Boeing Starliner

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Eric Mc

122,195 posts

267 months

Friday 10th May
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dukeboy749r said:
I just came across this article.

I wonder how much traction/degree of seriousness, NASA will treat this?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nasa-contrac...
Sounds like Valve Tech may not be completely neutral in this matter.

Beati Dogu

8,930 posts

141 months

Tuesday 14th May
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The plan is to try again on Tuesday, 21st May at 4:43 pm ET (9.43 pm UK time).

Beati Dogu

8,930 posts

141 months

Tuesday 21st May
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That got bumped to Saturday 25th May, but is on hold again. The problem is with the capsule itself now, which has a helium leak. No word on an alternative date yet.

Dog Star

16,172 posts

170 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Beati Dogu said:
That got bumped to Saturday 25th May, but is on hold again. The problem is with the capsule itself now, which has a helium leak. No word on an alternative date yet.
So …. If it had launched on schedule then it’d be currently attached to the ISS with a helium leak?

Absolutely tragic.

(I assume the crew would need to return on…. a rescue Dragon).

FMOB

1,055 posts

14 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Maybe they should stop announcing the future dates for dissapointment and just get the thing up there and tell the media after.

dukeboy749r

2,806 posts

212 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Whilst I am not for defending Boeing, et al.

There is the missing element of (and the hydrogen!) why do these things keep cropping up?

SpaceX has managed the whole of their crewed capsule in a far more timely and (so far) fault-free manner.

What are Boeing incapable of?

FMOB

1,055 posts

14 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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dukeboy749r said:
Whilst I am not for defending Boeing, et al.

There is the missing element of (and the hydrogen!) why do these things keep cropping up?

SpaceX has managed the whole of their crewed capsule in a far more timely and (so far) fault-free manner.

What are Boeing incapable of?
Everything by the sound of things and their new range of self-dismantling aeroplanes is rather telling.

Beati Dogu

8,930 posts

141 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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It's said that the 1997 takeover of McDonnell Douglas did for them. Boeing used to be run by engineers and made many fine aircraft and rockets. Now they're run by MBAs who only care for the bottom line.


FMOB

1,055 posts

14 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Beati Dogu said:
It's said that the 1997 takeover of McDonnell Douglas did for them. Boeing used to be run by engineers and made many fine aircraft and rockets. Now they're run by MBAs who only care for the bottom line.
Sadly it has done a few passengers as well. Hope those MBA's are enjoying all the red ink appearing on the bottom line.

MartG

Original Poster:

20,730 posts

206 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Amazing how many companies enter a downward spiral after they get an accountant in charge frown

Beati Dogu

8,930 posts

141 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Saturday, 1st June is the earliest target date now. (2024 tongue out)

12.25 pm Florida time / 5.25 pm UK time.

Alternative opportunities exist on the Sunday, Wednesday and Thursday.

Eric Mc

122,195 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd May
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MartG said:
Amazing how many companies enter a downward spiral after they get an accountant in charge frown
Not so much accountants as directors deciding that share value is all that matters.

Southwest Airlines is one of the most successful airlines in US history-and it was founded by an accountant.

Management culture is what determines how an entity performs and survives. Setting the right priorities is what matters.

Beati Dogu

8,930 posts

141 months

Friday 24th May
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Funnily enough, in 2005 Elon Musk said that they wanted SpaceX to be kinda like the Southwest Airlines of the space business.



Within a minute or two of where this video starts.


I can really see that now.

MartG

Original Poster:

20,730 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th May
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They also said the 737 Max was safe to fly...

https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/05/24/nasa-says-bo...

...and from the NASA side, they also said Challenger was good to go frown

Hill92

4,266 posts

192 months

Monday 27th May
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Chris Hadfield post on Instagram highlighting that the two CFT astronauts have now been in pre launch quarantine for over a month.

https://www.space.com/boeing-starliner-1st-astrona...

Beati Dogu

8,930 posts

141 months

Monday 27th May
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Must be boring & frustrating for them. It's already 5 years late and they've both been attached to the Starliner test program for most of that.

"Boeing engineers traced the leak to a flange on a single reaction control system thruster in one of four doghouse-shaped propulsion pods on the Starliner service module."

Seems the Helium leak has been classed as an acceptable risk and launch is still on for 1st June. To properly fix it, they'd have to remove the capsule and take it apart. So it'd probably be August before they could try again. At least they can stand down the crew if that happens.

The capsule isn't going to be docked to the ISS for long anyway. Only 8 days probably. If things deteriorate up there, you might see the crew come back down in a Dragon Capsule for added Boeing humiliation.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/05/nasa-and-boe...


The Russians have a Soyuz / Progress resupply launch due on 30th May and that's expect to dock to the ISS on 1st June at 12:53 pm UK time.

PositronicRay

27,116 posts

185 months

Yesterday (17:32)
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Looks like it's broken again.

Wouldn't trust Boeing to scratch ma arse. Isn't this just a massive corporate wk fest? Mrs PR reckons the astronauts are sabotaging it.

StephenP

1,889 posts

212 months

Yesterday (17:38)
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That's a shame, looked like it might be going this time.

It must be a big anti-climax when you're sat on top of the rocket, less than 4 minutes from launch and looking like you're finally going.... and then it gets scrubbed.

Arrivalist

48 posts

1 month

Yesterday (17:39)
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Maybe the laptop wasn’t the only thing out of sync!

skeeterm5

3,392 posts

190 months

Yesterday (17:41)
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They shouldn’t have done the whole proud to be American and look what we can achieve speech before they actually launched.

Sad to see it scrubbed, I wonder if Musk is having a quiet laugh to himself?