BSB 2024 it’s race time

[Spevs]

All todays racing is free to air on Dmax if anyone interested.

[GreigR]

Sounds like Skinner had a nasty one in morning warmup, crash at Island Bend in which his helmet came off.

[gareth_r]

Spevs said:

All todays racing is free to air on Dmax if anyone interested.

And it starts earlier than on Eurosport.

And there's a +1.

Edited by gareth_r on Monday 6th May 13:27

[waynedear]

Jazoli said:

It’s on the Discovery+ app.

Thanks, found it's also on Quest hd, which luckily we have.

[Tam_Mullen]

GreigR said:

Sounds like Skinner had a nasty one in morning warmup, crash at Island Bend in which his helmet came off.

Verbal statement from Plater was on about how the helmet flexed in such a way that let it slip off.

I can’t help but think it’s absolutely unacceptable that a helmet ‘slips off’.

It’s Bell Rory wears FWIW.

[trickywoo]

The skinner crash was horrible to see. Quite often when a helmet comes off it’s a lot more serious.

Thankfully he’s fine.

Decent racing I thought.

Good for Bridewell bad for FHO bit indifferent for OMG.

GIR looking good.

[slopes]

Been out of range of any sort of internet connection for a few days.

FHO - still seem to be having issues with the BMW,yet Skinner and Haslam don't, very strange.
Honda - Bridewell is riding the wheels off that thing and if he could just get better starts, he could be fighting for race wins

Ducati - good round for Iddon and nice to see him back at the front again, Glenn Irwin doing what i expected him to do but as someone else said on here, after round 3 we will have a much better idea of how things are going to go.
Yamaha - Good round again for Kent but not so good for Vickers and Ryde is having some problems it seems, you have to think that if Ryde doesn't get a grip on things and sharpish, he will be looking for a different ride next year.

So good to see Skinner up and about and fingers crossed for those hurt during the melee on the F900 warm up lap

[TwinKam]

TB apparently did Oulton with a virtually 'stock' motor as the 'tuned' one won't stay together for race distance, they must've dialled the revs back or something to keep the top end together. Come on Honda, engines are meant to be your speciality, sort it out!
He showed some real speed at times at Navarra and during testing at Oulton, making AI & DH look rather lack-lustre, handling looks secure but there's clearly a problem with that engine.

[slopes]

TwinKam said:

TB apparently did Oulton with a virtually 'stock' motor as the 'tuned' one won't stay together for race distance, they must've dialled the revs back or something to keep the top end together. Come on Honda, engines are meant to be your speciality, sort it out!
He showed some real speed at times at Navarra and during testing at Oulton, making AI & DH look rather lack-lustre, handling looks secure but there's clearly a problem with that engine.

Yeah not sure what is going on with Andy Irwin, he seems to have gone backwards this year. Dean will excel at the roads side of things but surprised he was so far behind at Oulton

[graeme4130]

TwinKam said:

TB apparently did Oulton with a virtually 'stock' motor as the 'tuned' one won't stay together for race distance, they must've dialled the revs back or something to keep the top end together. Come on Honda, engines are meant to be your speciality, sort it out!
He showed some real speed at times at Navarra and during testing at Oulton, making AI & DH look rather lack-lustre, handling looks secure but there's clearly a problem with that engine.

To be fair, at Oulton that's so much of an issue as it's very rare that on a lap they have full throttle and full power
A good stock Fireblade motor is still north of 215bhp

[TwinKam]

graeme4130 said:

TwinKam said:

TB apparently did Oulton with a virtually 'stock' motor as the 'tuned' one won't stay together for race distance, they must've dialled the revs back or something to keep the top end together. Come on Honda, engines are meant to be your speciality, sort it out!
He showed some real speed at times at Navarra and during testing at Oulton, making AI & DH look rather lack-lustre, handling looks secure but there's clearly a problem with that engine.

To be fair, at Oulton that's so much of an issue as it's very rare that on a lap they have full throttle and full power
A good stock Fireblade motor is still north of 215bhp

...but nowhere near the 245(?) it should have...

[trickywoo]

I think the TB talk of a super stock engine is mind games but whatever the truth is doesn’t look good for Honda. It’s embarrassing when nobody else has similar issues.

[Sidecar Man]

trickywoo said:

I think the TB talk of a super stock engine is mind games but whatever the truth is doesn’t look good for Honda. It’s embarrassing when nobody else has similar issues.

No mind games Honda are having massive Supply/Engine problems. To the point they are not using Superbike engines at NW. So they have some left for the TT

[pitlane]

TwinKam said:

graeme4130 said:

TwinKam said:

TB apparently did Oulton with a virtually 'stock' motor as the 'tuned' one won't stay together for race distance, they must've dialled the revs back or something to keep the top end together. Come on Honda, engines are meant to be your speciality, sort it out!
He showed some real speed at times at Navarra and during testing at Oulton, making AI & DH look rather lack-lustre, handling looks secure but there's clearly a problem with that engine.

To be fair, at Oulton that's so much of an issue as it's very rare that on a lap they have full throttle and full power
A good stock Fireblade motor is still north of 215bhp

...but nowhere near the 245(?) it should have...

Some of the BSB teams build motors with less power than possible deliberately, for circuits like Oulton, Knockhill etc. You can take power out with the electronics, but it won't give you the added driveability you want lower down compared to a purpose built spec. As above, also the stock motors in most of the 1000's are so good these days you could bolt one in and still be competitive at circuits like these.

As for Rory, assuming he hasn't changed it since last season, he has quite a lot of hair. A thick layer of hair between your head and the lining of a crash helmet will always increase the movement between the two things, and increase the chances of it coming off. It's probably one of the reasons (as well as heat) that the vast majority of the GP paddock have pretty short hair, across all three classes only a handful I can think of with long hair.

I know nothing about Rory's incident so not saying that is what the issue was, but a lot of hair under lids is something that people often don't think enough about the safety aspect.

[egor110]

He's got it a bit shorter now i think .

[Mr Tidy]

I only saw the highlights today which didn't include Rory Skinners' crash, but that was probably a good thing. Anyway it sounded like he only needed precautionary tests which is good news.

Hicky had a big one in Race 3, but at least he was able to walk away.

Glenn Irwin has to be pleased with a treble, but the competition is fierce so that's great news for us!

[trickywoo]

pitlane said:

Some of the BSB teams build motors with less power than possible deliberately, for circuits like Oulton, Knockhill etc. You can take power out with the electronics, but it won't give you the added driveability you want lower down compared to a purpose built spec. As above, also the stock motors in most of the 1000's are so good these days you could bolt one in and still be competitive at circuits like these.

As for Rory, assuming he hasn't changed it since last season, he has quite a lot of hair. A thick layer of hair between your head and the lining of a crash helmet will always increase the movement between the two things, and increase the chances of it coming off. It's probably one of the reasons (as well as heat) that the vast majority of the GP paddock have pretty short hair, across all three classes only a handful I can think of with long hair.

I know nothing about Rory's incident so not saying that is what the issue was, but a lot of hair under lids is something that people often don't think enough about the safety aspect.

Guy Martin had his share of big crashes with plenty of hair. Don’t think he’s had a helmet come off.

[Drabbesttunic]

slopes said:

Been out of range of any sort of internet connection for a few days.

FHO - still seem to be having issues with the BMW,yet Skinner and Haslam don't, very strange.
Honda - Bridewell is riding the wheels off that thing and if he could just get better starts, he could be fighting for race wins

Ducati - good round for Iddon and nice to see him back at the front again, Glenn Irwin doing what i expected him to do but as someone else said on here, after round 3 we will have a much better idea of how things are going to go.
Yamaha - Good round again for Kent but not so good for Vickers and Ryde is having some problems it seems, you have to think that if Ryde doesn't get a grip on things and sharpish, he will be looking for a different ride next year.

So good to see Skinner up and about and fingers crossed for those hurt during the melee on the F900 warm up lap

I think Haslam was having a few problems too with the BM
Even if Ryde swaps teams, his problem is himself, that bike and team is more than capable

[pitlane]

trickywoo said:

Guy Martin had his share of big crashes with plenty of hair. Don’t think he’s had a helmet come off.

Of course, I'm not saying it's a given, that would be mad.

Having worked with riders who had a lot of hair, then got it cut, then had to go straight to their crash helmet supplier's service truck at the next event for totally new padding (as lid was just falling around on their head) is very telling.

[Sidecar Man]

I know of 3 Riders now Who have used that type of Bell Helmet where it has come off in a crash.
It has some kind of twist system in the lining so the shell rotates around the lining.