Worst aging cars?

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ChocolateFrog

25,650 posts

174 months

Sunday 7th April
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thecremeegg said:
Just me who thinks the Teslas don't look dates then? They aren't pretty that's for sure but they also aren't dated
I think the Model S is actually quite nicely proportioned and it's the definition of inoffensive despite how many people it actually seems to offend.

The Model 3 is the definition of bland but the Y is ugly stepchild.

ajap1979

8,014 posts

188 months

Sunday 7th April
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Range Rover Sport for me, which is odd because I think the full fat versions are almost universally timeless designs.

E90_M3Ross

35,140 posts

213 months

Sunday 7th April
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ingenieur said:
T1berious said:
EV's have to chase low drag figures so add that to the brief of moving people and luggage means we get blobs.
Why do EVs have to chase low drag figures?
Range. Until amazing battery tech comes along when range isn't such a concern for many people then it will be a fairly significant factor I think.

ChocolateFrog

25,650 posts

174 months

Sunday 7th April
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T1berious said:
First generation Cayenne \ Toureg have aged pretty badly. If you go further back I saw a Ford Probe recently and that design has also aged poorly, its competition (to my eyes) have faired better, VW Corrado, Vauxhall Calibra to name two.

EV's have to chase low drag figures so add that to the brief of moving people and luggage means we get blobs.
I actually think the first gen Touareg is a decent looking car and the build quality was certainly better than newer ones.

Main problem is they're all run on a shoestring and look shagged parked on the curb outside a council house.

Agree on the Cayenne although I think that's a better car than the new Cayenne, which is more of an X6 in concept.

22 years old, predates the iPhone by 5 years.


ingenieur

4,097 posts

182 months

Sunday 7th April
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E90_M3Ross said:
ingenieur said:
T1berious said:
EV's have to chase low drag figures so add that to the brief of moving people and luggage means we get blobs.
Why do EVs have to chase low drag figures?
Range. Until amazing battery tech comes along when range isn't such a concern for many people then it will be a fairly significant factor I think.
I thought people who owned EVs could get from London to Aberdeen with one stop for a 15 minute charge.

ChocolateFrog

25,650 posts

174 months

Sunday 7th April
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E90_M3Ross said:
ingenieur said:
T1berious said:
EV's have to chase low drag figures so add that to the brief of moving people and luggage means we get blobs.
Why do EVs have to chase low drag figures?
Range. Until amazing battery tech comes along when range isn't such a concern for many people then it will be a fairly significant factor I think.
Yep. A large battery holds around 10x less energy than a middling tank of fuel and the drag/speed relationship being what it is means if you want to cruise at 80mph economically then pick a slippery shape.

GT9

6,804 posts

173 months

Sunday 7th April
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ingenieur said:
I thought people who owned EVs could get from London to Aberdeen with one stop for a 15 minute charge.
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ChocolateFrog

25,650 posts

174 months

Sunday 7th April
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ingenieur said:
E90_M3Ross said:
ingenieur said:
T1berious said:
EV's have to chase low drag figures so add that to the brief of moving people and luggage means we get blobs.
Why do EVs have to chase low drag figures?
Range. Until amazing battery tech comes along when range isn't such a concern for many people then it will be a fairly significant factor I think.
I thought people who owned EVs could get from London to Aberdeen with one stop for a 15 minute charge.
I know you're being facetious but a Model S could do that with about 30 mins stop.

ajap1979

8,014 posts

188 months

Sunday 7th April
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ingenieur said:
E90_M3Ross said:
ingenieur said:
T1berious said:
EV's have to chase low drag figures so add that to the brief of moving people and luggage means we get blobs.
Why do EVs have to chase low drag figures?
Range. Until amazing battery tech comes along when range isn't such a concern for many people then it will be a fairly significant factor I think.
I thought people who owned EVs could get from London to Aberdeen with one stop for a 15 minute charge.
Come on people, I’m sure OP didn’t want his thread to turn into this rolleyes

ChocolateFrog

25,650 posts

174 months

Sunday 7th April
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Vauxhall almost universally for me.

The Insignia looked good for a few months but then immediately looks dated.

The Meriva, jeez.

The Adam is about the only car from their current lineup that still looks alright.

I'd like to think the gross grilled BMWs will age terribly but if history has taught us anything it's that BMWs tend to look better with age, X6 excepted.

Roboticarm

1,454 posts

62 months

Sunday 7th April
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I think anything which tried to be modern looks old quickly; for example a 3 series BMW follows a design pattern so always look fresh but never trying to be ultra modern ultra cool, just a bit more modern than the last
All those vauxhall cross over things, nissan jukes, odd little Peugeot's... Trying hard to be modern so are point in time fine but then modern moves on.
Range rovers, not my taste but again follow a good pattern.
I don't think anyone will have ever look at a 30 year old Vauxhall Mokka and think, that really was a good bit of design, a 30 year old golf tends to though

I disagree with the Tesla comments, I'm not a fan of Tesla's but I do feel like the model S still looks great

Mammasaid

3,891 posts

98 months

Sunday 7th April
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ChocolateFrog said:
Vauxhall almost universally for me.

The Insignia looked good for a few months but then immediately looks dated.

The Meriva, jeez.

The Adam is about the only car from their current line-up that still looks alright.

I'd like to think the gross grilled BMWs will age terribly but if history has taught us anything it's that BMWs tend to look better with age, X6 excepted.
I hate to have to tell you, but the Adam was discontinued 5 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_Adam

fflump

1,416 posts

39 months

Sunday 7th April
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Audi saloons age badly IMO.
The company change the front end (especially grill) so often and so drastically as to render older iterations looking very dated.

Olivera

7,200 posts

240 months

Sunday 7th April
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J4CKO said:
But, they are also a bit plain and samey, I don’t think they are a bad shape at all, the 3 and S anyway, but the 3 just lacks a bit of visual impact and so many are in white as mentioned, see one in a nice strong red or blue and it lifts it, the Model S is better looking but they have been flogging what is essentially the same design for what 13 years ?
The general Tesla design language of clean and unfussy surfaces has stood the test of time, hence the Model S doesn't look particularly dated.

The Model 3 on the other hand is just rather odd, with a huge expanse of windscreen glass (in height) together with ubiquitous white giving it the duck billed platypus look.

brownspeed

747 posts

132 months

Sunday 7th April
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ok, back on topic; here is a contentious one
Nissan 350/370z (sorry if any of you have one) I LOVED these when they were launched but now (to me IMHO) they haven't aged well - especially the convertibles.

ingenieur

4,097 posts

182 months

Sunday 7th April
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brownspeed said:
ok, back on topic; here is a contentious one
Nissan 350/370z (sorry if any of you have one) I LOVED these when they were launched but now (to me IMHO) they haven't aged well - especially the convertibles.
Never liked them.

ingenieur

4,097 posts

182 months

Sunday 7th April
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fflump said:
Audi saloons age badly IMO.
The company change the front end (especially grill) so often and so drastically as to render older iterations looking very dated.
Perhaps it is the case though that some of the Audis you're thinking of are now quite old? When they started getting quite spangley in the early naughties... that's 20 or more years ago now. Those cars should look old.

biggbn

23,625 posts

221 months

Sunday 7th April
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The new Range Rovers from Velar up are already looking as dated as flares abd a disco ball did. Chasing a look that's already moved on. Awful looking things, although I concede the FFRR side profile can still pull of an element of class/gravitas in the right colour. I'm claiming they have aged really badly because I really liked them when they were released about ten minutes ago, but they are already yesterday's news to my eyes in a way that an L405 isn't...

CLK-GTR

764 posts

246 months

Sunday 7th April
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ChocolateFrog said:
Vauxhall almost universally for me.

The Insignia looked good for a few months but then immediately looks dated.

The Meriva, jeez.

The Adam is about the only car from their current lineup that still looks alright.

I'd like to think the gross grilled BMWs will age terribly but if history has taught us anything it's that BMWs tend to look better with age, X6 excepted.
BMW are the opposite, they're so awful on release that over time you just sort of get used to them.


I think the DB7 looks a tired design now, possibly because they used the same basics for so long afterwards on both Aston Martin and Jaguar.


Gigamoons

17,754 posts

201 months

Sunday 7th April
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BMW e65 7 series.
To these eyes it looked terrible at launch.
I was told it was modern, ahead of its time. It's looks will make sense they said.
Nope...
Turns out it was just a terrible design that looks even worse today than it did 23 years ago!