Miscreants on a Train

Miscreants on a Train

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CharlieCrocodile

1,203 posts

154 months

Tuesday 7th May
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popeyewhite said:
They stopped the train?!?

No guard to inform I guess?
There was a guard, but what's he going to realistically do?

popeyewhite

20,042 posts

121 months

Tuesday 7th May
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CharlieCrocodile said:
popeyewhite said:
They stopped the train?!?

No guard to inform I guess?
There was a guard, but what's he going to realistically do?
Guard?

JerseyRoyal

117 posts

1 month

Tuesday 7th May
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They’re not paid to take on armed people.

zarjaz1991

3,501 posts

124 months

Tuesday 7th May
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This type of issue isn’t your problem.
Don’t engage with the youths.
Definitely don’t call the police, they’re more likely to arrest you than the youths.

Get on with your day and accept that the police aren’t interested even if you could get hold of them.

Greendubber

13,243 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th May
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zarjaz1991 said:
This type of issue isn’t your problem.
Don’t engage with the youths.
Definitely don’t call the police, they’re more likely to arrest you than the youths.

Get on with your day and accept that the police aren’t interested even if you could get hold of them.
Keep grinding that axe...

craigjm

17,998 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th May
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CharlieCrocodile said:
HTP99 said:
You can text 61016, haven't a clue how effective it is though.
Can confirms that it works, just before Xmas last year there was a drunk bloke on the train generally making a nuisance of himself and being inappropriate with women. I texted with a full description and the carriage I was in.
They called me back and the train was stopped a few stops later.
Yes it works very well. People should use it more than they do. Often we think “too much hassle” “can’t be arsed” “don’t want any trouble” etc but the more this stuff is reported the better.

Leptons

5,119 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Greendubber said:
Keep grinding that axe...
Got any actual advice then Mr policeman?

Leptons

5,119 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th May
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HTP99 said:
dudleybloke said:
If someone goes on about going to, or just got out of prison to act hard my comback is always about them getting bummed.
You hear it often then, where do you live?
Username: Dudley Bloke.

First question - “Where do you live?” rofl well done.

Mont Blanc

675 posts

44 months

Tuesday 7th May
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thebraketester said:
Best thing to do it put as much space between yourself and the idiots. This goes for all areas of life.
This. It is the only sensible answer.

Work in an area as far away from scum as possible.
Live in an area as far away from scum as possible.
Whilst on public transport, stay away from scum and never engage.

I know how the OP feels though. The main annoyance is knowing that these people go through life making it a misery for others, and almost nothing will happen to them, when really all you want to do is have them executed by firing squad.

I see them regularly on commuter trains the Tube and so on. Threatening staff, spoiling for a fight with other passengers, jumping the barriers, carrying their illegal electric scooters with them, and not being challenged by anyone, and so on.

I used to get slightly worked up about it, but now I just think of how stty their lives are, and how they will never amount to anything. They will spend their lives skint and living somewhere horrible, and not experiencing pleasures that the rest of us can. That gives me a warm satisfaction that overwhelms any urge to be annoyed by it.

Greendubber

13,243 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Leptons said:
Greendubber said:
Keep grinding that axe...
Got any actual advice then Mr policeman?
Condescending much? Stop bleating on about the same tedious grudge would be a start to that particular poster.

Other than that, text BTP which has already been covered or simply don't go looking for confrontation and avoid inserting yourself into situations with obvious bell ends.


E3134

3,659 posts

100 months

Tuesday 7th May
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popeyewhite said:
CharlieCrocodile said:
popeyewhite said:
They stopped the train?!?

No guard to inform I guess?
There was a guard, but what's he going to realistically do?
Guard?
there was a fight on a train, manchester to leeds. the four men started throwing anything they could at each other, including lap tops and phones. A ticket inspector had already been through the train, I went to find him, he had gone into empty drivers area at the back of the train and locked the door, he had seen what was happening, 'I am not coming out'.

There was also a beer train on the same line, a train stopped at every station and the idea was that the passengers get out and have beer at local pubs along the way and get back on. Villagers complained because people were pi55ing in their gardens and other passengers complained because the drunks were pi55ing in their seats without even trying to queue for the loo.




Edited by E3134 on Tuesday 7th May 12:27

Greendubber

13,243 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th May
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E3134 said:
popeyewhite said:
CharlieCrocodile said:
popeyewhite said:
They stopped the train?!?

No guard to inform I guess?
There was a guard, but what's he going to realistically do?
Guard?
there was a fight on a train, manchester to leeds. the four men started throwing anything they could at each other, including lap tops and phones. A ticket inspector had already been through the train, I went to find him, he had gone into empty drivers area at the back of the train and locked the door, he had seen what was happening, 'I am not coming out'.
Who can blame him.

Mont Blanc

675 posts

44 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Greendubber said:
Who can blame him.
Well, quite.

There is a reason they are called Ticket Inspectors or Train Managers, and not 'Security'.

As much as we would all like to see a Ticket Inspector get physical with a disrespectful youth or someone without a ticket, it will almost never happen for a myriad of reasons.

Would anyone here want to tackle miscreants for £30k a year? I wouldn't.

Olivera

7,201 posts

240 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Mont Blanc said:
Greendubber said:
Who can blame him.
Well, quite.
It depends on the circumstances, but one could say that was quite pathetic behaviour from the inspector. I wouldn't expect him to get involved in the altercation in any way, but he could perhaps remain a carriage away and help assist other passengers to move away safely. Perhaps that happened here, perhaps not. Locking oneself away behind a door isn't an option available to other passengers.

zarjaz1991

3,501 posts

124 months

Tuesday 7th May
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craigjm said:
Yes it works very well. People should use it more than they do. Often we think “too much hassle” “can’t be arsed” “don’t want any trouble” etc but the more this stuff is reported the better.
I don’t and won’t due to the risk of the police embroiling you in the whole thing, or worse, deciding YOU have committed an offence and arresting you.

See nothing, hear nothing, do nothing.
That is what our authorities want, and so I am happy to oblige.


zarjaz1991

3,501 posts

124 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Greendubber said:
Condescending much? Stop bleating on about the same tedious grudge would be a start to that particular poster.
I’m sure it’s pretty tedious to the police, yes.

Greendubber said:
or simply don't go looking for confrontation and avoid inserting yourself into situations with obvious bell ends.
I quite agree with this and it’s actually the advice I gave.

zarjaz1991

3,501 posts

124 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Mont Blanc said:
Well, quite.

There is a reason they are called Ticket Inspectors or Train Managers, and not 'Security'.

As much as we would all like to see a Ticket Inspector get physical with a disrespectful youth or someone without a ticket, it will almost never happen for a myriad of reasons.

Would anyone here want to tackle miscreants for £30k a year? I wouldn't.
Quite. I don’t even want to see them do that. Not their job, not trained for it, not paid enough for it, plus multiple other reasons.

zarjaz1991

3,501 posts

124 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Greendubber said:
Keep grinding that axe...
I only need to because the police presented it to me in the first place.

I never wanted an axe, I never asked for an axe.

craigjm

17,998 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th May
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zarjaz1991 said:
craigjm said:
Yes it works very well. People should use it more than they do. Often we think “too much hassle” “can’t be arsed” “don’t want any trouble” etc but the more this stuff is reported the better.
I don’t and won’t due to the risk of the police embroiling you in the whole thing, or worse, deciding YOU have committed an offence and arresting you.

See nothing, hear nothing, do nothing.
That is what our authorities want, and so I am happy to oblige.
Seriously? You are not living in North Korea for fks sake. You can even be kept anonymous if you wish.

It’s attitudes like that that leads to “oh I saw some guys that looked suspicious” after you see the news that they have blown up the tube and people are dead.

Turning a blind eye out of some odd fear of the police makes us all less safe

Ken_Code

659 posts

3 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Getting off a packed train with my little boy on Sunday in London a gang of ahole youths pushed their way past us, getting on before letting us off.

In my slightly younger days, and if I’d been travelling alone I’d have done something about it, but not now, and not with my boy.