Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?
Discussion
Oilchange said:
Curiously, if the majority in the UK are centrist, what does it make them?
Centrist. The centre isn't fixed to a time and place; the preferences of the electorate, shaped by the behaviour of the parties (who, especially as incumbents can seek to preference-shape the centre towards their preferences) and wider events, serve to define it. How able a party is to divine the centre is quite another story!
The concept, as classically defined by Anthony Downs in "An Economic Theory of Democracy", is one of the 101s of how a 2-party system works.
ntiz said:
If anyone wants a laugh go check out the comments of the reform instagram page.
Lovely comments like this:
Unfortunately I didn’t screen shot it but my favourite was a women absolutely adamant that she wouldn’t be forced to wear hijab by Khans Islamic government…………….. just wow.
Not really surprised - their supporters are loons. Lovely comments like this:
Unfortunately I didn’t screen shot it but my favourite was a women absolutely adamant that she wouldn’t be forced to wear hijab by Khans Islamic government…………….. just wow.
AmyRichardson said:
Oilchange said:
Curiously, if the majority in the UK are centrist, what does it make them?
Centrist. The centre isn't fixed to a time and place; the preferences of the electorate, shaped by the behaviour of the parties (who, especially as incumbents can seek to preference-shape the centre towards their preferences) and wider events, serve to define it. How able a party is to divine the centre is quite another story!
The concept, as classically defined by Anthony Downs in "An Economic Theory of Democracy", is one of the 101s of how a 2-party system works.
AmyRichardson said:
Oilchange said:
Curiously, if the majority in the UK are centrist, what does it make them?
Centrist. The centre isn't fixed to a time and place; the preferences of the electorate, shaped by the behaviour of the parties (who, especially as incumbents can seek to preference-shape the centre towards their preferences) and wider events, serve to define it. How able a party is to divine the centre is quite another story!
The concept, as classically defined by Anthony Downs in "An Economic Theory of Democracy", is one of the 101s of how a 2-party system works.
ntiz said:
If anyone wants a laugh go check out the comments of the reform instagram page.
Lovely comments like this:
Unfortunately I didn’t screen shot it but my favourite was a women absolutely adamant that she wouldn’t be forced to wear hijab by Khans Islamic government…………….. just wow.
The problem is that these people get all their information from poor quality online sources (i.e. pushed opinion) and don't actually visit places like KAAAAAHHHNNNS London. Their social media pushes a particular type of misinformation and they stupidly believe it as truthful.Lovely comments like this:
Unfortunately I didn’t screen shot it but my favourite was a women absolutely adamant that she wouldn’t be forced to wear hijab by Khans Islamic government…………….. just wow.
Yertis said:
skwdenyer said:
Electoral results suggest the UK is always centre-left.
When is "always"? Always since when?That counts as “always” for most people living now.
Yertis said:
When is "always"? Always since when?
It's based on the supposition that certain parties necessarily represent certain things. In recent decades this has meant seeing the right as "tories, unionists and right fringe nuts" and making the left everything else (including, say, lumping the LD and Nat vote wholesale into "the left" - which a significant minority are not.) Whenever I've looked into this in the past (because it's a durable trope) it appears the answer is "very close."
AmyRichardson said:
Yertis said:
When is "always"? Always since when?
It's based on the supposition that certain parties necessarily represent certain things. In recent decades this has meant seeing the right as "tories, unionists and right fringe nuts" and making the left everything else (including, say, lumping the LD and Nat vote wholesale into "the left" - which a significant minority are not.) Whenever I've looked into this in the past (because it's a durable trope) it appears the answer is "very close."
AmyRichardson said:
Yertis said:
When is "always"? Always since when?
It's based on the supposition that certain parties necessarily represent certain things. In recent decades this has meant seeing the right as "tories, unionists and right fringe nuts" and making the left everything else (including, say, lumping the LD and Nat vote wholesale into "the left" - which a significant minority are not.) Whenever I've looked into this in the past (because it's a durable trope) it appears the answer is "very close."
ntiz said:
If anyone wants a laugh go check out the comments of the reform instagram page.
Lovely comments like this:
Unfortunately I didn’t screen shot it but my favourite was a women absolutely adamant that she wouldn’t be forced to wear hijab by Khans Islamic government…………….. just wow.
I was with them up until "far".Lovely comments like this:
Unfortunately I didn’t screen shot it but my favourite was a women absolutely adamant that she wouldn’t be forced to wear hijab by Khans Islamic government…………….. just wow.
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