Fred Whitton 2024

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Steve vRS

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242 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Anyone else taking part this weekend? Whisper it, but the weather looks fantastic….

CambsBill

1,940 posts

179 months

Sunday 12th May
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Yep, i was there. Only did the Lion & Lamb route though. Great day biggrin Was that you in the PH top?

Steve vRS

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242 months

Monday 13th May
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No I was in my club jersey, North Cheshire Clarion.

It was bloody hot and I didn’t drink enough which lead to cramps in the last 20 miles. That or insufficient training and an over ambitious first 50 miles when I thought I could ride with the big boy groups!!

ChocolateFrog

25,650 posts

174 months

Monday 13th May
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Yep.

Missed the second cutoff by 3 mins.

TBF I think they would have let me continue but I was getting so slow on the hills that all the signage was starting to disappear.

I'm 108kg and that was just too heavy. My brother and mate who I did it with both finished. Circa 10 and 11 hours.

We forgot suncream nuts

ChocolateFrog

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174 months

Monday 13th May
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CambsBill said:
Yep, i was there. Only did the Lion & Lamb route though. Great day biggrin Was that you in the PH top?
That was me!.

I assume you were one of the 1500 or so that cycled past me biglaugh

Steve vRS

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Monday 13th May
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I forgot suncream as well.

It was in the car but when I got to Grasmere my priority was finding a toilet with some bog roll in it.

ChocolateFrog

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174 months

Monday 13th May
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Do clubs get tickets through a different process because it surprised me how any large clubs there seemed to be.

I thought after your first one it was quite hard to get a place. Although I did hear someone talking about registering under a different name.

Steve vRS

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Monday 13th May
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Not to my knowledge. I got a place this year as I was a volunteer last year.

redback911

2,744 posts

267 months

Monday 13th May
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ChocolateFrog said:
CambsBill said:
Yep, i was there. Only did the Lion & Lamb route though. Great day biggrin Was that you in the PH top?
That was me!.

I assume you were one of the 1500 or so that cycled past me biglaugh
Hehe, I called out the PH top when I overtook you on an early climb. You were not looking happy. biggrin Good effort though.

It was a warm one, humid too. Maybe 6th or 7th Fred, I've never seen so many people having to push up Hardknott. It was brutal conditions with headwinds all the way up Cold Fell (after Ennerdale), Eskdale and Hardknott. Well done folks!



Edited by redback911 on Monday 13th May 08:35

redback911

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267 months

Monday 13th May
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ChocolateFrog said:
Do clubs get tickets through a different process because it surprised me how any large clubs there seemed to be.

I thought after your first one it was quite hard to get a place. Although I did hear someone talking about registering under a different name.
Not that I know of, it should be random. Some of the local folks from BCW, Lakes Road Club, etc. did not get a spot and were disappointed. It has become hugely popular.

If your willing to pay an extra £100 you can get charity spot which opens up a few weeks before the lottery (£99 fee). Then you choose one of three Charities that extra £100 goes too. I usually choose North West Ambulance service - personally £199 is ok, considering the costs of Triathlons and running events these days.

For he folks that have not done The Fred, the level of support from locals and organisers is great. Plus some of the passes are closed to traffic so makes it much easier for folks in the event. Cycling with 2500 people is a great experience.

Edited by redback911 on Monday 13th May 08:44

Dsdans

124 posts

57 months

Monday 13th May
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Didn’t intend to participate, but did end up trapped in the middle of the pack (in the car) for a good couple of miles somewhere along the route from Cockermouth to Scale Force. biggrindriving

redback911

2,744 posts

267 months

Monday 13th May
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Dsdans said:
Didn’t intend to participate, but did end up trapped in the middle of the pack (in the car) for a good couple of miles somewhere along the route from Cockermouth to Scale Force. biggrindriving
Sorry. biggrin

I do have some sympathy for car drivers on/near The Fred rout - Buttermere, Newlands, Honister, Seatoller, are usually the choke points for cars.

Last year was especially bad as it was sunny bank holiday weekend and even more people had come to the Lakes in cars, a few unhappy car drivers. But. The majority were quite supportive and just accepted the wait and gave encouragement.

ChocolateFrog

25,650 posts

174 months

Monday 13th May
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redback911 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
CambsBill said:
Yep, i was there. Only did the Lion & Lamb route though. Great day biggrin Was that you in the PH top?
That was me!.

I assume you were one of the 1500 or so that cycled past me biglaugh
Hehe, I called out the PH top when I overtook you on an early climb. You were not looking happy. biggrin Good effort though.

It was a warm one, humid too. Maybe 6th or 7th Fred, I've never seen so many people having to push up Hardknott. It was brutal conditions with headwinds all the way up Cold Fell (after Ennerdale), Eskdale and Hardknott. Well done folks!



Edited by redback911 on Monday 13th May 08:35
Yes the headwind on Cold fell couldn't have been more head on, the guys said it didn't get any better after the Calder Bridge.

I think Zwift is more accurate on the gradients than I was giving it credit for biglaugh

CambsBill

1,940 posts

179 months

Tuesday 14th May
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ChocolateFrog said:
CambsBill said:
Yep, i was there. Only did the Lion & Lamb route though. Great day biggrin Was that you in the PH top?
That was me!.

I assume you were one of the 1500 or so that cycled past me biglaugh
Two or three times, so must have been doing a similar pace biggrin

Big kudos to anyone who completed the course. Having missed couple of months training earlier in the year I'd already decided to do the Lion & Lamb & it was the right decision for me. Whinlatter & Cold Fell would have been OK but there's no way I was fit enough for Hardnott etc.

On a PH note, I had a bit of a giggle on the descent from Newlands - at a point where the road narrowed there was a sudden convoy of Ferrari, Lambo, Aston & Jag coming up the hill very, very slowly and looking like they were regretting their choice of route for a Sunday morning noon biggrin

Steve vRS

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4,862 posts

242 months

Tuesday 14th May
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I've done this ride 5 times now and I would say that the car traffic on the A66 in particular was the worst I've seen. Probably due to the weather being so nice and bringing a lot of people into the Lakes. One of those things, it's a public road event. And I do hold my hand up and admit to riding in such a way to annoy the drivers (overtaking cars who in turn were held up by slower riders) but you do get wrapped up in the event. I am normally a very law abiding rider - no red light jumping etc.

mrtomsv

774 posts

240 months

Tuesday 14th May
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I was there too. I saw someone in a PH jersey between Kirkstone and the A66.

Following on from what has been said above, I think a lot of people could do with remembering that the Highway Code is the rule set that applies during open road events, not whatever local club etiquette they’re used to.

The amount of entitled, Alpha type, riders who thought that loudly shouting their club lingo would grant them the instant right to barge past other riders/cars was getting annoying at times. Thankfully it seemed to reduce once past Honister and Newlands climbs which seemed to split up a few groups (and temper a few egos). I wouldn’t normally mention such things, but it was easy to see why so many cars drivers hate group cyclists who behave this way.

Otherwise, a fantastic day out! Can’t believe our luck with the weather.

VeeReihenmotor6

2,188 posts

176 months

Tuesday 14th May
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I did this event in 2017 and was the best event ever!

9hrs 2mins it took, did it with mate, well he did it in 7hrs 14 so we didn't see much of each other. Found him relaxed having a leg massage when I finished