said:

What a plonker.

However people who whip out a phone and escalate situations like this should get a stern telling off from the judge as well. Once a phone is stuck in someones face any chance of normal human interaction or opportunity to calm the situation has gone.

No, have another think about that one.

[bitchstewie]

272BHP said:

What a plonker.

However people who whip out a phone and escalate situations like this should get a stern telling off from the judge as well. Once a phone is stuck in someones face any chance of normal human interaction or opportunity to calm the situation has gone.

Yeah definitely a bad thing to film evidence of yourself being abused and threatened.

What is it with all the victim blaming st on here

[JackJarvis]

272BHP said:

What a plonker.

However people who whip out a phone and escalate situations like this should get a stern telling off from the judge as well. Once a phone is stuck in someones face any chance of normal human interaction or opportunity to calm the situation has gone.

So, you think he's a plonker but you'd rather there was no evidence of his actions?

I also disagree that it always escalates the situation. A couple of years back some nutter decided to follow me after I "cut him up" (I hadn't). I calmly pulled over, switched my engine off and began filming him on my phone without uttering a word or otherwise reacting. He instantly backed down and drove off. I deleted the footage and got on with my day. If he hadn't backed down then I had evidence of whatever he did.

Edited by JackJarvis on Tuesday 7th May 13:18

[paulguitar]

bhstewie said:

What is it with all the victim blaming st on here

Misogyny, I suspect.

[CraigyMc]

limpsfield said:

The actual video is on the Sun site.

Very angry man.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24222231/foul-mouthe...

He pulls out in front of her at a T-junction (he has the give-way sign, so should be waiting for her to pass) then stops when she beeps her horn to alert him what he's doing/ alert him of her presence, he gets out and rants at her while being told to move by the guy waiting behind her while she videos him.

Is that what happened?

On the face of it he does appear to be a psycho bumbag version of ronnie pickering.

[Otispunkmeyer]

MitchT said:

This is why I don't blow my horn at people who cut me up. You never know what kind of psychopath they might be. I just give them room and forget about it.

Same. Just resist the urge and just move on. Its easier. As long as you made effort to not actually crash or be crashed into then just move on, its just not worth the aggro. I just let it wash over me these days, its no skin off my nose.

[bitchstewie]

paulguitar said:

Misogyny, I suspect.

I do wonder sometimes.

That might be a bit strong but we certainly seem to have our fair share of posters who appear to have some issues with women.

[Superflow]

okgo said:

Superflow the same guy that’s saying shipping immigrants out will win his vote. And I think the one who ran over someone’s cat, then reversed back over it to make sure before driving off?

Sounds like a total see you next Tuesday to me.

Everything ok at home?

I think given some of the name calling and massive over reaction to an opposite viewpoint several posters maybe need to look up irony in their dictionaries.

Chill out guys it’s just the internet you don’t want to end up like our friend in the images which is how I pictured you when reading your posts

[Blue62]

Superflow said:

Everything ok at home?

I think given some of the name calling and massive over reaction to an opposite viewpoint several posters maybe need to look up irony in their dictionaries.

Chill out guys it’s just the internet you don’t want to end up like our friend in the images which is how I pictured you when reading your posts

I think you’ve nailed it. People who don’t hate women have an ‘opposite viewpoint’ and they look like the angry bloke. I’m impressed that you know what a dictionary is, irony isn’t the biggest word but it’s a subtle one and I’m not convinced you’ve cracked it yet, but there’s time as I imagine you’ve a few years to go before your GCSE’s.