The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 20]
Discussion
Chris Stott said:
Adam. said:
Hilarious… he really is the complete knob 
Agree on Gakpo as well.
Ultimately whatever the deficiencies we've had in midfield, if our front 3 had taken a decent share of the chances we'd be in a better position than we are.
And whilst I am rambling - VAR needs to f
k off as well.
Creating more problems than it's solving - it's run by a bunch of arse covering incompetents and will never work with them in charge.
Ultimately whatever the deficiencies we've had in midfield, if our front 3 had taken a decent share of the chances we'd be in a better position than we are.
And whilst I am rambling - VAR needs to f
k off as well.Creating more problems than it's solving - it's run by a bunch of arse covering incompetents and will never work with them in charge.
TownIdiot said:
Agree on Gakpo as well.
Ultimately whatever the deficiencies we've had in midfield, if our front 3 had taken a decent share of the chances we'd be in a better position than we are.
And whilst I am rambling - VAR needs to fk off as well.
Creating more problems than it's solving - it's run by a bunch of arse covering incompetents and will never work with them in charge.
Agreed but apparently VAR is helping us every season according to some clowns , Despite the stats proving otherwise.. Never let the truth get in the way Ultimately whatever the deficiencies we've had in midfield, if our front 3 had taken a decent share of the chances we'd be in a better position than we are.
And whilst I am rambling - VAR needs to f
k off as well.Creating more problems than it's solving - it's run by a bunch of arse covering incompetents and will never work with them in charge.
of a good arguement hey
mr sagman said:
Agreed but apparently VAR is helping us every season according to some clowns , Despite the stats proving otherwise.. Never let the truth get in the way
of a good arguement hey
There are clowns everywhere and for every team- I could support a system a bit like "umpire's call" in cricket (including for offsides - in fact for offsides I'd go so far as to say we should go back to having to have clear daylight between the attacker and the defender) of a good arguement hey
But I just don't think this lot are up to it so there's no point.
It won't change though so I am just shouting at clouds really .
TownIdiot said:
mr sagman said:
Agreed but apparently VAR is helping us every season according to some clowns , Despite the stats proving otherwise.. Never let the truth get in the way
of a good arguement hey
There are clowns everywhere and for every team- I could support a system a bit like "umpire's call" in cricket (including for offsides - in fact for offsides I'd go so far as to say we should go back to having to have clear daylight between the attacker and the defender) of a good arguement hey
But I just don't think this lot are up to it so there's no point.
It won't change though so I am just shouting at clouds really .
bigandclever said:
Next season the PL is getting the (semi) automated offside decision making cameras. Might help. Might not
If the rules are still that if your toe is offside then it will still be a load of old tut.And won't be transparent, leading to lots of arse covering.
In the end it's the same for both sides but it's a crap experience as a fan, whether in the stadium (where it is truly ridiculous) or on TV.
Don't really understand all of this talk about our MF/AT as I'd say our issue all season has been conceding goals early and putting them under a lot of pressure to keep digging us out with 2 or more to win games. Was never going to be sustainable long term as will always have a dry spell in front of goal eventually.
More than a goal a game conceded this PL season so far (38 in 36), which is already 12 more than in both the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons when we pushed for the title. You're not winning the league conceding that many at any point in the last decade.
More than a goal a game conceded this PL season so far (38 in 36), which is already 12 more than in both the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons when we pushed for the title. You're not winning the league conceding that many at any point in the last decade.
SWoll said:
Don't really understand all of this talk about our MF/AT as I'd say our issue all season has been conceding goals early and putting them under a lot of pressure to keep digging us out with 2 or more to win games. Was never going to be sustainable long term as will always have a dry spell in front of goal eventually.
More than a goal a game conceded this PL season so far (38 in 36), which is already 12 more than in both the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons when we pushed for the title. You're not winning the league conceding that many at any point in the last decade.
I can see your point but in most of the games we have a considerable number of relatively easy chances wasted. I was an apologist for Nunez but it's been beyond the pale recently. There's no doubt we have issues but our previous front three would have baled us out in other seasons, given the number of clear cut opportunities created. - edited to add the fact that these players weren't cheap makes it worse.More than a goal a game conceded this PL season so far (38 in 36), which is already 12 more than in both the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons when we pushed for the title. You're not winning the league conceding that many at any point in the last decade.
A further edit to add - what a ride it's been though. Can't really have any complaints about being in the thick of things until April. We are rarely boring and we have had some amazing moments.
I for one will miss Klopp when he's gone and think we will look back on this period as a (relative) golden era in which he was unlucky to come up against City.
Edited by TownIdiot on Tuesday 7th May 17:50
TownIdiot said:
what a ride it's been though. Can't really have any complaints about being in the thick of things until April. We are rarely boring and we have had some amazing moments.
I for one will miss Klopp when he's gone and think we will look back on this period as a (relative) golden era in which he was unlucky to come up against City.
I think we all thought this season was going to be "difficult" after such big changes last summer. And most are probably happy, when the dust has settled, that we got 3rd and a trophy. The trophy was won by the kids too, mostly, and they played a big part in covering injuries through the season. The future could be very bright for most of them, whether with us or elsewhere.I for one will miss Klopp when he's gone and think we will look back on this period as a (relative) golden era in which he was unlucky to come up against City.
Agree on the last sentence. Given City's (ALLEGED) financial doping - which their lawyers are now apparently warning social media commentators to stop mentioning - Klopp's success is even more impressive in reality than it looks on paper. Our best period since the mid 1980s. And some of the football was out of this world (watching the dvd of our title winning season, some of the goals footage looks like a video game, the passing is so precise and quick).
I'm sure nobody is expecting Slot (if it is he) to immediately carry that on but for sure, still reasons to be optimistic about the future. Certainly not sitting here thinking "God, he'll be crap". Interesting times ahead.
SWoll said:
Don't really understand all of this talk about our MF/AT as I'd say our issue all season has been conceding goals early and putting them under a lot of pressure to keep digging us out with 2 or more to win games. Was never going to be sustainable long term as will always have a dry spell in front of goal eventually.
More than a goal a game conceded this PL season so far (38 in 36), which is already 12 more than in both the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons when we pushed for the title. You're not winning the league conceding that many at any point in the last decade.
Amen! Our defence has been diabolical at times this season. More than a goal a game conceded this PL season so far (38 in 36), which is already 12 more than in both the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons when we pushed for the title. You're not winning the league conceding that many at any point in the last decade.
But overall there are promising signs. If we can tighten up at the back and be more clinical we can improve a fair bit. Big 'if' though.
TownIdiot said:
in fact for offsides I'd go so far as to say we should go back to having to have clear daylight between the attacker and the defender) .
How will that help anything? VAR will just be deciding on daylight gaps and billowing shirts.Offside was something like 96% accurate when manual and 98% with VAR, I would happily sacrifice that 2% for celebrating a goal again
Adam. said:
TownIdiot said:
in fact for offsides I'd go so far as to say we should go back to having to have clear daylight between the attacker and the defender) .
How will that help anything? VAR will just be deciding on daylight gaps and billowing shirts.Offside was something like 96% accurate when manual and 98% with VAR, I would happily sacrifice that 2% for celebrating a goal again
I would not be using VAR at all given the choice but as a general point I'd rather offside was changed so only a fraction of the player had to be onside rather than off. Although that would be far worse for our high back line.
At least Nunez might be onside every so often though
TownIdiot said:
Sorry I wasn't clear.
I would not be using VAR at all given the choice but as a general point I'd rather offside was changed so only a fraction of the player had to be onside rather than off. Although that would be far worse for our high back line.
At least Nunez might be onside every so often though
GotchaI would not be using VAR at all given the choice but as a general point I'd rather offside was changed so only a fraction of the player had to be onside rather than off. Although that would be far worse for our high back line.
At least Nunez might be onside every so often though
You could end with some big old gaps, imagine the book heel of a defender turning away from goal being an inch overlapped with an attackers back toe running towards goal
Adam. said:
Gotcha
You could end with some big old gaps, imagine the book heel of a defender turning away from goal being an inch overlapped with an attackers back toe running towards goal
This is true.You could end with some big old gaps, imagine the book heel of a defender turning away from goal being an inch overlapped with an attackers back toe running towards goal
But you get the same in reverse now.
Someone with size 11s offside because the defender wears size 8s
phil_cardiff said:
Amen! Our defence has been diabolical at times this season.
But overall there are promising signs. If we can tighten up at the back and be more clinical we can improve a fair bit. Big 'if' though.
As you say there's definite potential there. But overall there are promising signs. If we can tighten up at the back and be more clinical we can improve a fair bit. Big 'if' though.
From a defensive perspective I'd very much like to see us move away from the zonal marking system we currently use at set pieces as to me makes no sense at all and is far too easy to exploit. Our defenders are far too static and we get overloaded in certain areas regularly. We also need a more dynamic 6 IMHO as Endo is far too easy to play around and ends up giving away too many fouls when chasing back. Solid squad player though.
Not sure about the attackers as we seem to have a widespread composure issue. Maybe some new training techniques being brought in will help.
I suspect it's impossible to make an offside rule that pleases everyone.
The trouble with VAR is partly weird bloody laws of the game now but mainly that they seem to have to justify the expense by using it for far more than was originally suggested. They seem to have said "we can't have 2 officials watching every game plus the tech operator, if all they're doing is looking for balls over the line - we have to keep our staff busy".
Nonsensical load of toot, frankly. But it will never be got rid of now, given the expense. Best we can hope for is they reduce what their brief is, and simplify the laws of the game a bit.
The trouble with VAR is partly weird bloody laws of the game now but mainly that they seem to have to justify the expense by using it for far more than was originally suggested. They seem to have said "we can't have 2 officials watching every game plus the tech operator, if all they're doing is looking for balls over the line - we have to keep our staff busy".
Nonsensical load of toot, frankly. But it will never be got rid of now, given the expense. Best we can hope for is they reduce what their brief is, and simplify the laws of the game a bit.
I wonder if he'll be the first of a few American players to be signed in the coming years?
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/keyrol-figueroa-s...
FSG have been keen to grow Liverpool in US markets and I wonder if Edwards new remit will potentially include looking to buy an MLS club or creating an expansion club but entry seems to be quite expensive.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2024/0...
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/keyrol-figueroa-s...
FSG have been keen to grow Liverpool in US markets and I wonder if Edwards new remit will potentially include looking to buy an MLS club or creating an expansion club but entry seems to be quite expensive.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2024/0...
Flip Martian said:
Pretty sure I read somewhere that part of Edwards' remit WAS to acquire an MLS club. It seemed fact based and not conjecture but can't remember the details.
One thing I don't understand, is how a club like LAFC can be worth $1.2bn when they have an operating income of just $9m? Obviously there is squad value and stadium value... but $1.2bn? Seems excessive to me. Surprised FSG didn't join the MLS party sooner, as values seem to have rocketed along with the TV money injected.Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff